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North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)

Posted by theone on 7/5/2026, 10:12 am

This is a great move on the part of Tunisia back in 2020. Don't know how I missed this news!!

Notice this wasn't "Allah's" intervention in this man's case, instead it was a Tunisian court intervention that allowed an 81-year-old Afro-Tunisian man to remove a word that marked him out as descended from slaves from his name in Tunisia, North Africa. (Article below)

LOL, now I know no one will tell me to shut up because there is no "genocide" in Tunisia(an Arab Muslim country in North Africa). Hahahaha, I'm still laughing out loud and talking to myself on this board, ha-ha-ha

Link: https://thearabweekly.com/tunisian-family-wins-right-drop-slavery-remi

Re: North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)

Posted by Les on 7/5/2026, 11:13 pm, in reply to "Re: North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)"

This is great information, TheOne. So “Atig” means “liberated by.” That seems to be an indignity that would have been eradicated in the 1800s. It would seem the African Union would address such issues. My gggrandfather dropped his slave name, which was Irby. He chose the last name Thomas, instead. Some of his siblings kept the Irby name, meanwhile.

Paradoxically, we would not have been able to trace our family history as far back had not the “non-woke” family members kept the slave-era name.

In my novel, I gave one of the Egyptian characters the Arabic last name “Urbi,” which may be where the European “Irby” derived. I decided to keep my English last name after I realized the ease of tracing one’s ancestry under a uniform last name. Sometimes practicality trumps being woke.

Edwin Thomas - Irby

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Re: North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)

Posted by theone on 7/6/2026, 3:36 am, in reply to "Re: North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)"

""""In my novel, I gave one of the Egyptian characters the Arabic last name “Urbi,” which may be where the European “Irby” derived""""

Very possible, and that is because both the Bible and the Quran are rooted in the same ancient Middle Eastern (Semitic) history and share the same overarching prophetic lineage. Since Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic are closely related languages, the names are generally the exact same, just adapted to fit the spelling and pronunciation of different languages.

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Re: North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)

Posted by Les on 7/6/2026, 5:37 am, in reply to "Re: North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)"

Most Black Americans are about 25% mixed with European, TheOne. But all Europeans are derived from Blacks. They simply have less melanin to facilitate Vitamin D processing, in non-tropic environs.

You know, the Koi Koi admixture in Southern Africa also makes the Bantu lighter than the stereotype white-media imposed depiction of melanated people.

West Africans are more brown when we critically look at the populations. North Africans have a pretty high admixture, yourselves. I think my gggrandfather would have fit in well with the Immortals of Mesopotamia (Northeast Africa).

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Yes, Les, I remember this great picture of your gggrandfather below, he looks a bit mixed though, and he was definitely ahead of his time to have done so(drop his slave name) at that time. And I thought the first AA to have dropped his slave name was MalcolmX, LOL, I was wrong.

""""In my novel, I gave one of the Egyptian characters the Arabic last name “Urbi,” which may be where the European “Irby” derived""""

Very possible, and that is because both the Bible and the Quran are rooted in the same ancient Middle Eastern (Semitic) history and share the same overarching prophetic lineage. Since Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic are closely related languages, the names are generally the exact same, just adapted to fit the spelling and pronunciation of different languages.

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Re: North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)

Posted by theone on 7/6/2026, 3:34 pm, in reply to "Re: North Africa: "Tunisian" family wins right to drop "slavery" reminder from name (article)"

I would say so,...your gggrandfather would have fit in well with the entire "MENA"(Middle-East&North Africa)regions even back then in the 1800s, simply because the admixture in the "MENA" started way earlier, way before Europeans brought Africans to the New world. Fact!!

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