My love-hate relationship with the NFL continues. Their treatment of Colin Kaepernick sticks in my craw every time I read about it. Now, seeing this article (posted below) on Tony Dungy doesn’t help. Colin Kaepernick steps up and kneels down to end police violence and racial inequity, he becomes a pariah. Meanwhile, Dungy is held up as a deeply religious man and nearly a patron saint of the league.
You see, this is a good example, Tony Dungy(and wife in the photo below) is an African-American from a country(USA) that has a growing number of ppl as you said who accept/tolerate homosexuality. But on the other hand you have an equally higher number of ppl in the USA who sees it just like Tony Dungy. If Colin Kaepernick was gay Tony would've hated him too and wouldn't want him in his team because of his religious beliefs.
Now comparing the two, Colin Kaepernick's action/response to injustice was supported by many because he was Black, and sadly Tony Dungy is supported by many because he's anti-gay. I don't see any parallel in these two circumstances, I see two situations being very unbalanced and have to conclude through them that most ppl on earth are not ready to accept homosexuality as a norm,..but in contrast most ppl today reject racism. We dont even know if Colin Kaepernick himself accepts or would accept gays in his family.
There are not too many folks in this globe who are ahead of their time when it comes to homosexuals being singles or married. We are definitely amongst a tiny, very tiny minority who view it differently.
LOL, anyway, I know GM will like Tony Dungy even more since his wife is Black. hahahahaha!!
Mr TheOne, don't fall for the hype! Tony Dungy DOES NOT HATE gay people BUTT he does have issues with the act of homosexuality based on his deeply religious faith. If the wicked trolls have an issue with Tony's religious beliefs, let them go around destroying the Bible, stop going to religious services, condemn religion etc etc.
Those dirty stinking trolls & racist hypocrites who are hating on Tony Dungy are the same white miserable miscreants who demonized the Black Church as being homophobic---its as if the Black church created homophobia. To those critics I say "go fukkk yourself!!
As for Colin Kaepernick, I love the guy.. BIG PROPS TO COLIN KAEPERNICK & TONY DUNGY! . and they are both married to Black women. Yaaaaay
Wow, I didn't know that he didn't really hate gays but hates their acts. Ok, so religion is definitely an obstacle for gays social life today.
However, my question as usual was this,..how did homosexuality become so taboo when it was openly accepted in some ancient cultures and one of these cultures was Abdul's culture ? Only when religion came into existance that gay life becomes a "NO, NO", practically all over the world.
Let's take the Greeks for example, or more accurately the Athenians, since there's evidence that Sparta was very different for example. Men were expected to have children, would be all but required to get married to a woman and produce heirs. They had a rather disturbing "tradition" of older men seducing and basically acting as sugar daddies for younger men, but this wasn't really homosexuality, there were clear roles. The older man would always penetrate, for him to instead be penetrated himself would be utterly scandalous.
Much the same was the case in Rome and other ancient societies that "accepted homosexuality". Without any effective contraception, sex with a woman was invariably risky and important.
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Mr TheOne, don't fall for the hype! Tony Dungy DOES NOT HATE gay people BUTT he does have issues with the act of homosexuality based on his deeply religious faith. If the wicked trolls have an issue with Tony's religious beliefs, let them go around destroying the Bible, stop going to religious services, condemn religion etc etc.
Those dirty stinking trolls & racist hypocrites who are hating on Tony Dungy are the same white miserable miscreants who demonized the Black Church as being homophobic---its as if the Black church created homophobia. To those critics I say "go fukkk yourself!!
As for Colin Kaepernick, I love the guy.. BIG PROPS TO COLIN KAEPERNICK & TONY DUNGY! . and they are both married to Black women. Yaaaaay
Mr. Dungy’s religious beliefs are no concern of mine. He can believe what he wants. That is his business If he embraces a 2000-year-old book which, besides condemning homosexuality, contains a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, for slavery, for bride-price, and for indiscriminate massacre.
The concern starts when he takes these beliefs out of the religious sphere and into the public. Like most religious zealots, Mr Dungy is perfectly comfortable with state sanctions against those straying from his godly beliefs.
He openly boasts that he would not allow them employment on his team, a clear violation of laws against discrimatory practice. Thank God, we have a strong and long tradition of secular government created by our founding fathers. It separates us from countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia, who execute gays and heretics, incarcerate women for dress code violations, and stone them for committing adultery.
A secondary concern is the company that Mr. Dungy keeps. For years he has been the featured speaker at an event hosted by rabidly anti-gay Christian evangelist Andrew Wommack, who has equated being gay to murder, stating that being gay is "three times worse than smoking," so gay people "ought to put a label across their forehead, 'This can be hazardous to your health.'"
One last point. The following is the public comment by Colin kaepernick when asked about gay players in the NFL:
"I think when he steps into that locker room, everyone's going to know that he's there to help us win games, and that's why you're in the NFL, to help us win games. No one cares if you're black, white, straight, gay, Christian, Jewish, whatever it may be. That's your job. That's your occupation.”
Sorry to say there are some that still do care if your gay. Zealot Dungy does. And Mr. Dungy will shut the door on you if you are gay. Gays need not apply.
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Wow, I didn't know that he didn't really hate gays but hates their acts. Ok, so religion is definitely an obstacle for gays social life today.
However, my question as usual was this,..how did homosexuality become so taboo when it was openly accepted in some ancient cultures and one of these cultures was Abdul's culture ? Only when religion came into existance that gay life becomes a "NO, NO", practically all over the world.
Let's take the Greeks for example, or more accurately the Athenians, since there's evidence that Sparta was very different for example. Men were expected to have children, would be all but required to get married to a woman and produce heirs. They had a rather disturbing "tradition" of older men seducing and basically acting as sugar daddies for younger men, but this wasn't really homosexuality, there were clear roles. The older man would always penetrate, for him to instead be penetrated himself would be utterly scandalous.
Much the same was the case in Rome and other ancient societies that "accepted homosexuality". Without any effective contraception, sex with a woman was invariably risky and important.
Previous Message
Mr TheOne, don't fall for the hype! Tony Dungy DOES NOT HATE gay people BUTT he does have issues with the act of homosexuality based on his deeply religious faith. If the wicked trolls have an issue with Tony's religious beliefs, let them go around destroying the Bible, stop going to religious services, condemn religion etc etc.
Those dirty stinking trolls & racist hypocrites who are hating on Tony Dungy are the same white miserable miscreants who demonized the Black Church as being homophobic---its as if the Black church created homophobia. To those critics I say "go fukkk yourself!!
As for Colin Kaepernick, I love the guy.. BIG PROPS TO COLIN KAEPERNICK & TONY DUNGY! . and they are both married to Black women. Yaaaaay
"Ok, so religion is definitely an obstacle for gays social life today." EXACTLY Mr TheOne, but Gay activists rather pin the blame on ordinary people. Let them go after the Pope instead but they are cowards and afraid of the wrath of the church, whether it's Catholic, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism etc etc. I guess it's much easier to go after Black folks or the Black church. Damn hypocrites!
It's not only religion though, I guess nature also plays a part since homosexuality does not create life which is basic to human survival. As for transgenders, nature will definitely have none of it because a man cannot become a woman, nor can a woman become a man. Nature says no way!
As for ancient times, the Greeks were kings of so-called 'perversions' - not only was homosexuality widely practiced, some aspects of pedophilia was practiced too...YUUCK!