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National Lockdown

Posted by Liz Dance on January 4, 2021, 4:04 pm

Boris is going to be addressing the Nation tonight, I do believe he is going to put us into National lockdown, to be honest, and I guess this will not be popular, but if we are going into National lockdown I do believe this time we should close the borders, I don’t just mean between us and the devolved nations, I also think some kind of curfew should be imposed. This all might sound harsh, and as previously said, these measures will not be popular but we have to do something drastic especially with this new strain of Covid.

I feel that life it passing us by now, not what we had planned for retirement so I really would like to think that if there is a National lockdown, the roll out of the vaccine etc maybe, just maybe, the middle part of the year we might have the start of a normal life again.

Just my thoughts but I would like to hear what other board members have to say, a nice debate please and no nasty comments, we all have our own thoughts and we need to agree to disagree at times, but welcome the debate. Thank you.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by David Henley on January 4, 2021, 4:20 pm, in reply to "National Lockdown"

Increase the rate of people vaccinated asap and return to opening up economy.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Mac Cummings on January 4, 2021, 5:34 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Yes to both David.
The logistic challenge of the former is enormous but essential to get us back to a proper level of commercial activity.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Ged on January 4, 2021, 4:30 pm, in reply to "National Lockdown"

I think Lockdown is inevitable as unpalatable as it will be & after all the sacrifices we have endured to date it is something that in my view must be done to buy us some time until the Covid Vaccines can be administered & start making an impact on the population of this country. If I had any doubt about the seriousness of this Pandemic, that was laid to rest on GMB this morning in an interview with Dave Carr an ITU nurse who said the NHS has never been under so much pressure ever in his 38 years in the NHS & is at absolute breaking point. The NHS is massively understaffed & they do not have the numbers to cope. These Nightingale Hospitals are largely White Elephants because they don't have the numbers to Man them. If we don't have this Lockdown our NHS will just haemorrhage out of control. So in my view we have NO CHOICE.
I say it again we have to take the short term pain for the long term gain.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Allan Campbell on January 4, 2021, 4:53 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

This has been on the cards for a long time. The Covid deniers and those that will not wear masks. Plus the dash to the last chance saloon.

I see that some deniers were getting into a London Hospital taking photos of empty corridors at the weekend then posting them on media. Absolute nutters.

If they had stuck to the guidelines months ago we may not have had to suffer lockdowns.

Allan C.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Allan Campbell on January 4, 2021, 5:09 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

I suspect that Starmer will try to take credit for it if we do go into lockdown, hence his utterance earlier.

Allan C.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by David Henley on January 4, 2021, 5:11 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Take credit for bankrupting country, a strange analogy.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Ged on January 4, 2021, 6:10 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

This Pandemic transcends Politics whether anybody "takes credit" or not is irrelevant.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Mac Cummings on January 4, 2021, 5:30 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

The Nightingale in London is being activated.
Members of the joint-command armed forces nursing corps are already on standby to man the facility and this includes deployment of staff from the Defence Medical Services HQ.
They are just waiting for the button to be pressed.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Barrie Mortimer on January 4, 2021, 6:11 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

I wish there was one rule for the whole of the UK. Nicola Sturgeon is so preoccupied with getting independence for Scotland that she has been trying to close the border between England and Scotland for quite a while now. We live in Scotland but our nearest supermarkets are only 6 miles away in England.
Common sense seems to have become a victim of coronavirus.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Don Scott on January 4, 2021, 6:27 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

I have stayed away from Forum discussions on this subject because of the way they usually descend into various kinds of argument that get us nowhere. Don’t get me wrong; I am not taking a ‘holier than thou' position. I am just as capable of hurling abuse as anyone else. The trouble is, I am not an expert on Covid even though I have spent countless hours discussing this appalling ‘Catch 22’ situation with family and friends. A few of them are capable of some very sound thinking but the truth is that there seems to be no logical answers that cannot be foiled by further questioning.

I am not a follower of Boris Johnson but he has my sympathy, as has all the world leaders who are in the same boat…they hardly know where to turn. Why? Because they are all surrounded by so called ‘experts’ who offer differing opinions/advise and bombarded by ‘non experts’ who trash all attempts to get us out of this mess.

Just try this little puzzle. There are two extremes that could be adopted in the fight against this virus. At one end, we could ‘do absolutely nothing’ and let Covid take its toll and at the other end we could go for ‘total lockdown'. The former is unthinkable and the latter impossible so, the correct course of action lies somewhere between the two. Now will someone stand up and tell me exactly what that course of action should be?

We all have our personal or collective ideas as to the best way forward but step forward the man or woman who would care to stand in Boris Johnson’s shoes and listen to the wolf pack that is baying for his blood whilst he is trying to make the best of all the advice that is being poured over his head. These are dark hours but we must support him just as much as we support those NHS heroes who are fighting the battle with an ever-decreasing circle of wagons. Their struggle is not in vain and the Covid Cavalry are just coming over the hill with a way to save the day. Yes, the newly arrived vaccines must surely be the ultimate answer to this killer in our midst.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by N44 on January 4, 2021, 6:54 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Well said Don.

I wouldnt fancy his job.
Its a difficult one.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Mac Cummings on January 4, 2021, 7:09 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Absolutely Don.....!

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Carol in hampshire on January 4, 2021, 7:10 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Well said Don

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Allan Campbell on January 4, 2021, 7:59 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

An excellent post Don you’ve covered it. Very very well.

Allan Campbell

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Liz Dance on January 4, 2021, 8:10 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Well said Don thank you for your post.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Sylvia on January 4, 2021, 8:20 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

I am in agreement and wish we had something similar in Florida! If you can believe a local group was given permission to hold an outdoor celebration on New Year's Eve, for the whole family, with a car show, other entertainment and no mention of the word mask - it was advertised in the local paper. I found that to be quite ridiculous. Yet another super-spreader event. On a good note, my husband and I are getting our vaccines tomorrow .. they're starting with the over 65's. It's the Moderna one.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Brian on January 4, 2021, 9:03 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

The one thing they must do is not mix the vaccines, all medical advice says don't, I do hope they need it. That being said let's hope everyone abides by the lockdown so a semblance of normality come sooner than later.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Flora on January 5, 2021, 12:27 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Hear, hear Don.

Why are we called the United Kingdom

Posted by N44 on January 5, 2021, 11:04 am, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

We are supposed to be the UK but we aren't.
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland do whatever they decide.
Wee Krankie Sturgeon the racist Scot is more interested in another referendum. She wants to be independent of the English and wants to rejoin the EU . Where would Scotland get £billions for their yearly fees? Here is her New Year pic described in the papers as sucking up to the EU

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Sandra on January 5, 2021, 12:36 pm, in reply to "National Lockdown"

My 2 sons have both tested positive.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Mac Hardy on January 5, 2021, 2:30 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

The Prime Minister is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. I would like to see Politicians coming together at this time to form a common policy, not back biting.

Re: National Lockdown

Posted by Norman forster on January 5, 2021, 2:49 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

The reason Doris doesn't know what he's doing is because he does know what he's doing but doesn't know how to hide it???

Re: National Lockdown - For SANDRA

Posted by George on January 5, 2021, 3:19 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Sorry to learn about your sons Sandra. How old are they and how are they keeping?

Re: National Lockdown - For SANDRA

Posted by trish on January 5, 2021, 4:14 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown - For SANDRA"

The powers that be can only work with the tools the have. Although I still believe that the goalposts should not keep moving. Should we not of kept the original rules in place till more information was gathered. ???

Re: National Lockdown - For SANDRA

Posted by Sandra on January 6, 2021, 12:19 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown - For SANDRA"

My eldest is 46 years old and he's slowly getting better. My youngest is 28 years old and shaking it off quite well. Thank you for asking. Worrying times.

For Sandra

Posted by Norman Dunn on January 5, 2021, 7:06 pm, in reply to "Re: National Lockdown"

Hi Sandra,
I think I speak for everyone and hope your sons are strong and get over this quickly. Stay strong.

Re: For Sandra

Posted by Liz Dance on January 5, 2021, 7:13 pm, in reply to "For Sandra"

Sandra, Don’t know how old your sons are but hope they recover very soon, I personally know of 10 people who have had the virus ages ranging from 13 up to 70, unfortunately the 70 year old passed away but I have to tell you he was suffering from other ailments, the others went through various symptoms but eventually recovered, there is one lady who had the misfortune to catch the virus twice. Hope your sons recover very soon.

Re: For Sandra

Posted by peter cook on January 5, 2021, 8:09 pm, in reply to "Re: For Sandra"

My friends grandson aged 6 has just tested positive for it.

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