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tier 4

Posted by Brian on December 30, 2020, 4:29 pm

The North East is now in tier 4 from midnight tonight even though most figures in the North East are lower than a lot of other areas. There's no rhyme or reason to this, surely it would be simpler to place the whole country in tier 4 then they can judge properly if the tier system is working.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Liz Dance on December 30, 2020, 5:18 pm, in reply to "tier 4"

2 weeks ago we, in Herefordshire, were in tier 1 then one week later we went into tier 2 from tomorrow we will be in tier 3, to be honest I can’t say that I am surprised, the rate of reported cases just keeps rising, something had to be done, and yes maybe the country should all go into tier 4 we have to fight this virus.

Hopefully vaccinations will help, getting vaccinated can’t come fast enough for me, in the meantime we have to adhere to the rules whether we like it or not.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Eddy Nesbitt. on December 30, 2020, 7:05 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

I am a bit annoyed at how short a notice we were given Brian.When earlier movements were announced they were given at least 24 hours.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Brian on December 30, 2020, 7:53 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

I was more than annoyed, signs of panic going on Eddy. Boris evidently said in an interview that he doesn't know if the tiers are effective. Thats why it would be sensible to put the whole country in the same tier.Then you can tell if it's working. The amount of times he has given dates when it would be beaten and is totally wrong means nobody believes what he says, he has eroded any credibility he had.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Davy on December 30, 2020, 7:33 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

No liz we dont have to adhere to the rules. To a government that doesent know its ar$€ from its elbow. We have to obey the law of the land. This government is destroying this country and peoples livelihoods but their not bothered they have the money.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Stan Wears on December 30, 2020, 7:45 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Stricter laws should have been imposed upon the people not wearing masks and keeping social distances. It would have helped to stop the spread. This is a lethal virus. You get fined for dropping litter but you get off with spreading a virus that kills

Re: tier 4

Posted by Ged on December 30, 2020, 8:05 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

The authorities need to prosecute people who blatantly break the rules instead of turning a blind eye. I travelled to & from Sunderland on the Metro today & the number of people not wearing masks was unbelievable. The number of kids - in their teens without masks - disgraceful, the new strain of the virus is 70% more virulent & these kids can contract & spread this disease more readily than older folk because a significant number have been proved to be 'A Symptomatic' , not showing any symptoms.
It's a similar story in Supermarkets, they have staff supervising the doors, they have security , if people have no documented evidence of exemption for wearing a mask - DON'T ALLLOW THEM ENTRY. Some argue it's a breach of their human rights, what about everybody else's human rights?
EVERYBODY must toe the line but this unfortunately is not gonna happen.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Liz Dance on December 30, 2020, 8:08 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

You have your opinion Davy and I have mine we have to agree to disagree. I will obey the rules, I will wear a mask in shops or wherever else I am expected to do so, I don’t like it but I will continue to do so for however long it is required, every time I enter a shop or wherever I will sanitise my hands, I sanitise when I leave, I will continue to social distance, I do not want to catch the virus, I know lots of people who have it or have it, these people are not very well.

The Government are doing what they think is right, it is a changing situation, I shudder to think what Labour would be doing, everyone has an opinion, again Davy you have yours, we have to disagree.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Joseph on December 30, 2020, 8:53 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Just be thankful the likes of corbyn, abbot. And a few more crackpots didn't get in.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Brian on December 30, 2020, 9:04 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

The tories aren't exactly normal, Joseph

Re: tier 4

Posted by Davy on December 30, 2020, 10:07 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Are you all still wearing your latex gloves? No bet your not. To inconvenient pulling them on and off isn't it. But you will wear and touch a manky mask all day, it's a flu bug touching spreads it as well, put your gloves back on before calling other people.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Michael Crooks on December 30, 2020, 10:28 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Actually Covid isn't a flu virus but a SARS virus.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Brian on December 30, 2020, 11:41 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Gloves aren't good for this when your out, regular sanitizing is the way, keep your hands sanitized, as for masks yeah they do get manky, damp, smelly, so if your out for a while take more than one with you, and either take it home to be washed or dispose responsibly, they are like the new fast food wrappers on the ground nowadays

Re: tier 4

Posted by Liz Dance on December 31, 2020, 9:58 am, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Davy, is the glove comment meant for me, if so I have never worn latex gloves, as I have said I continually sanitise my hands and always wash my hands when I get home, as for wearing a mask, yes I wear a mask, I dispose of them once worn.

As you appear to be a non believer I sincerely hope that in the event that you catch the virus you will not be wanting to take up valuable hospital space!!!

Re: tier 4

Posted by Joseph on December 31, 2020, 10:45 am, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Here, here.🤔🤔🤔

Re: tier 4

Posted by Davy on December 31, 2020, 11:45 am, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

I paid into it all my life, not like some. If I want the hospital I will use it. Pity the cancer patients who now are waiting behind people who have so they say a 99% chance of survival.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Norman forster on December 31, 2020, 12:05 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Well said Davy. They are making thus up as they go along. This new vaccine doesn't do much when you can still get it afterwards ( 2 in USA test positive after having the vaccine) Take at your peril.This will reduce the population okay.

Re: tier 4 ( Davy)

Posted by Stan Wears on December 31, 2020, 12:28 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

I agree Davy. My wife was told she'd be ok in hospital in a green area away from covid where she could be treated for her cancer. I never saw her again. Earlier treatment was delayed for months due to covid in the hospital. It's a fact that cancer patients are dying due to delays in hospital and stage 1 can fast rage into stage 3 (aggressive) in even a few weeks.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Liz Dance on December 31, 2020, 12:31 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Davy, I agree with you 100% but the point I was making related to Covid only, if it doesn’t exist there is no point in trying to cure it by going into hospital.

Norman, I think you will find that at least one of the 2 people in the US who tested positive following the jab had only had one dose, you need to have 2 doses for the vaccine to take effect.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Joseph on December 31, 2020, 1:01 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Story in the mail. American politician shunned all masks and any other precautions dead and buried now with the covid. What more proof do you need.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Eddy Nesbitt. on December 31, 2020, 1:13 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Joseph if you hit some of the non believers with a sledge hammer full of proof that Covid does exist they would still turn a blind eye to it.If you ask them to provide proof that it does not exist they cannot give you an answer.Liz i agree fully with your comments.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Norman forster on December 31, 2020, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Eddy it does exist but so does the flu which this year is put down as Covid same as my friend who fell off the roof with multiple injuries It was put down as Covid, there's some proof.

Covid co-incidence

Posted by Mac Cummings on December 31, 2020, 3:26 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Coincidence that Norman F
A month ago the Mail reported that in Croatia a builder fell off a roof and it was discovered that he had covid before his fall and that large sections of his lungs were blocked.
Thus his death was recorded as Covid.
But I cannot find any record of a similar case in the UK. I would have thought that the Daily Mail would be right on a story like that.
You should tell them about your friend.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Joseph on December 31, 2020, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Find the roof fall very hard to believe, and a few more of the fairy stories.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Davy on December 31, 2020, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Nobody says it doesn't exist, But where is the mass dying. Just because of it? And I mean just because of this specific disease. this is about control it's happening awaken up before it's to late.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Norman forster on December 31, 2020, 4:00 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Exactly. It's time a few woke up about it.
No one's took me up on it yet but this is going to be around for a long time yet vaccine or not.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Norman forster on December 31, 2020, 1:45 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Liz. It's the time it takes to get the 2nd jab.
Over here it's taking forever to get the first one. And Dr Hillary TV. SAYS you can still get it after having it. Couldn't make it up. All the best if there is any left.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Paul Arlington on December 31, 2020, 6:02 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

55,892 new positive cases and another 964 deaths. But this is just a flu bug going around, REALLY!!!!!!!!!

Re: tier 4

Posted by Mac Cummings on December 31, 2020, 6:19 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Yes Paul. Just a nasty cold really (not) ......only 1,810,000 dead across the world.
YES THAT IS 1.81 MILLION Folk and still people dont believe that it is real.
Just go about life normally eh.....only 1.81 million dead and countless families grieving!!!
Oh and dont have the vaccine. Why bother only 1.81M dead so far?
Oh and I wont take any precautions but I will still use the hospital if I want.....ONLY 1.81 Million dead!!!!
And it is all just a political conspiracy.....words fail me!

Re: tier 4

Posted by Joseph on December 31, 2020, 6:38 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Couldn't have put it better my self mac, but as eddy said Head//// brick Wall. What's the point.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Davy on December 31, 2020, 7:38 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

56 million people died in 20017. Pity they could not blame covid.

Re: tier 4

Posted by Norman forster on January 1, 2021, 1:45 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Startlistening to some right wing views on this
And you will get some real figures. All you get off main stream media is fear and scaremongering.
Doris Johnson has already booked 2021 for us. Wait and see.

Re Vaccine 70% effective after first-90% after second

Posted by Mac Cummings on December 31, 2020, 3:10 pm, in reply to "Re: tier 4"

Liz/Norman F
Jonathan Van Tam explained the 2 cases last night.
One of the two was discovered 2 days after the vaccination. Because of the gestation period the person had cerainly been infected by covid before the vaccine was administered
The other was discovered 10 days after the vaccination. Because a vaccine of any sort takes 14 to 21 days to give a level of immunity it is his opinion that the vaccine was not deficient!
You will have seen that the plan is now to still give two vacs but the second will be 12 weeks later.
Simply put the first gives 70% effectiveness and the second takes it up to 90%.
So under this plan a greater number of people will have a significant resistance to covid much earlier.
I am not a scientist but this sems logical to me!

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