My wife grew up in Solano County

Posted by Sounder on May 1, 2024, 12:21:52, in reply to "RELATED: I'm really curious about California Forever project*"

so I've known about this for a while, with the mystery behind it. I find it absolutely fascinating. If they pull it off, and I think they actually will, it could be pretty amazing. As you know, a big problem with American infrastructure is that it was build for an auto dependent society that doesn't necessarily reflect the future. This is a rare chance to do it from scratch. Previous Message Previous Message return to the office 3 days a week. The logistics behind that are pretty insane for almost everyone involved. The pushback from the employees you can imagine is loud but also seems to be basically shouting at the clouds at this point. We have been told nonsensical corporate buzzwords like collaboration and culture of creativity etc etc. The only thing that makes any sense to me at all about the decision has to be some form of corporate tax break from some municipality somewhere. In a case of corporate greed trumping employee happiness. Does that make sense and have others seen that reasoning?

Weird argument coming from a conservative.

Posted by DT on May 1, 2024, 12:30:33, in reply to "good, work from home is a net negative for society*"

The entire conservative movement since 1964 is premised on the idea that arguments based on group or communal good are fundamentally illegitimate. Previous Message *

I prefer the office as well but realize that doesn't jive with every type of lifestyle or

Posted by Warrin'_Illini on May 1, 2024, 12:26:27, in reply to "I enjoy working from the office"

profession. But when the hammer comes down from above and you "have" to change, that does indeed suck. This was especially true when I lived in LA and employers wanted everyone back after COVID. The long commutes that some had to go back to was insane. I'll never live more than 15-20 minutes from my office if I can help it. Previous Message I'd love to go down to 2 or 3 days a week, but I personally need to socialize with people. I get more done when I'm at work, but I also socialize a lot more at work, too. Let me cook.

I feel like I socialize enough in my personal life I don't need the office interactions.

Posted by DiamondDazzle on May 1, 2024, 11:59:46, in reply to "I enjoy working from the office"

Previous Message I'd love to go down to 2 or 3 days a week, but I personally need to socialize with people. I get more done when I'm at work, but I also socialize a lot more at work, too.

I love the idea of WFH, but it doesn't work for me socially

Posted by reggiedunlop on May 1, 2024, 11:52:40, in reply to "I enjoy working from the office"

Same. Have to do 3 days a week. Works perfect for me.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki on May 1, 2024, 11:45:00, in reply to "I enjoy working from the office"

I'd also love to go down 2 or 3 days a week*

Posted by Sammich on May 1, 2024, 11:19:03, in reply to "I enjoy working from the office"

While I prefer WFH, the day seems to go by faster when I'm in the office*

Posted by bjl63 on May 1, 2024, 11:16:04, in reply to "I enjoy working from the office"

Previous Message I'd love to go down to 2 or 3 days a week, but I personally need to socialize with people. I get more done when I'm at work, but I also socialize a lot more at work, too.

this is your catnip, what are you talking about?

Posted by VIV on May 1, 2024, 10:58:26, in reply to "This definitely needs a new thread"

it'd be like me complaining about more draft talk. Previous Message Previous Message return to the office 3 days a week. The logistics behind that are pretty insane for almost everyone involved. The pushback from the employees you can imagine is loud but also seems to be basically shouting at the clouds at this point. We have been told nonsensical corporate buzzwords like collaboration and culture of creativity etc etc. The only thing that makes any sense to me at all about the decision has to be some form of corporate tax break from some municipality somewhere. In a case of corporate greed trumping employee happiness. Does that make sense and have others seen that reasoning? "the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

that'll be no less ugly for the companies than it will be for the workers

Posted by Sammich on May 1, 2024, 11:14:12, in reply to "Americans better start valuing working in offices in America soon or companies "

If companies could save any money by outsourcing a job it would already be gone

Posted by DT on May 1, 2024, 11:12:08, in reply to "Americans better start valuing working in offices in America soon or companies "

Roger and Me was 35 years ago. 99% of companies would happily terminate their entire US workforce tomorrow if they could earn a single dollar more to provide as executive bonuses and dividends. Previous Message Will begin outsourcing labor at an aggressive rate very shortly. I know this is an unpopular opinion but it will be ugly for the long term American experience if people don't go back to work in offices Previous Message return to the office 3 days a week. The logistics behind that are pretty insane for almost everyone involved. The pushback from the employees you can imagine is loud but also seems to be basically shouting at the clouds at this point. We have been told nonsensical corporate buzzwords like collaboration and culture of creativity etc etc. The only thing that makes any sense to me at all about the decision has to be some form of corporate tax break from some municipality somewhere. In a case of corporate greed trumping employee happiness. Does that make sense and have others seen that reasoning?

And you aren't mentoring or teaching young workers much without frequent collaboration.

Posted by ghost_of_clt on May 1, 2024, 11:00:53, in reply to "Americans better start valuing working in offices in America soon or companies "

And I think you're (collective you) lying to yourself if you think Zoom and Teams are more than marginal replacements. Previous Message Will begin outsourcing labor at an aggressive rate very shortly. I know this is an unpopular opinion but it will be ugly for the long term American experience if people don't go back to work in offices Previous Message return to the office 3 days a week. The logistics behind that are pretty insane for almost everyone involved. The pushback from the employees you can imagine is loud but also seems to be basically shouting at the clouds at this point. We have been told nonsensical corporate buzzwords like collaboration and culture of creativity etc etc. The only thing that makes any sense to me at all about the decision has to be some form of corporate tax break from some municipality somewhere. In a case of corporate greed trumping employee happiness. Does that make sense and have others seen that reasoning? I am Haru of the Takagure dojo. Do not forget that.

You can say that again.*

Posted by gullit on May 1, 2024, 10:38:15, in reply to "Americans better start valuing working in offices in America soon or companies "

Previous Message Will begin outsourcing labor at an aggressive rate very shortly. I know this is an unpopular opinion but it will be ugly for the long term American experience if people don't go back to work in offices Previous Message return to the office 3 days a week. The logistics behind that are pretty insane for almost everyone involved. The pushback from the employees you can imagine is loud but also seems to be basically shouting at the clouds at this point. We have been told nonsensical corporate buzzwords like collaboration and culture of creativity etc etc. The only thing that makes any sense to me at all about the decision has to be some form of corporate tax break from some municipality somewhere. In a case of corporate greed trumping employee happiness. Does that make sense and have others seen that reasoning?