Is US involvement with Israel's war on Iran the starting of an endless war?
Posted by Austin Powerz on 6/21/2025, 20:35:07
Or are we be stopping one?
Well, since the involvement began with use of GBU-57s to take out Fordow, et al, unfortunately, the answer is neither.
We had already been in a forever war with Iran and have been since Iran invaded and occupied the US Embassy in Tehran in 1979 during Jimmy Carter(D)'s reign of error. Even if the attack has been wildly successful, the attack on Fordow is just a continuance of that endless war in hope that we can keep it from becoming catastrophic. But likely the immediate effect will be to awaken the sleeping death squads that Biden let across our then porous southern border.
In order to end the existing endless war we will need to pursue regime change following the Fordow attack.
Major Elements in the Endless War Started By Iran:
1979 U.S. Embassy takeover in Tehran was initiated by radical Iranian students, but it quickly gained the endorsement and support of Iran’s new revolutionary leadership, including Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. Here’s how the involvement unfolded: - Initial Action: On November 4, 1979, a group calling itself the Muslim Student Followers of the Imam’s Line stormed the U.S. Embassy and took 66 Americans hostage. Their stated goal was to protest the U.S. granting asylum to the deposed Shah of Iran. - Khomeini’s Endorsement: Within hours, Ayatollah Khomeini publicly backed the takeover, calling it a “revolutionary act.” His support transformed what began as a student-led protest into a state-sanctioned crisis. - Government Resignations: Iran’s moderate Prime Minister, Mehdi Bazargan, resigned in protest shortly after the embassy seizure, signaling that the revolutionary hardliners—not the provisional government—were now in control. - Long-Term Control: The hostage crisis lasted 444 days, and the students were effectively acting under the protection of the new Islamic Republic. Several of the hostage-takers later rose to senior positions in Iran’s military and political leadership, further underscoring the regime’s complicity.
So while the operation wasn’t formally ordered by the Iranian state at the outset, it was quickly embraced and institutionalized by the ruling clerical regime, making it a de facto act of state policy.
1980s: - 1980 assassination in Maryland: Iranian agents orchestrated the killing of dissident Ali Akbar Tabatabai on U.S. soil.
The Birth of Proxy Warfare - 1983 Beirut Barracks Bombing: Hezbollah, backed by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), killed 241 U.S. Marines in Lebanon—the deadliest attack on U.S. forces since WWII. - 1984–1988 Tanker War: Iran targeted U.S.-flagged oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, prompting U.S. naval escorts and culminating in Operation Praying Mantis (1988), where the U.S. Navy sank multiple Iranian vessels.
1990s: Covert Operations and Bombings - Iran supported assassinations of dissidents abroad, including US Supported former Prime Minister Shapour Bakhtiar in France (1991). - 1996 Khobar Towers Bombing: A truck bomb killed 19 U.S. Airmen in Saudi Arabia. U.S. intelligence linked the attack to Hezbollah al-Hejaz, an Iran-backed group.
2000s: Iraq War and the Rise of the Quds Force - 2003–2011 Iraq War: Iran’s Quds Force supplied explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) and training to Shiite militias, resulting in hundreds of U.S. troop deaths. - 2007: Iran was implicated in the abduction of former FBI agent Robert Levinson.
2010s: Cyberattacks and Regional Escalation - Cyber warfare: Iran launched DDoS attacks on U.S. banks and attempted to infiltrate infrastructure systems. - Proxy attacks in Iraq and Syria: Iran-backed militias like Kata’ib Hezbollah and Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq targeted U.S. bases with rockets and IEDs.
2020s: Drone Wars and Global Reach - 2020: After the U.S. killed Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani, Iran launched ballistic missiles at U.S. troops in Iraq, causing traumatic brain injuries. - 2021–2023: Over 80 drone and rocket attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria by Iran-backed militias. - 2022: A Quds Force member was indicted for plotting to assassinate former National Security Advisor John Bolton. - 2023: Iran proxy terrorist organization Hamas conducted a sneak attack against Israeli and US civilians in Israel. - 2024–2025: Renewed attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria amid the Israel-Iran conflict. Iran’s proxies have also threatened U.S. assets globally.
Iran’s Role in the October 7 Attack: - According to Israeli intelligence and military sources, Saeed Izadi, a senior commander in Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), was one of the key orchestrators of the attack. He reportedly coordinated military planning and logistics between the IRGC and Hamas. - Iranian officials have publicly contradicted their own denials. In April 2024, a senior Iranian political coalition acknowledged that IRGC commander Mohammad Reza Zahedi had a “strategic role” in the planning and execution of the October 7 assault. - Reports also indicate that Hamas held meetings with Iranian and Hezbollah officials in the months leading up to the attack, attempting to secure broader regional support.
Involvement with U.S. Hostages: - During the October 7 attack, Hamas took around 250 hostages, including American citizens. While Iran has not been directly linked to the capture or detention of U.S. hostages, its financial, military, and strategic support for Hamas raises questions about indirect responsibility. - As of mid-2025, some American hostages remain in captivity, and Iran has used its influence over Hamas and other proxies to shape negotiations—though it has not publicly acknowledged any role in hostage decisions.
While Iran may not have launched the October 7 attack itself, it appears to have played a critical enabling role—through training, funding, and strategic coordination. Its involvement in the hostage situation is more indirect, but still deeply entangled in the broader web of influence it maintains over Hamas and other militant groups
Then we haven't stopped the endless war Iran started after all.
Posted by Austin Powerz on 6/21/2025, 20:52:04, in reply to "NO"
But we may have prevented it from escalating to something catastrophic. That's clearly a good thing. But there is a lot more to do and by bombing Iran's nuclear sites we're now in for the duration.