Conservtaive MP - Being broughto book by a Constituent
Posted by Michael Lynch on April 15, 2019, 2:43 pm
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Geoff Neden is a member of Ludlow Conservatives and Philip Dunne is his MP.
See below exchange of emails, which have been made public.
From: Geoff Neden [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: 13 April 2019 13:43
To: 'DUNNE, Philip'
Thank you for your message.
I think you sum up the present mess when you say that “our present predicament….is the … consequence of the voting behaviour of those who could have delivered Brexit”.
If you look at the attached list of voting in Constituencies at the last General Election, you will see that a total of 406 Constituencies voted to Leave whereas 486 MP’s support Remain.
The problem lies squarely with those MP’s whose Constituencies voted to Leave yet who are doing all they can to stop Brexit.
You are saying that the ERG are at fault. I cannot agree. They are the only MP’s with integrity. The Withdrawal Agreement is no such thing – it is a Remain For Ever Agreement. Those who hold out for a no deal are as you say “not reflecting the reality of the parliamentary position”. That might be true but if it is, it should not be as the Leave Vote was taken with no caveat about there having to be a deal first.
I do however strongly agree with you about the problems of PR voting.
We now seem to be in an Alice in Wonderland situation because although none of the current options are feasible for reasons shown below, the EU have granted a 6 month extension – to do what??.
1) Option 1 Leave with a deal
The UK Parliament and the EU say they want to leave with a deal
The UK Parliament will not pass the present deal but conceivably might do if it were amended to remove the worst part ie the Irish Backstop.
The EU say they will not renegotiate the deal.
There is thus no way we can leave with this deal.
There is insufficient time to start again with negotiations for a new deal and anyway no guarantee that if this were tried, the EU would agree to anything different which might gain acceptance by the UK Parliament.
Hence we will not leave with a deal
2) Option 2 Leave with no deal
The EU don’t want this to happen although they say they could live with it if they had to.
The UK Parliament have shown that they will not allow this to happen.
Hence we will not leave with no deal
3) Option 3 Negotiate with Labour
What does the Government expect to get from its talks with Labour? Presumably, as they cannot change the deal itself, they hope to get Labour to support the deal by giving way to them on previous red lines such as a Customs Union in the Political Declaration. This Declaration is not legally binding and a future Government is not bound by its terms. Both sides here and the EU know that so it seems to me to be pointless and Labour, for all its faults is surely not that stupid. Is there something more sinister at foot such as making the Political Declaration binding?
4) Option 4 Stay in
The death of democracy in the UK and a death knell for the Conservative Party.
One thing you do not mention is the leadership of the Conservative Party. Mrs May has been a disaster for the Party and for the Country. She should be kicked out without delay and I hope that your Local Association will sign the Petition to change Section 9 of the Conservative Party Constitution do this.
Have a good Easter
From: DUNNE, Philip
Sent: 12 April 2019 19:10
I write with a further update of my thoughts on recent Brexit developments since my previous message.
It has been a further frustrating fortnight for those of us in Parliament, widely shared across the country, as the House of Commons continues to be unable to agree on what it is for, rather than what it is against.
For my part, I have voted consistently to deliver Brexit through the Withdrawal Agreement, the essential first step to get us out of the EU. I voted against Parliament taking control of the Commons agenda from the Government, since this was a vast departure from constitutional norms and sets a worrying precedent for future minority governments.
I also voted against the Bill to give the House of Commons power to instruct the Prime Minister to ask the European Council for an extension to Article 50 in the absence of an exit deal from the EU, and then abstained on all amendments to this Bill from the House of Lords. But once this Bill had passed and became law it was clear the Prime Minister needed parliamentary support to give her some credibility when she travelled to Brussels this Wednesday to ask for an extension, so I reluctantly supported extension to 30th June.
The EU has now granted the UK an extension of membership until 31st October, though this would end if and when Parliament agrees to the Withdrawal Agreement. I know there is a great deal of frustration in the country at large – which I share – that Brexit has not been delivered on time. But I am clear our present predicament is the ironic consequence of the voting behaviour of those who could have delivered Brexit.
The most ardent supporters of Brexit across the House have failed to recognise the parliamentary arithmetic, and have allowed the perfect to become the enemy of the good. Had they supported the Withdrawal Agreement, we would now be outside of the EU, continue to have frictionless trade with the EU while moving forward in negotiating our future relationship.
It has been tested beyond doubt that a majority of MPs in Parliament (comprised of most Labour, all LibDems and SNP, most Independents and a few Conservatives) will prevent a No Deal Brexit. So those who continue to hold out for leaving with No Deal are not reflecting the reality of the Parliamentary position.
Given the impasse, the Government opened discussions with Labour to see if there are any areas of agreement for them to support the Withdrawal Agreement. Despite voting overwhelmingly in support of Article 50, the Labour Party has since sought at every opportunity to frustrate Brexit, so I do not expect any constructive change in their stance.
This Parliamentary stalemate is the reality of a government in minority rule. As a side issue, this shows why for me moving to a proportional representation system would be a terrible idea for effective governance of this country – as such stalemates would become the norm, and small groups with extreme views may end up determining outcomes.
Parliament is now in recess until 23rd April, which allows all my colleagues to get away from the pressure-cooker mentality of Westminster at the moment, and I hope will encourage some to return more willing to reach agreement.
For me, recess is a welcome opportunity to come home to Shropshire, and to catch up with what else is going on locally, not least since regrettably several planned meetings and events had to be postponed, due to Parliament unexpectedly sitting this week.
On Monday I have organised a Jobs Fair at the Community Centre in Low Town in Bridgnorth where over 20 employers and training providers are attending with vacancies to fill. Please alert anyone you think might be interested.
I shall look to provide a further update as and when things develop. In the meantime, I hope you have pleasant Easter.
Rt Hon Philip Dunne MP
Member of Parliament for Ludlow