R&E Political Discussion 2026

R&E Political Discussion 2026
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These time honored words were authored by Thomas Jefferson.

Posted by Arwen on July 3, 2026, 7:10 am

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

We are created equal.

We have inalienable rights by virtue of being human.

These words are just as important today as they were 250 years ago.

Re: These time honored words were authored by Thomas Jefferson.

Posted by Jacques Koph on July 3, 2026, 9:24 am, in reply to "These time honored words were authored by Thomas Jefferson."

Is it not true that a certain level of annual income,
like a billion dollars, or a trillion dollars, can make
one believe they are above most of the laws that
apply to most of the people living in America, or
even have pay their fair share of taxes?

Yes.

Posted by Arwen on July 3, 2026, 9:50 am, in reply to "Re: These time honored words were authored by Thomas Jefferson."

It is not true.

The founding generation understood the importance of history. They knew unchecked power resulted in tyranny. They also knew that tyranny resulted the suppression of freedom and destruction of a nation. It was through their study of history and recognition of tyranny that they forged ahead and build a republic founded on the bedrock principle of liberty.

In doing so, they left us with a blueprint of how we ought to consider the future of our nation.

Re: Yes.

Posted by Tom on July 3, 2026, 1:14 pm, in reply to "Yes."

Of course: Slavery was a dominant feature of the antebellum South, but it was also pervasive in the pre-Civil War North the New England states of Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island all have a history of slavery. In the early colonial period, Europeans invaded these lands and enslaved the Native people who lived there.

As New England colonists drove Native nations out of their homes, they replaced these enslaved Native people with enslaved Africans and invested heavily in the slave trade to power their economy.

Rhode Island addressed its history of slavery on June 22, 2020 when Governor Gina Raimondo announced that the state official name Rhode Island and Providence Plantations would no longer appear on state documents. Instead, the state will just identify itself as Rhode Island.

We are all created equal.

Posted by Arwen on July 3, 2026, 3:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Yes."

This is clearly one of our founding principles.

History is full of cases in which our Founders themselves failed to live up to their own promises. Some of the Declaration’s authors who wrote that "all men are created equal," themselves owned slaves.

That doesn’t prove that America is evil. It shows that even the Founders failed to live up to their own ambitious ideals, initially. Lincoln led the effort to eliminate slavery, thereby fulfilling the timeless ideal penned by the Founders that all people are created equal and have the inalienable right to be free.

Racism is virtually nonexistent in America today. Oh, sure occasionally racism rears its ugly head. We even have a poster here, Mike Scalise from New Jersey, who uses derogatory terms to describe black Americans. He is quickly called out for it and slithers away in shame for a period hoping people will forget about it.

But we don’t.

And don't forget the indentured servants.

Posted by Allah Fubar *= on July 3, 2026, 2:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Yes."

They were generally White, you know...

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