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DoJ removes study of Rightie violence from website Posted by greenman on September 17, 2025, 8:13 am Valued Poster Can't have the peasants reading the truth, now can they? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice-department-study-far-right-violence_n_68c9e82fe4b0e64fe309e223 The Justice Department has reportedly scrubbed a study that documented the frequency of far-right violence from its website, according to 404 Media. “The number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism,” the opening paragraph of the study reads. “Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives. Down the Memory Hole.. -greenman

it would be great if a group became a watchdog, compiling all these Posted by Trish on September 18, 2025, 4:17 pm, in reply to "DoJ removes study of Rightie violence from website" Admin things and posting them by date and time publically on the internet (after all, it's easily proven they WERE there before) Hell if I had the time, I would (or at least volunteer to help)

Disgraceful! America is crumbling. soon, we will have an official "Ministry of Truth" Posted by Sia on September 17, 2025, 12:26 pm, in reply to "DoJ removes study of Rightie violence from website" ADMIN

We've already had it! The mainstream media have been as good as Posted by TW on September 17, 2025, 1:08 pm, in reply to "Disgraceful! America is crumbling. soon, we will have an official "Ministry of Truth"" Valued Poster leftist state run and controlled information for decades. The DOJ went as far as labeling parents concerned about their kid's educations and gun owners as domestic terror threats. https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/us-house-judiciary-republicans-doj-labeled-dozens-of-parents-as-terrorist https://www.nssf.org/articles/declassified-report-shows-biden-admin-viewed-gun-owners-as-domestic-terror-threat/ Here's another fine example of LW "journalism". They always soften the stry and somehow try to justify it, when it left-wing inspired, and go to great length to maximize the condemnation when it is RW in nature. The Media Are Incapable of Covering Left-Wing Violence Why Are You Like This, Mainstream Media? ABC’s Matt Gutman on ABC News Live, Tuesday afternoon, after Utah law-enforcement officials formally announced the charges against the suspect in Charlie Kirk’s murder: It’s heartbreaking on so many levels, Kyra. Obviously, Charlie Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd of thousands of people who watched him getting shot through the neck, and essentially bleed out in front of them. And I think one of the things that the attorney here made a very fine point about is that a lot of these charges, seven charges, were aggravated because children were present. Children witnessed this! Children were put in harm’s way. And that is something that is aggravating here, and one of the reasons that this suspect, in addition to the alleged murder being political in nature, is facing the death penalty. They’re going for the death penalty. And then on the other hand, there is this duality of a very — a portrait of a very human person, a very human experience from this entire family. As you mentioned, the mother, who essentially discovered that it was her son who had done this, the kid who had got a 34 out of 36 on the ACTs, who had a 4.0 [grade point average], who got a full ride to college here. That that kid was the one who had allegedly perpetrated this, she had seen those pictures and identified him, essentially. And then those text messages. And I don’t think I’ve ever experienced a press conference in which we’ve read text messages that are A, so fulsome, so robust, so apparently, allegedly self-incriminating and yet, on the other hand, so touching — right? — with the suspect reaching out to his roommate, who was allegedly his boyfriend, who we understand, you know, you know, identified as male at birth, now identifies as female. And the terminology he used, he was trying to protect him. He kept calling him ‘my love.’ ‘My reason for doing this is to protect you,’ you know, but also asking him to delete the messages and not speak to law enforcement. So, there’s this, this heartbreaking duality that we’re seeing very tragically playing out.” (This is the complete transcript; the post on X by Curtis Houck skips over a few sentences, but I don’t think it changes the thrust of Gutman’s remarks.) This punk just pulled a Lee Harvey Oswald on a beloved young father of two little kids with a huge crowd watching, and you’re telling me about his ACT score and grade point average? How do you come away from this situation and one of your first thoughts is that this was some sort of “touching,” tragic, doomed romance? What, were you watching Romeo and Juliet last night? I’m about to go full Mugatu from Zoolander over here. “Doesn’t anyone else notice this? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!” More at the source: https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-media-are-incapable-of-covering-left-wing-violence/ Here's another highlighting the :The American Mainstream’s Tacit Acceptance of Left-Wing Violence: https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-american-mainstreams-tacit-acceptance-of-left-wing-violence/

Why do you keep pushing this propaganda? Posted by greenman on September 17, 2025, 1:41 pm, in reply to "We've already had it! The mainstream media have been as good as" Valued Poster Does Trump's regime pay you by the lie? You have ZERO credibility on this board, at this time. ps, bonehead - there is no 'Leftist media.' I only wish there were.. -greenman

A Lee Harvey Oswald on Kirk? Ummm that's a big issue here. Kirk wasn't POTUS, not even elected! Posted by Sia on September 17, 2025, 1:28 pm, in reply to "We've already had it! The mainstream media have been as good as" Yeah, he still mattered. Murder is simply WRONG. However, I have to ask what the outraged had to say about Melissa Hortman and her husband's murders (even their DOG was killed!)and the vicious attacks on her colleagues? Only 2 months ago?? Or the attacks on Governor Shapiro AND his family by burning down their home while they slept, earlier this year?? There is way too much selective outrage here! I didn't notice much outrage from the right when those happened, either mainstream or personal. In fact, sister boards were full of derision and laughter when Pelosi was brutally beaten and yawns about Melissa Hortman et al. trump had NOTHING to say! Contrary to that behavior, the majority of us here and all leading left leaders spoke out against murdering Kirk! trump has set the dogs loose and is going after anyone who dares speak against ANYTHING aligned right! He's given Kirk, a non veteran and unelected, a MILITARY escort and honors with his body transported on AF2!! He's being treated in death as if he was former POTUS Jimmy Carter, who trump only begrudgingly recognized at his state funeral. This is CRAP! Kirk should have never been murdered for his views, but neither should Melissa Hortman or her husband and dog!

Like a said, a lot of nuts are responsible for much of the mayhem. Posted by TW on September 17, 2025, 4:28 pm, in reply to "A Lee Harvey Oswald on Kirk? Ummm that's a big issue here. Kirk wasn't POTUS, not even elected!" Valued Poster Below is a bit more that caught my eye. Excerpt: And somebody out there decided to kill him over it. I know the right side of the American political spectrum has its share of yahoos — the guy who mailed pipe bombs to Trump critics, the PizzaGate conspiracy theory believer who fired an AR-15 inside the D.C. restaurant Comet Ping Pong. Abortion clinic bombers. Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh often gets inaccurately characterized as Christian extremist — he described himself as an agnostic — and while he was indisputably vehemently opposed to the federal government in a way that we usually define as “right wing,” he also believed the U.S. government had implanted a computer chip in his buttocks. I would note that a couple of examples that get cited or remembered as “right-wing violence” really were nothing of the sort. The man who shot Gabby Giffords was a paranoid schizophrenic who believed that grammar was a sinister form of mind control used by the government. The man who murdered the Minnesota House of Representatives speaker and her husband and shot a state senator and his wife earlier this year wrote in a letter addressed to FBI Director Kash Patel that Democratic Governor Tim Walz selected him to kill Democratic lawmakers, including Senators Tina Smith and Amy Klobuchar. Yesterday, I found myself thinking back to a (too) brief, small-scale controversy back in April, where CNN aired a prime-time special allegedly about “disinformation” and interviewed journalist Taylor Lorenz, in which she argued that Luigi Mangione, who shot UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in the back, is “a person that seems like this morally good man, which is hard to find.” She also swooned about the killer as “a man who’s revolutionary, who’s famous, who’s handsome, who is young, who’s smart.” (Today’s word of the day is “hybristophilia.”) Does it increase the odds of another case of left-wing violence when Lorenz says the man who shot another man in the back is “a morally good man”? Does it increase the odds of another case of left-wing violence when CNN’s interviewer Donie O’Sullivan just nods and smiles in seeming agreement, and doesn’t respond with, “What the hell are you talking about? This man’s a cold-blooded murderer, he’s not morally good!” Source: https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-american-mainstreams-tacit-acceptance-of-left-wing-violence/

Thanks for the opinion Posted by greenman on September 17, 2025, 5:29 pm, in reply to "Like a said, a lot of nuts are responsible for much of the mayhem." Valued Poster ..of the Nazionalsozialistische Review. -greenman

I saw a lot of facts stated in those paragraphs. Posted by TW on September 18, 2025, 11:30 am, in reply to "Thanks for the opinion " Valued Poster Do you have a problem with the facts?

You AGREED with a lot of things stated. Posted by greenman on September 18, 2025, 11:57 am, in reply to "I saw a lot of facts stated in those paragraphs." Valued Poster That doesn't make a single one a 'fact.' That seems to confuse you Righties.. -greenman

Hmmm? I've seen various news sources report everything said in that post. Posted by TW on September 18, 2025, 5:27 pm, in reply to "You AGREED with a lot of things stated." Valued Poster If they're lies, provide some proof that they are.

Hmmm? I've seen various news sources report everything said in that post. Posted by TW on September 18, 2025, 5:27 pm, in reply to "You AGREED with a lot of things stated." Valued Poster If they're lies, provide some proof that they are.

Sure you have. Posted by greenman on September 18, 2025, 7:35 pm, in reply to "Hmmm? I've seen various news sources report everything said in that post." Valued Poster -greenman

Remove the 'TU' Posted by greenman on September 17, 2025, 1:42 pm, in reply to "A Lee Harvey Oswald on Kirk? Ummm that's a big issue here. Kirk wasn't POTUS, not even elected!" Valued Poster ..and Kirk was only a POS. -greenman

Probably because it was heavily politcized BS. The nightly BLM and Antifa violence alone was Posted by TW on September 17, 2025, 11:19 am, in reply to "DoJ removes study of Rightie violence from website" Valued Poster enough to dwarf what maybe a handful of RWers have done. Too much of government has been way too politically slanted in at least the last 20 years. Trump was the intended victim of 2 assassination attempts. RWers? I hardly think so. Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a leftist radicalized kid. Additionally, in recent times, we've had 2 trans shooters kill kids at schools. Those 2 weren't conservatives. United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was killed by a leftist. And like Kirk, this was also celebrated by many on the left. The burning of Teslas and Tesla dealerships. I could go on and on.

There you go.... Posted by Skye on September 17, 2025, 1:59 pm, in reply to "Probably because it was heavily politcized BS. The nightly BLM and Antifa violence alone was" Valued Poster making assumptions not in evidence and ignoring many of the facts IN evidence, in your hypocritical haste to politicize and protect the biggest hypocrite of all in his efforts to dish out heavily politicized BS. The two latest acts of violence (Kirk and the school shooting in Colorado) were carried out by shooters who were more likely indoctrinated by extremists on the RIGHT, not the left.

You are sadly misinformed. Posted by TW on September 18, 2025, 5:25 pm, in reply to "There you go...." Valued Poster Kirk's shooter bought into the leftist drivel. It doesn't even make much sense that he was RWer or a MAGA type. He had to be somewhat mentally unstable himself having a romantic relationship with a male transitioning to a female. Too bad many on the left, like Kimmel, have lied about this. Telling us that it doesn’t matter when one side commits violence warps public policy, news coverage, and more. After Tuesday’s press conference by Utah County Attorney Jeffrey Gray laying out extensive excerpts from text messages that Charlie Kirk’s alleged killer sent to his transgender romantic partner, as well as other evidence collected in the investigation regarding his reasoning for deciding that “I had enough of his hatred,” progressive commentators are in a bind. Their collective push to deny that the killer acted out of left-leaning political motives has collapsed. Sure, they can still get gullible people who don’t read widely to buy that the assassin might have been a white-supremacist “groyper,” or just to focus on the fact that his family members were conservative, religious Republicans (as if young leftists aren’t often people angrily alienated from their families). But anybody who deals even glancingly in facts and evidence, and who ventures outside of the left-wing bubble, is going to know that it’s dishonest agitprop. Source: https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/09/why-it-matters-that-charlie-kirks-killer-came-from-the-left/ Desmond Holly killed himself and was obviously mentally disturbed. Granted he did buy into neo Nazi crap. Like I've said before, some of these killers have just been nuts. Nuts that sometime lean left or right depending on what day or month it is.

There you go again... quick to judge... asserting facts not in evidence. Posted by Skye on September 18, 2025, 8:25 pm, in reply to "You are sadly misinformed." Valued Poster Why am I not surprised? I have actually looked for evidence to see if Robinson was left or right oriented, or if he was radicalized in some way... and guess what? The investigators on the case have not been able to make any such conclusions. It has been established that he comes from a "maga" conservative family... but there is no evidence of his being indoctrinated or radicalized on-line or elsewhere. Perhaps he simply fell in love with his roommate who was transitioning from male to female? His only remark or reason given for his violent act was that he'd "had enough of his (Kirk's) hatred." Perhaps he wanted to do something to rebel against a disapproving family of his relationship with his lover? Or perhaps he didn't like the hate or disapproval he saw coming from them that he blamed on Kirk or people like him? Here's what I did find on the subject, just in case you are interested. "Prosecutors in Utah appear to be preparing to argue that 22-year-old Tyler Robinson killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Utah last week because he disagreed with Kirk's anti-trans rhetoric. In their charging document, authorities cite text messages that Robinson allegedly exchanged with "his lover/roommate," a person they describe as "a biological male who was transitioning genders." The document also includes another text in which Robinson allegedly explains that he killed Kirk because he had "had enough of his hatred." Utah files murder charges against Tyler Robinson The presumed motive has added fire to a rash of speculation by high-reach conservatives, who have suggested that this motive equated to a political ideology. The same day Kirk was killed, President Trump claimed the shooter was a "radical leftist." Others have suggested that the suspect may have been "groomed" by a "trans terror cell" and that he was perhaps working with larger groups, including "antifa." So far, these claims have not been supported by publicly released evidence. In fact, little is still known about Robinson's politics. According to the charging document, his mother told investigators that he had become more "pro-gay and trans-rights oriented" within the last year. It also includes a text message, allegedly written by Robinson, that said "since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga." But Robinson is not registered with a political party in Utah. There is no evidence of his positions on other issues of importance to the left, such as immigration or labor. The dearth of information about Robinson's political views has suggested to some researchers of online culture and shootings that there may not, in fact, be much more to Robinson's alleged violence than a single-issue grievance. They say that one particular piece of information shared in the charging document lends support to this theory...." https://www.npr.org/2025/09/18/nx-s1-5544446/charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-motive

This is all your side has. Posted by greenman on September 18, 2025, 7:36 pm, in reply to "You are sadly misinformed." Valued Poster 'His roommate was trans, ergo, he's a wild-eyed lefty.' Not actual evidence. And had he been a lefty? So what. -greenman

Let's go over this item by item. Posted by greenman on September 17, 2025, 1:59 pm, in reply to "Probably because it was heavily politcized BS. The nightly BLM and Antifa violence alone was" ...enough to dwarf what maybe a handful of RWers have done. --The post YOU ANSWERED proves that RW violence was more of a threat. It was scrubbed from a gov't website, as stated. You deny it without evidence. I reject your denial. Too much of government has been way too politically slanted in at least the last 20 years. --Blame yourself. You voted for Trump. Trump was the intended victim of 2 assassination attempts. RWers? I hardly think so. -- There's no evidence of a serious 'assassination attempt' on Trump. Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a leftist radicalized kid. -- Lie. Additionally, in recent times, we've had 2 trans shooters kill kids at schools. Those 2 weren't conservatives. --Two out of how many total? There's no evidence transgenders are prone to political violence. You've just been told to hate them. United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was killed by a leftist. And like Kirk, this was also celebrated by many on the left. -- I oppose assassination. Do you oppose assassinations of Dems in Minnesota? Again, the article shows your side to be more to blame. The burning of Teslas and Tesla dealerships. --A couple of foolish attacks brought on by the radical right actions of Elon Musk, Trump's temporary, unelected stalking horse. I could go on and on. --and doubtlessly you will. And likely without facts. -greenman

Just becasue YOU call something a lie.... Posted by TW on September 18, 2025, 5:33 pm, in reply to "Let's go over this item by item." Valued Poster it doesn't mean that it is. I try to post stuff that is factually accurate and that I've confirmed with multiple sources. For years, you've called stuff I've posted lies, and I've gone to the trouble to provide proof that they were not lies. You always seem to want the easy way out by shouting "lie". Why don't you spend a bit of time proving I have posted lies? I really don't think you can. You call them lies because you'd rather not believe the things I've posted.

You rarely provide 'proof' Posted by greenman on September 18, 2025, 7:38 pm, in reply to "Just becasue YOU call something a lie...." Valued Poster ..beyond 'Yes, I got this off of the Nazionalsozialistische Review.' More often it's 'I see this online all of the time...' lol -greenman

You left out so much, including the murders in MN, attacks on Pelosi Posted by Sia on September 17, 2025, 12:30 pm, in reply to "Probably because it was heavily politcized BS. The nightly BLM and Antifa violence alone was" ADMIN Attempted murder attacks on 2 Dem governors, and so on. At least acknowledge these RECENT attacks!

I've no problem acknowledging them. These days... Posted by TW on September 17, 2025, 12:39 pm, in reply to "You left out so much, including the murders in MN, attacks on Pelosi" many on the left attempt to "sanctify the attacks" as resistance. Also, in a number of instances, we all need to recognize that many of the people committing such acts are just plain wacko nuts. I guess it's probably easier to "radicalize" the mentally unstable. As in Pelosi's case: San Francisco police arrested DePape at the scene. He planned to take Speaker Nancy Pelosi hostage and interrogate her. Prosecutors believed the attack to be politically motivated. DePape, a Canadian immigrant to the United States, had a history of mental health issues and drug abuse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Paul_Pelosi

left, left, left, left, left...blah, blah blah. Posted by greenman on September 17, 2025, 1:43 pm, in reply to "I've no problem acknowledging them. These days..." Valued Poster You'd better pray you don't see any actual leftist violence, you Trump toady. -greenman

Challenge accepted. Posted by greenman on September 17, 2025, 5:43 pm, in reply to "left, left, left, left, left...blah, blah blah." Valued Poster We may be on either side of a battle line someday. Expect no mercy. -greenman

I will only be exercising my right to self-defense. Posted by TW on September 18, 2025, 11:32 am, in reply to "Challenge accepted." Valued Poster I won't be shooting anyone that is not coming after me or other innocent life.

I don't advocate shooting anyone. Posted by greenman on September 18, 2025, 11:59 am, in reply to "I will only be exercising my right to self-defense." Valued Poster But I will fight in a war against Fascism, should one break out. My father and uncles did; I will do no less. -greenman

They better hope I don't see them first. Posted by TW on September 17, 2025, 5:33 pm, in reply to "left, left, left, left, left...blah, blah blah." Valued Poster I've held a concealed carry permit for 20 years. While I don't always carry on my person, I always have one in my vehicle. Which reminds me, it has been a while since I've practiced shooting. Maintaining proficiency with a pistol takes regular practice.

Most who commit violence in the name of politics HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS Posted by Sia on September 17, 2025, 12:46 pm, in reply to "I've no problem acknowledging them. These days..." ADMIN Normal people don't resort to murder over political viewpoints. On either side.

Your post is entirely made up of lies Posted by greenman on September 17, 2025, 12:06 pm, in reply to "Probably because it was heavily politcized BS. The nightly BLM and Antifa violence alone was" ..and unsupported, Rightist drivel. But for the record I'm glad Kirk bought the farm. Get bent. -greenman

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