Paul, your posting is perfect thank you so much, I and several others have often expressed how fed up we are having to read and re-read all they have to say, mostly political also concerning immigrants, every country today is struggling with these problems, and we have to deal with them on a daily basis, the whole world is a mess and is getting worse, but there are also better things for us to dwell on, to help with, maybe even make Forum a better place to visit.