Excellent point, Blacks in West Africa were forced to act or make decisions against their true will due to the use of force from the White powers. But Whites deny this compulsion, all they see or think of was that Blacks were "joyfully" selling each other to the Europeans, hahahaha!!
Indeed, I've said it before, Europeans did nothing but mimic the Arabs and the Ottomans(Turkish) on the Black slavery regardless of being themselves enslaved systematically by the Vikings. The
Ottomans were more into the Bulgarian
slaves(Eastern Europe). Other Whites like Irish were also sold by the English.
""""And, of course, the Palestinians and Middle Easterners were born into the disparaging cultural practices against Blacks, practices which were likely fostered from the Western indignant framing, of Blacks"""""""
I don't really agree with this, it seems that the Europeans learned how to get the Blacks for their slave trade from Arabs in general, and IRAQ is an absolute historical evidence for that. Where was America and the transatlantic slave trade in the 9th century?? DIDN'T EXIST!! But the Zanj(Black slaves) were transported to Iraq during the Abbasid Caliphate in the "9th century" to perform brutal, back-breaking labor. They were primarily used to drain the salt marshes, build canal systems, and cultivate agricultural lands in southern Iraq, particularly around Basra. There was no Mississippi and no Alabama in the 9th century, Les, but there was Basra in Iraq, Basra was the Louisiana of Arabs. There was a reason why it is recorded in the Muslim history books that Prophet Muhammad freed the Black slaves in that part of the world. Also check the Zanj revolution in Iraq, its worth reading. When Black ppl revolted in Iraq Christopher Columbus was not yet born and America was not yet discovered. LOL!!
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Well, TheOne, all this takes us back to the root of the problem, which is man's inhumanity to man. For some reason, once some people get a little money or prestige, on this planet, it goes to their heads.
And we can come-up with all kinds of excuses. I say, "Well, Blacks in West Africa were under coercion from the white powers, which forced them to acquiesce to the institution. After all, the W. African brand of exploiting other Black people had amounted to peonage, since those bonded to other Blacks could marry into the family, and graduate out of enslavement, in others."
The Portuguese and Spanish, meanwhile, mimicked their Ottoman (Turkey) enslavers, and Ottoman- Barbary Coast cohorts and were frankly practicing what they had experienced for centuries.
Now, the British, didn't enter the transatlantic slave trade until 200 years after the Spanish/Portuguese incursion, into the practice. Should we give the British a pass? After all, it was the Trump-type oligarch's, who flouted England's early aversion to the trade, and sold other whites to the Ottoman and Barbary Coast enslavers, which over time developed a slave-trading culture in what became Britain. After all, the English had been treated mercilessly by the Vikings, so slavery wasn't their thing.
Latin-America, meanwhile, enslaved Indians and Blacks. And over time there was so much mixing of Blacks and Latino's that many people, whom we call Latino's, are typically an admixture of Blacks and Hispanic.
And, of course, the Palestinians and Middle Easterners were born into the disparaging cultural practices against Blacks, practices which were likely fostered from the Western indignant framing, of Blacks, to rationalize their engagement in the trade.
And on this board, each of us is perched in a different place in the tree of life, so we will invariably see things differently. So we should agree to disagree without ad hominem attacks at each other.
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What I found "despicable" on this Afro-centric board is you are entitled to "historically" criticize only the Jewish involvement in the black slavery or criticize the European engagement in the Atlantic slave trade, or criticize the Israeli/Zionist racism against Ethiopian Jews, nothing else. Oooohh, wait, you also can peacefully criticize the Latino social bigotery and their racial history in their countries on this board.
And that "smart aleck" the other day said what if I stood up and say during a black lives matter protest that Black ppl sold each other to the White man during slavery in West AFrica. I say you are historically correct for pointing that out as long as you don't "support" the violent action of Derek Chauvin the White Minneapolis police officer who put his knee on the neck of George Floyd for about 9 minutes killing him in front of the world. But that still doesn't "cancel" your critique on Blacks selling other Blacks in the West coast of Africa to the English man in 17th century.
As you may have noticed, Les, I've criticized the Venezuelan black slavery and the prejudices Afro-Venezuelans face in Venezuela during a time when Trump was literally bommbing Venezuelan boats full of innocent immigrants. No action, complete silence, my critique on White Venezuelans was tolerated on this board!
I've also criticized Ukraine for its ill treatment of African immigrants before and during the heavy Russian bombardments on Ukraine(thousands dead around the country), no action, complete silence. Except the "smart aleck" on Ukraine replied to me and said, well, "whats happening in Ukraine is not a genocide", implying that you can talk crap about Ukrainians its not a problem, thats only a few Russian missiles, so its okay, just leave the Palestinian Black slavery alone, its not the right time. LOL, man, that sounded very crazy to me. It made me laugh LOL!! In fact it sounded like "dictatorship" to me. Kinda like shut up or else I'll put you in jail, hahaha, totally mixing up two different "entries", one is historical and the other is current/real-time informations.
Also when I condemned the Native-Americans for historically owning Black slaves in Oklahoma and thats despite the fact Native-Americans have been "genocided" long before, I believe the "smart aleck" should have told me the same thing to leave the Native-Americans alone on this subject since there is only "TWO" of them left alive in America today. No, he didn't say a word, he tolerated my historical Black slavery critique on Native-Americans. He kept quiet. LOL!!
Anyway, I do believe that the "smart aleck" and his pet were "biased" on the question of Palestinian slave trade as well as the question of White Palestinian social bigotry towards the Afro-Palestinians whom they still call "abeed"/slaves today. All this historical denial in the name of genocide is "unbearable" in my opinion.
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Titi Ayenew (right) is Beta Israel (formerly known as Falashas):
Titi Ayenew, the former Miss Israel, makes a good point -- the same point TheOne and I were outlining in earlier discussions. 'If Palestinian Blacks have to live on El Abeed Street (Slave Street), in Palestine, it's an issue that should be addressed,' even in the midst of the current atrocities.
Yes, we can critique Palestine and Israel, too.
This is paradoxically a propitious time to address the Black classical culture issue that is continuing to be intentionally overlooked by Eurocentric media.
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