I guess all I'm saying is I think a lot of young kids listening to the Exploited or Charged GBH or DRI or something (I'm just thinking about myself at 12-13 years old; god knows what terrible crap the youngsters are listening to now) will inevitably turn to the Ramones... and be underwhelmed. it's a different mindset. I really do think that it's bubblegum music in a way, and 50s r'n'b/early rock is a big influence on their sound and delivery, whereas something like VU or Stooges would've only been influential in terms of their lyrical content. and the Ramones sure do sound pretty wimpy compared to a lot of punk that showed up later (even more so than the Pistols or Clash, who usually projected being p*ssed off in one way or another).
I still remember getting Rocket To Russia as my 1st Ramones CD and being nonplussed about it, especially getting to those cheesy crybaby love songs a couple tunes into it like Here Today, Gone Tomorrow and Locket Love.
for the record, the Ramones is a favorite band of mine over just about anything that could be categorized as punk (unless The Fall counts, and they're kind of their own weird thing). but I'm fond of them in the same way as I am of a very familiar Saturday morning cartoon... the same pleasing formula over and over, characters with lovable flaws, and so on.