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"Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian....reading is good

Posted by historian gm on 5/27/2025, 3:13 pm

Historian Tom Segev, mostly regarded as Israel's top historian on the holocaust, wrote an article for Haaretz admitting that Zionism was a mistake both for Jews & Judaism, and the lies justifying that movement.

google: "Looking Back, Israeli Historian Tom Segev Thinks Zionism Was a Mistake."

For those interested, you'll find it an unbelievable read.
Lol..American mainstream media didn't report on this - mostly discussed & reported in Israeli media.

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Re: "Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian// "VIDEO"

Posted by theone on 5/28/2025, 3:27 am, in reply to ""Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian....reading is good"

Many things through recorded history were huge mistakes,.. slavery was a mistake, White supremacy was a mistake, Colonialism was a mistake, even some religious beliefs were a mistake, racism was and still is a mistake, Apartheid was a mistake, and maybe capitalism was a mistake too,...etc etc..

Anyway, I came across this video below yesterday, and this is what happened at Kris's parliament in Israel. Ayman Odeh, a member of the Arab-Jewish Hadash party, was forcefully removed from the podium in the Israeli parliament as he criticised Israel's war on Gaza and the rising death toll. With English Subtitles.

Re: "Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian// "VIDEO"

Posted by gm on 5/28/2025, 8:12 pm, in reply to "Re: "Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian// "VIDEO""

What is shocking about Tom Segev's article is that he says something about the creation of Israel few people dare say; and when they did, they were banished, ostracized, called antisemitic etc..
Intellectuals like Naom Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Norman Finkeltel etc., have put forward that idea and they've paid the price.
Even Albert Einstein warned about Zionism becoming something very very evil, and now it has.

It's become obvious to most people that Zionism, in its own way, is the flip side of Nazism - they are of the same coin - and the fact that some of the founders of that idea espoused hardcore colonialist attitudes, says a lot.

For sure, slavery was not a mistake, it was a calculated evil, much like colonialism, apartheid etc.

Quick question: I noticed you left out the Holocaust among your list of mistakes. Don't you think it was also a "mistake"? Just curious.

Re: "Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian// "VIDEO"

Posted by gm on 5/28/2025, 8:15 pm, in reply to "Re: "Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian// "VIDEO""

What is shocking about Tom Segev's article is that he says something about the creation of Israel few people dare say; and when they do, they are banished, ostracized, called antisemitic etc..
Intellectuals like Naom Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Norman Finkelstein etc., have put forward that idea and they've paid the price.
Even Albert Einstein warned about Zionism becoming something very very evil, and now it has.

It's become obvious to most people that Zionism, in its own way, is the flip side of Nazism - they are of the same coin - and the fact that some of the founders of that idea espoused hardcore colonialist attitudes, says a lot.

For sure, slavery was not a mistake, it was a calculated evil, much like colonialism, apartheid etc.

Quick question: I noticed you left out the Holocaust among your list of mistakes. Don't you think it was also a "mistake"? Just curious.

Re: "Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian// "VIDEO"

Posted by theone on 5/29/2025, 8:46 am, in reply to "Re: "Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian// "VIDEO""

""""For sure, slavery was not a mistake, it was a calculated evil, much like colonialism, apartheid etc."""""

I said it was a mistake meaning it was not supposed to happen at all, whether calculated or not.

Of course the holocaust whether the White Jewish one or the Namibian one or even the native-American one all were done "deliberately", but it doesn't nullify the fact that it was a mistake. A mistake Mr G means an act or judgement that is misguided or wrong. Now apologize. LOL!!

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Re: "Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian....reading is good

Posted by Les on 6/2/2025, 11:18 am, in reply to ""Zionism was a mistake", says Israel's top historian....reading is good"

Yes, here is the Tom Segev article lead you mentioned last week, GM -- They've got a paywall on it, but here's the lead:

"Only now, having reached the age of 80, is Tom Segev ready to admit that he was brought up on a lie.

In recent years, the longtime historian and journalist who published numerous books and articles about the lives of others, has reexamined his own biography... ."

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