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More disgusting crimes in Israel Posted by greenman on July 31, 2025, 5:28 pm I support worldwide sanctions on them. They are not civilized beings. A hospital director told the BBC that more than 50 Palestinians were killed and 400 others injured while waiting for food near a crossing in northern Gaza on Wednesday. Footage showed casualties from the incident near the Zikim crossing being taken on carts to al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City. Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence agency said Israeli forces fired at the crowds gathered around aid lorries. The Israeli military said troops fired "warning shots" but that it was "not aware of any casualties". Israeli officials have threatened that if there is no progress in the coming days on a ceasefire and hostage release deal, then they may take new punitive steps against Hamas. Israeli media reported that those could include annexing parts of Gaza. Shortly after his envoy's arrival in Israel, US President Donald Trump wrote on social media: "The fastest way to end the Humanitarian Crises in Gaza is for Hamas to SURRENDER AND RELEASE THE HOSTAGES!!!" and also.. A hospital director told the BBC that more than 50 Palestinians were killed and 400 others injured while waiting for food near a crossing in northern Gaza on Wednesday. Footage showed casualties from the incident near the Zikim crossing being taken on carts to al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City. Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence agency said Israeli forces fired at the crowds gathered around aid lorries. The Israeli military said troops fired "warning shots" but that it was "not aware of any casualties". Israeli officials have threatened that if there is no progress in the coming days on a ceasefire and hostage release deal, then they may take new punitive steps against Hamas. Israeli media reported that those could include annexing parts of Gaza. There's the real end-game. Likud has ALWAYS wanted all mod 'greater Israel' to be theirs. They have ALWAYS hated Palestinian Arabs, and want all of the land they believe that their fake God gave them. This is what happens when you let STUPID SUPERSTITION rule the world. -greenman

Much of the Hamas propaganda is reported as fact. Hamas commandeers all the food Posted by TW on August 1, 2025, 5:30 pm, in reply to "More disgusting crimes in Israel" Valued Poster it can and then sells it to the people of Gaza. Hamas enjoys the fact that people are starving because it bolsters their propaganda efforts. https://www.cfr.org/blog/meanwhile-hamas-killing-civilians-who-seek-food https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/07/hamas-wants-famine/683724/ https://honestreporting.com/starvation-in-gaza-the-truth-behind-the-headlines/ Many major news outlets fell for this BS: https://www.bizpacreview.com/2025/07/30/nyt-forced-to-admit-story-about-starving-gaza-child-was-a-hoax-1571910/

Re: Much of the Hamas propaganda is reported as fact. Hamas commandeers all the food Posted by jacque on August 3, 2025, 3:21 am, in reply to "Much of the Hamas propaganda is reported as fact. Hamas commandeers all the food" Valued Poster There is no doubt Israel is restricting aid. There is no doubt Hamas is controlling distribution when it can. There is no doubt that most Americans take issue with how American dollars are spent to 'defend' Israel and 'feed' Palestinians simultaneously. There is no doubt a select few are profiting. There is no doubt many get exploited, injured, disabled, die and most of the disingenuous will forget about it and dismiss it easily because some part of it never effected them directly. Do you have a real direct personal connection to this issue? B-)_~ live long and prosper as best you can Jacque

I prefer a civilized society to an uncivilized. Hamas is about as uncivilized as it gets. Posted by TW on August 4, 2025, 8:42 am, in reply to "Re: Much of the Hamas propaganda is reported as fact. Hamas commandeers all the food" Valued Poster

Hamas is bad; Israel is worse. Posted by greenman on August 4, 2025, 9:45 am, in reply to "I prefer a civilized society to an uncivilized. Hamas is about as uncivilized as it gets." Valued Poster Hamas didn't move Palestinians into Jewish areas elsewhere in the world, take them over, and oppress their people. Israel did that. -greenman

You want to make it about Hamas, not Israel. Posted by greenman on August 1, 2025, 9:06 pm, in reply to "Much of the Hamas propaganda is reported as fact. Hamas commandeers all the food" Valued Poster And the pro-Zionist media makes it easier. You are a scoundrel. -greenman

Oh, I see. So the Israeli propaganda is THE truth, while everything accusing Israel is false Hamas Posted by Sia on August 1, 2025, 8:23 pm, in reply to "Much of the Hamas propaganda is reported as fact. Hamas commandeers all the food" ADMIN propaganda? OoooooKay...

Israel goes the extra mile to protect innocent life. Posted by TW on August 4, 2025, 9:26 am, in reply to "Oh, I see. So the Israeli propaganda is THE truth, while everything accusing Israel is false Hamas " Valued Poster I have heard and read this from numerous sources. I have not heard anyone say it doesn't happen. I have read that the system is not perfect or that it always delivers perfect results. The mere fact that they issue warnings is above and beyond what one could reasonably expect in a time of war, when the enemy utilizes its civilian population as human shields and oppresses them for propaganda purposes. You can safely bet large sums of money that anything that originates from Hamas is a pack of lies. Anyone that chooses to believe what Hamas states without reliable verification needs to have their heads examined. They have lied about anything and everything from day one. As long as you're lying to infidels, it is a righteous practice in their view, and much of the world continues to believe their lies. As I pointed out in a previous post, with the "starving child" and even way back when one of their own errant missiles exploded in the vicinity of their own hospitals. As part of its efforts to minimize civilian casualties in Gaza, the IDF makes phone calls and sends text messages to civilians residing in buildings designated for attack. In the following video, you can hear a recording of an IDF soldier calling a Gazan to warn him of an impending airstrike in his vicinity. The Israel Air Force has dropped leaflets over Gaza that warn civilians to avoid being present in the vicinity of Hamas operatives. These leaflets urge civilians to move away from Hamas targets, making clear Israel’s intention to minimize civilian casualties. Since the operation began, Hamas has repeatedly instructed Palestinians to ignore these warnings. “Roof knocking” is when the IAF targets a building with a loud but non-lethal bomb that warns civilians that they are in the vicinity of a weapons cache or other target. This method is used to allow all residents to leave the area before the IDF targets the site with live ammunition. Source: https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/the-hamas-terrorist-organization/how-is-the-idf-minimizing-harm-to-civilians-in-gaza/ It is war, people. It is not a process without death, destruction, and ugliness. BTW, Hamas starves its hostages. Even keeping them at this point is an barbarous act. Which is par for the course for all the actions of Hamas. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crr2dwn7q40o Hamas and their ilk would come here and do the same to you if they were ever successful in taking over the Middle East. The Islamic nuts are already making great headway in Europe. What is discussed here is happening in more places than just Italy.

Oh puhleeze! Posted by Sia on August 4, 2025, 11:56 am, in reply to "Israel goes the extra mile to protect innocent life. " ADMIN

That's a lie. Posted by greenman on August 4, 2025, 9:37 am, in reply to "Israel goes the extra mile to protect innocent life. " Valued Poster -greenman

That's the Rightie, pro-Israel take Posted by greenman on August 2, 2025, 8:02 am, in reply to "Oh, I see. So the Israeli propaganda is THE truth, while everything accusing Israel is false Hamas " Valued Poster Of course even as they gripe about 'Hamas statistics,' they never have any of their own. Why? Because Israel doesn't want to own up to their crimes.. -greenman

It comes down to "who do you believe". Frankly, I believe NEITHER of them. I believe the Posted by Sia on August 2, 2025, 10:07 am, in reply to "That's the Rightie, pro-Israel take" ADMIN independent press and the people in Gaza who are being systematically starved.

There's very little in the way of an "independent" press. Posted by TW on August 4, 2025, 8:41 am, in reply to "It comes down to "who do you believe". Frankly, I believe NEITHER of them. I believe the" Valued Poster Most press these days are heavily politicized.

Reuters and the AP are major independent press. Posted by Sia on August 4, 2025, 11:58 am, in reply to "There's very little in the way of an "independent" press." ADMIN They report straight news, no slant. No politics.

There is corporate media and Rightist media Posted by greenman on August 4, 2025, 9:43 am, in reply to "There's very little in the way of an "independent" press." Valued Poster NPR is independent, but Righties like you hate them and seek to defund them, calling them 'leftist.' Your perennial whine for 'unbiased media' hasn't fooled anyone in decades. -greenman

Israel is a criminal country! Posted by Sia on July 31, 2025, 9:45 pm, in reply to "More disgusting crimes in Israel" ADMIN

I feel bad for the Jews - even the Zionists - who oppose Bibi Posted by greenman on August 1, 2025, 10:50 am, in reply to "Israel is a criminal country! " Netanyahu is a corrupt, murderous thug, heads an awful party AND government, and is enacting the ethnic cleansing Likud has always wanted. Many oppose him, and I support them. But they're caught in the middle. -greenman

Indeed! They are caught between a rock and a hard place, for sure. Posted by Sia on August 1, 2025, 12:18 pm, in reply to "I feel bad for the Jews - even the Zionists - who oppose Bibi" ADMIN Israel may claim to be a free democracy style country, but that is an illusion. If you challenge s corrupt leader, you will regret it sooner or later. Corruption like that infects an entire country, but especially its judiciary. We are seeing that HERE, in America with the current regime. So yeah, I feel sorry for those stuck in the middle with a corrupt regime such as Netanyahu's. (and our own right now)

Among those middle caught in a noman's land are the Palestinian Christians Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 2, 2025, 12:25 am, in reply to "Indeed! They are caught between a rock and a hard place, for sure. " ADMIN Arab Christians? Yup. Lot's of them, and the Net and Yahoo gov't doesn't distiguish or care. They feed the "TWs" lines of BS through the select media of the right. The Felon claimed he was a chosen one. In fact he said he IS the chosen one. That was bnck in the last presidency when he didn't know as much about religion as now. Some MAGA is slowly catching on. Seems like they can't handle the idea of 16 and 17 year old towel girls working for the Felon at Mar a Lago, stolen by Maxwell and Epstein for their spas with bennies. If Epstein was banging them, the felon was too, and it's all in the files from which the felon is trying to flee and shake loose at some safe distance. I still believe he has third stage syphilis. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

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