believers who embrace Christ and all of his messages of salvation, faith, and security.

It is more-so the BIG MOUTHS on social media who jaw on and on about "their faith" and what's wrong with you and your thoughts who are as you've described. Even amongst them, there are still "true believers" who simply suck at trying to bring outsiders into "the fold" by behaving in truly sh*tty ways that most are offended by because they think that THEY are special and RIGHT and everyone else is grossly mistaken and at risk of eternal damnation.

I was brought up by solid Christians whose beliefs including SHOWING why life was better as a believer. By LIVING their beliefs that showed calm and reassurance in Christ even in the worst of circumstances so that they were like "lights in the darkness". By being a light in the mutual darkness, others wanted to know what they had that allowed them to be unworried and confident that they'd be fine no matter what happened. NOT that all would work out for the (human version) of good, but that no matter the circumstances, their faith would sustain them.

Those are the Christians whom I know in REAL life and there are hundreds of them that I personally know.** They are NOTHING like the frauds who peddle their own versions on these and other boards where they use FEAR to motivate others to listen rather than example to cause others to want what they have.

**The problem that I have is that belief is non-volitional and I lost my belief in the Christian doctrine years ago. The stories are just absurd on multiple levels. The biggest being WHY God would have condemned his children to eternal damnation for being naive and fooled by the serpent HE put into the garden and KNEW would trick them.

THEN having to send "his son" to die for their sins so they could be forgiven instead of simply FORGIVING THEM for being the imperfect beings that HE created imperfectly!

It makes NO SENSE. If God is this "perfect, all loving being", then WHY is he so full of jealously, hatred, anger, retribution, and a complete inability to forgive even his OWN children without a blood sacrifice in the form of his own "perfect son/self"?

Our human fathers are certainly NOT perfect and often made mistakes, but how many of them would cast us out into the world, naked, alone, and at risk when we've screwed up, then demand that we make a blood sacrifice to be accepted back home again? Not many, that's for sure!

So, I'm an Agnostic. I don't believe nor disbelieve in God(s). I am open to one or more existing. I simply do NOT believe the Christian bible stories anymore for those and so many other reasons.

You could say that I'm open to any and all spiritual ideas and am inclined to believe that there is SOME form of greater being(s) out there. I just don't know who or what they might be or if they even know or care that we exist.