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R&E Political Discussion - Spring 2026
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Destroying our country from within.

Posted by Spector on April 20, 2026, 12:49 pm

NEWS ALERT: An Iranian woman who lived a luxurious life and splashed it on her social media is now in custody after being arrested at LAX.
Investigators say Shamim Mafi, 44, brokered the sale of “drones, bombs, bomb fuses, and millions of rounds of ammunition” on behalf of the Iranian government.
She is expected to make her first court appearance today.

If only Trump had kept his promise and built the wall…but he was really busy.

Posted by CHE on April 20, 2026, 2:35 pm, in reply to "Destroying our country from within. "

😂

You mean after Biden let 15 million unvetted criminals come in?

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 20, 2026, 5:11 pm, in reply to "If only Trump had kept his promise and built the wall…but he was really busy."

Idiot.

America is full of terrorists. self-destruction brought on by

Posted by Spector on April 20, 2026, 3:11 pm, in reply to "If only Trump had kept his promise and built the wall…but he was really busy."

none other than the Democratic Party. Prepare for total destruction. The way these immigrants have behaved over the years a devastated America with blown-up cities will make them feel at home.

What party ruled the white house on 911

Posted by Lucky on April 20, 2026, 3:33 pm, in reply to "America is full of terrorists. self-destruction brought on by "

The truth really hurts these Trump Puppets

Dems approved Atta's pilot license.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 20, 2026, 5:13 pm, in reply to "What party ruled the white house on 911"

Take a look 3:34 ...

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 21, 2026, 10:32 am, in reply to "Dems approved Atta's pilot license."

Atta did NOT have pilot license

Posted by Otto Kleinberg on April 21, 2026, 6:08 am, in reply to "Dems approved Atta's pilot license."

Only took flying lessons during Bush/Cheney’s administration.

FBI agent notified Bush/Cheney administration but was ignored.

Get facts straight idiot !

Atta's pilot training & FAA license was in 2000

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 21, 2026, 1:55 pm, in reply to "Atta did NOT have pilot license"

This from 9/11 Commission Report and elsewhere:

December 19, 2000. Atta and Shehhi took their commercial pilot license tests at Huffman
Aviation, completing their schooling. Atta received a score of 93 in 116 minutes and
Shehhi received a score of 73 in 99 minutes.

Atta entered the United States on June 3, 2000. He and Shehhi soon enrolled in flight school in Venice, Florida. Atta spent six months earning his pilot's license in December 2000. (On Clinton's watch)

More on Atta's pilot license ...

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 21, 2026, 9:23 am, in reply to "Atta did NOT have pilot license"

Feeling silly yet?

9/11 Hijackers Trained at US Flight Schools
In the late 1990s and early 2000s, several of the 9/11 hijackers entered the United States legally and enrolled in civilian flight schools to learn how to fly commercial aircraft. Their flight training became a key element of the 2001 attacks.

Most of the planning and preparation was overseen by al-Qaeda operatives, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Osama bin Laden, who selected individuals with the ability to learn technical aviation skills. The group of hijackers known as the “pilot hijackers” — Mohamed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, Ziad Jarrah, and Hani Hanjour — arrived in the U.S. between 2000 and 2001 to take flight lessons.

Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi trained at Huffman Aviation in Venice, Florida, beginning in mid-2000. They obtained private pilot licenses and went on to rent small planes for additional practice flights.
Ziad Jarrah trained at Florida Flight Training Center, also in Venice, and earned a private pilot certificate.
Hani Hanjour, who had some earlier flight training in Arizona in the 1990s, re-enrolled in schools such as Arizona Aviation and JetTech to refresh his skills, though instructors later said his abilities were marginal. He nonetheless gained enough familiarity with cockpit controls to participate in the hijacking of American Airlines Flight 77.

The hijackers’ focus was not on takeoffs and landings but on controlling aircraft in flight, especially large commercial jets. Several of them used flight simulators and computer-based training to practice navigation and handling of Boeing aircraft. They paid for lessons with funds wired from abroad and maintained low profiles, taking advantage of lax visa and student-tracking systems at the time.
After the attacks, the FBI and 9/11 Commission traced their movements and discovered that U.S. flight schools had unknowingly trained several of the hijackers. The case led to major reforms, including tighter visa screening for flight students, background checks, and closer coordination between immigration and aviation authorities.
Main Pilot Hijackers and Their Flight Training
1. Mohamed Atta (Egypt) & Marwan al-Shehhi (United Arab Emirates)
Huffman Aviation – Venice, Florida
Enrolled in July 2000; trained on single-engine and multi-engine aircraft.
Both earned private pilot licenses and later commercial licenses.
Florida Flight Training Center – Venice, Florida (briefly)
Atta also took lessons here early in his stay before committing to Huffman Aviation.
Simulators
Both used Pan Am International Flight Academy – Miami, Florida – to practice on Boeing 727 simulators.
They logged time in large-aircraft simulators to learn cockpit procedures.
2. Ziad Jarrah (Lebanon)
Florida Flight Training Center – Venice, Florida
Began training in June 2000 and earned a private pilot certificate by August.
Also took refresher lessons in early 2001 in Maryland and New Jersey to keep up his skills.
Jarrah often rented small planes from local Florida airfields for solo practice.
3. Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabia)
CRM Airline Training Center – Scottsdale, Arizona (1996–1998 and again in 2001)
Completed private pilot training before moving to more advanced classes.
Arizona Aviation / JetTech – Phoenix area
Instructors reported Hanjour had limited proficiency, particularly in English and aircraft control.
Air Fleet Training Systems – Teterboro, New Jersey
In 2001, Hanjour and another hijacker rented small planes and practiced basic maneuvers.
Despite weak skills, he had enough familiarity with cockpit layouts to assist in commandeering American Airlines Flight 77.
4. Nawaf al-Hazmi & Khalid al-Mihdhar
Sorbi’s Flying Club – San Diego, California
Took a few lessons in 2000 but were not capable pilots.
Abandoned training after failing to make progress and shifted to assisting logistics for other hijackers.
Aftermath and Reforms
After the attacks, U.S. authorities discovered that multiple visa and intelligence lapses allowed the hijackers to train openly without triggering alerts. This led to:
The Alien Flight Student Program (AFSP), requiring background checks on all foreign nationals seeking flight training.
Greater coordination between the FAA, FBI, and INS (now DHS/ICE).
Tighter visa scrutiny for students from high-risk countries

Ummmmm ... so much for your research skills. You're wrong ...

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 21, 2026, 8:42 am, in reply to "Atta did NOT have pilot license"

His pilot license was issued in December 2000 on Clinton's watch.

Mohamed Atta, the lead hijacker in the September 11 attacks, obtained his instrument rating in November 2000 and his commercial pilot's license in December 2000. He trained at Huffman Aviation in Venice, Florida, specializing in single- and multi-engine aircraft, after entering the U.S. on a tourist visa.
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
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Key details regarding Atta's pilot training and licensing include:
Training Location: Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi trained at Huffman Aviation in Venice, Florida, arriving in June 2000.
Licenses Obtained: He earned his instrument rating and commercial pilot's license by December 2000. He also took training at the Florida Flight Training Center briefly.
Flight Simulator Training: Atta and other hijackers used Pan Am International Flight Academy in Miami to log hours on Boeing 727 simulators.
Visa Status: Despite requiring a student visa, Atta was accepted into flight school on a tourist visa. His change of status application was processed slowly and approved long after he started training.
Background: Atta had prior flight training experience and came to the U.S. with a private pilot certificate, enrolling for advanced training.
Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General (.gov)
Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General (.gov)
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Otto also professes an expertise in battery technology too, but...

Posted by Cheap Seats Shaman *= on April 21, 2026, 10:06 am, in reply to "Ummmmm ... so much for your research skills. You're wrong ..."

...when pressured about it, he implodes.

He also commits assault and battery on logic and reasoning ;)

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 21, 2026, 12:34 pm, in reply to "Otto also professes an expertise in battery technology too, but..."

Totally incapable of doing research. His mouth is quicker than his brain.

Yellow Dog to the core...

Posted by Cheap Seats Shaman *= on April 21, 2026, 2:15 pm, in reply to "He also commits assault and battery on logic and reasoning ;)"

...whose core lacks substance.

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