Posted by Skye on June 27, 2025, 9:30 am Valued Poster
Senator Patty Murray (D-Washington), ranking member of the Senate Appropriations Committee, posted this on Truth Social:
"GOP'S BIG UGLY BILL KICKS PEOPLE OFF HEALTH CARE AND FOOD ASSISTANCE. HOSPITALS WILL CLOSE. KIDS WITH DISABILITIES WILL LOSE CAREGIVERS. BIG WINNERS? BILLIONAIRES. TOTAL FRAUD! IT POLLS LIKE GARBAGE, BECAUSE IT IS," she wrote. "GOP SHOULD DROP IT!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER."
Boom
GOP trying to figure out how to pass it and keep their jobs
By now a sufficient number of Americans realize re election of the felon was a mistake. Representation unwilling to stand up against him and the BBB because the felon will threaten their primaries, fear losing their prestigius, powerful and high paying part time jobs with CEO pay, perks, and lifetime bennies.
We're all suffering and will suffer more. Who do we blame? Him, or those who elected him?
Both!
How do we fix it?
By voting their representation out of office, and electing representation who will impeach, try and convict the felon and return his ass to state and federal prosecition of crimes dropt because the shivering coward Mrrrick Garland couldn't be moved to investigate and prosecute with time as of the essence.
Fortunately Bragg and James at their state level got it right.
Double entendre Mike drop. Johnson and the voice amplification tool. Perfect!
You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
Now all we have to do is make sure that women know that they will need their birth certificate, marriage certificate, and a real ID or Passport in order to vote.
A friend just told me yesterday that her daughter recently lost her driver's license and went to get a new one. They told her she had to have a marriage certificate in order to get her new license. She told them she didn't have a marriage certificate but had a divorce document. They could not accept that. Had to be a marriage certificate to get her license. She told them she couldn't have gotten divorced if she hadn't been married!
Obama's "Military Spouses Residency Relief Act"
Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on June 27, 2025, 11:05 pm, in reply to "Ha!" ADMIN
That allows military spouses the right and ability to vote in their hometown election, just like their relocated, reassigned, or deployed significant others.
Some GOP want to control how "wives" vote and appear on course to require documented husband approval. like that champion of the military and neanderthalism, Tommy Tubberville. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
should require documented spousal approval for how they vote, it should be the other way around! The bastards.
One fun explanation for GOP accusation of dead voters voting for Democrats
Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on June 28, 2025, 1:06 pm, in reply to "If anyone...."
When you factor in the zeroes, then perhaps the average intelligence and IQ of the constituency is equal and balanced. Without the dead people, average Democrat voters support the 95-105 norm, whereas average GOP voters come in about 77-83. Add enough dead people, and the Democrat average could drop to balance that 77-83 average for Republicans.
One way GOP could raise their average score is to allow dometic animals to vote GOP. But you know, you can't force an animal to do something it doesn't want to do, and they may show that resistance when Trump is on the ballot. Even the wild asses of Borneo don't like him.You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
they will require men to have their birth certificate and citizenship papers with them when they vote? I’m pretty sure there are a lot of non-citizens who have driver’s licenses. Do they care about that?
Re: I wonder if….
Posted by jacque on June 30, 2025, 4:35 pm, in reply to "I wonder if…." Valued Poster
many states allow DL for non-citizens with proof of identity and other documentation of legal status and residential address but they are marked as non-federal use for IDs
But each state makes the rules for voter id and registration in their state.live long and prosper as best you can Jacque
Remember when you FIRST registered to vote?
Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on June 29, 2025, 10:54 am, in reply to "I wonder if…." ADMIN
You had to produce an ORIGINAL birth certificate to prove your citizenship. You had to provide a valid photo ID, like driver's license or state issued ID. You also had to provide several months of bank statements or utility bills to prove your residency.
If you move, your original ID material goes with. But you may have to provide bank statements and utility bills to establish and confirm residency.
Otherwise this registration documentation stays with you for life.
When these feckless republicans b!tch and moan about photo ID at the precinct / ballot box, they either forget, or bank on the general public not remembering when they had to provide that documentation when they FIRST registered.
In person, at your precinct, you must SIGN IN top vote. Your signature is right next to a copy of your original signature, which an election judge compares for verification.
Ballot envelopes by mail must be signed, and are compared with the original signature by a scantron machine that does it far faster and more accurately than a person. If a signature doesn't match, the envelope is rejected for human verification. Tbat may include inspection of the signatures, and contact with th voter to ensure the ballot is authentic.
No ballot is counted until verified.
I am sick to sicker arguing about this with.... republicans. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
I don't remember having to sign my name. I do remember having to recite my address. When I first registered to vote there several years ago, I had to sign my name, provide the photo ID and proof of residency, etc, BUT I think they had us sign on one of those electronic tablets that don't even look like your real signature. I also remember that at the time I first registered to vote here in MO, the driver's licenses were NOT the "real ID" ones. We did get a real ID license when we renewed it a few years ago, BUT they gave us an option NOT to spend the extra money on that and just give us the other one instead. THAT is what makes me wonder.....
^^vv Once you register, ^^vv you're good to go ^^vv
From then on each state and sometimes precinct has its own procedure. Sign, not to sign... they do somethhing. It depends on size of the precinct and stability of the population.
There is a problem with some New York. Michigan and Pennsylvania districts where electronic voting turned up some significant irregularities, like Biden receiving zero votes in some precincts and districts. However the felon DoJ is not very interested becaue... of course... it appears to involve electronic cheating that has musk fingerprints on it. It is under investigation. But LIS, thr trump team isn't too concerned or in a hurry. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
We don't have to sign in to vote in NH once already registered. no signature verifications. we have
to produce a valid ID and a matched name on the list of registered voters.
However, to first register, we needed a gazillion documents proving citizenship and primary residency. NH notifies your previous state that you are now registered in a NH city or town as well as your previous NH town if you move in-state.
Every state varies on local requirements and procedures, but I believe that initial registrations are nearly identical in having to prove CITIZENSHIP.
So your point stands. Nowhere just takes your word for citizenship.
This bill is not only grotesquely misnamed, it's a human tragedy waiting to happen.-greenman
There is much more, of course, in that BIG bill....
Posted by Skye on June 27, 2025, 10:36 am, in reply to "She's exactly right." Valued Poster
that they are hoping will fly under the radar, and that's why they are pushing for it to be passed by the 4th of July, before people can even learn about all the nefarious bits of it.
Even if they conceded on some of the more obvious points that are unpopular with the public... beware of what isn't even being talked about.
'What Are Republicans Thinking?': Richard Durbin Rails Against The GOP's 'Big Beautiful Bill' During Powerful Rant
Got this as another PDF from our cuz in Canada. I'm not sure where he gets this stuff because you don't see it floating around in the news here. And the good news is, I figured out how to copy and paste it. LOL
"Elizabeth MacDonough doesn't give fiery speeches on the Senate floor. She doesn't pound podiums, tweet clapbacks, or beg for airtime on cable news. Most people couldn't pick her out of a photo lineup. But this week, she did more to derail Donald Trump's legislative fever dream than any Democrat in Congress. With nothing but a binder, a brain, and a spine forged from 230 years of procedural precedent, she calmly gutted the "Big, Beautiful Bill" - and sent the Republican Party into a frothing, i n c a n d e s c e n t rage. Here's the part that should terrify the GOP: she's not even elected. She's the Senate Parliamentarian, the nonpartisan referee responsible for interpreting the arcane rulebook that governs the world's most dysfunctional deliberative body. She doesn't write laws. She doesn't vote. She doesn't grandstand. Her job is simple: enforce the rules, no matter who's in charge. And when Republicans tried to use reconciliation - a fast-track process meant for tweaking budgets - to shove through a far-right wishlist of land seizures, healthcare rollbacks, and anti- trans cruelty, she read the fine print and dropped the hammer. The "Big, Beautiful Bill" was supposed to be Trump's magnum opus: a tax-slashing, Medicaid-burning, land-devouring beast of a bill that would reshape America in his image. It included everything from selling off millions of acres of federal public land to states and private developers, to gutting Medicaid for low-income families, immigrants, and trans people, to defunding Planned Parenthood and hacking away at environmental protections like they were weeds in a billionaire's backyard. It was grotesque. It w a s rushed. And it w a s entirely dependent on sliding past Senate rules without a fight. Elizabeth MacDonough was the fight. She reviewed t h e bill's c o n t e n t s a n d ruled - piece by piece - that major provisions violated the Byrd Rule, which bars unrelated ideological junk from hitching a ride on budget bills. The land sell-off? Not budgetary. Out. The Medicaid provider tax cap? Out. The bans on gender-affirming care, immigrant coverage, and ACA subsidies? Out. The GOP was left holding a gutted husk, their legislative trophy reduced to a few tax cuts and a pile of r e d a c t e d d r e a m s . This wasn't sabotage. This was MacDonough doing her job - the job she's held since 2012, appointed under a Democratic majority, and respected by both parties until it became inconvenient. She is the Senate's quiet guardian of process, a civil servant who doesn't answer to polls, Super PACs, or social media mobs. Her loyalty is to the rules - even a s the people around her treat those rules like a hotel minibar. She doesn't flinch. She doesn't yield. She simply reads the law and applies it, with the precision of a scalpel and the force of a freight train. And oh, how the GOP hates her for it. Mike Lee, who tried to shove his public l a n d s fire s a l e into t h e bill like it w a s a foreclosure listing, is already scrambling to rewrite the language and sneak it back in. Trump, fuming from whatever taxpayer- funded golf course he's currently defiling, is screaming about "deep state rule tyrants." Senate Majority Leader John Thune is getting asked uncomfortable q u e s t i o n s a b o u t whether it's time t o "review" the Parliamentarian's role — a polite way of saying, " , "Can we fire her for being smarter than us?" Because that's the rub. They didn't lose b e c a u s e t h e D e m o c r a t s o u t m a n e u v e r e d them. They didn't lose because of public pressure or media backlash. They lost because a woman they barely understand said, quite plainly, "You can't do that." And when they asked why, she handed them the rulebook. And when they tried to argue, she pointed to precedent. And when they blustered, she didn't even blink. Elizabeth MacDonough has no political agenda. That's what makes her so dangerous to people who do. She exists o u t s i d e their theater. S h e a n s w e r s to n o party. And yet, she is currently one of the most powerful people in Washington - not because she makes the laws, but because s h e refuses to let anyone break them. So no, she didn't kill the Big, Beautiful Bill. The GOP killed it themselves — by trying to use budget procedure a s a battering ram for authoritarian fantasy. MacDonough simply told the truth. And in 2025, that might be the most radical thing anyone in government can do. Let the Republicans rant. Let them plot her removal. Let t h e m rewrite their monstrosities and try again. But remember this: when the bulldozers were revving, when the Medicaid cuts were inked, and when Trump's wrecking ball of a bill was barreling toward the American people - it wasn't a senator who stopped it. It wasn't a protest. It was a woman with a binder a n d a b a c k b o n e . We see you, Elizabeth. And we thank you"
'Deep State,' exactly
Posted by greenman on June 28, 2025, 11:08 am, in reply to "This just in... Priceless" Valued Poster
Anyone not on Trump's side is 'the enemy, the Deep State, Communists' and so forth.
RESIST!-greenman
Well done. we saw her do exactly the same to Dems when they were in charge. it's not partisan, it is
on June 27, 2025, 9:30 am
