They remind me of a dumbass in-law. When you ask him about becoming a plumber, HVAC guy, electrician, truck driver or maybe a fast food manager he replies "I don't want to do that." so he is attending one or two classes a semester to become a mechanical engineer and he fails half of them. He already has a degree in business administration but he heard engineers make more money and he has already failed at several attempts to get into jobs in management. He grouses about how they won't hire him without experience but he refuses to start out as anything but a manager.
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