Oh Brian you do surprise by saying a good hiding is what these kids need, that’s not like you? Thing is Brian that is exactly what some kids need, in years gone by when I was a kid if we do much as saw a policeman coming towards you you panicked, if you had been doming something you shouldn’t a clip round the ear was given by the policeman, you never committed the crime again, I don’t agree with cruelty towards children but sometimes I am sure a hard slap would work!!