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Our future King.

Posted by Thomas Buglass on June 26, 2022, 9:29:19

Just seen on BBC good morning about Charles supposedly accepting 1 million Euro’s from a Saudi Prince for one of his charities. Like I said in a past post, we are supposed to look up to these people. They should be done away with. S***h**es

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Harry on June 26, 2022, 10:36:50, in reply to "Our future King."

Who would want Charles to be king? Not me.
Click the Links and what he's been upto accepting a million Euros cash in a suitcase and at othertimes millions in large carrier bags.
If legitimate businesses worked like that, the owners would be arrested & gaoled for money laundering, tax evasion,etc.
His excuses dont wash with us as that is not the way we work in this Country.

Link: LINK

Our Future King?? All bit Fishy...

Posted by Michael Lynch on June 26, 2022, 10:45:32, in reply to "Re: Our future King."
Edited by board administrator June 26, 2022, 10:53:38

Have he and his advisers not heard of Bank Transfers?? This stinks? Can you think what the Media would be saying if this was Boris??..

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Norman Dunn on June 26, 2022, 11:00:33, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Well said Michael. I hope you are well and continue being a regular contributor to the board.

As you say why was millions of Euro's not tranferred into his account?
If I took a large bag of cash to the Bank, would they accept it? definitely NOT
So how was millions of pounds deposited into his bank account?

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Liz Dance on June 26, 2022, 11:16:40, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Banks query deposits of £5,000 in cash, if you want to withdraw these days you get funny looks, amounts of over £19,000 in cash questions are asked, it might be less now but certainly a few years ago it was round about that amount.

Yes very well said Michael if this was Boris what an uproar that would cause???

Totally scurrilous report

Posted by Mac Cummings on June 26, 2022, 11:49:13, in reply to "Re: Our future King."
Edited by administrator Admin2 June 26, 2022, 11:52:56

In a statement, a Clarence House spokesman said the money given during the 2015 meeting was passed immediately to one of the princes charities who carried out the appropriate covenants and assured us that all the correct processes were followed.
The suitcase containing the cash was given to two of Charles advisers who are said to have hand-counted the money. Palace aides are said to have asked Coutts, the private bank which acts for the royal family, to collect the cash.
Each payment was deposited into the accounts of the Prince of Wales Charitable Fund (PWCF). There is no suggestion the payments were illegal, the Sunday Times reported today.
So is a better headline PRINCE DOES NOTHING ILLEGAL. SHOCK HORROR PROBE !!

Re: Our future King.

Posted by John Shearer on June 26, 2022, 11:51:23, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

That reminds me, I need New brown bag.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Mac Hardy on June 26, 2022, 13:53:56, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

The big question should be why was the money given and what was expected in exchange ?

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Sheila on June 26, 2022, 14:34:01, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

This was news in 2021. Michael Fawsett , originally butler and later aide to Prince Charles for 40 years, resigned after being accused of offering a rich arab honours for cash to go to the charity the Princes Trust. . It appears money went through the bank legally and was transferred to the Princes Trust. The police investigated and it was all above board. So I have read, but to a lot of people, especially republicans will be loving it.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Norman Dunn on June 26, 2022, 16:06:29, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

It certainly wasn't legal to donate 3 million Euros over to the Prince in a Suitcase and Fortnum and Mason bags. Like Michael Lynch said higher up the thread, why did they not do a simple Bank Transfer???
That uncrupulous method is used by Drug Dealers and Thieves.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Mac Cummings on June 26, 2022, 16:39:05, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

It is absoulutely legal to give money in whatever amount as long as there is no criminality involved.
I worry that there are always unsubtantiated slurs about all sorts of things now nearly always years after the event and therfore almost impossible to prove or disprove
In this case the motives of the donor are unknown but receiving the dosh for a charity doesnt seem to be wrong to me.
Prince Charles is far from my favorite but we will be King.
But some seem to wish for a Republic. That can bring with it Presidents actually guilty of a crime (Sarkozy) or under scrutiny (Trump) or better still SADO CRIMINALS like Putin or Lushashenko.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Liz Dance on June 26, 2022, 16:59:30, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

If the money was lodged with Coutts I know for certain that the money trail would have been long and arduous, I had nearly 25 years of dealing with Coutts during my working life, they delved into everything, it got worse as time went on.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Mac Cummings on June 26, 2022, 21:07:12, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

I was a Coutts customer for many a year. They were sound>

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Sheila on June 26, 2022, 17:36:24, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Do we really know if it was in a suitcase Norman. It is dreadful how at the moment a lot of news is anti Royalty. It is sad for the Queen who has to read this after giving her life to serve her country. It does happen from time to time. Sadly the Russian Royal family were denied safety in this country as George V was worried incase the UK would follow the Russians as a Republic. See how Russia turned out as great communist country.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Brian on June 27, 2022, 8:18:17, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

I am sure I read that the Royals never carried cash,

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Joseph on June 27, 2022, 9:09:53, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Don't believe for one second he would be stupid enough to accept cash in a suitcase or carrier bag, believe that and you must believe in santaclause,(scuse my spelling of old santa )

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Sheila on June 27, 2022, 9:16:04, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

I agree Joseph, but it makes a good story for the newspapers.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by geordieboy ns on June 27, 2022, 12:33:41, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

OLD. NEWS. : And why is this been regagitated now ? Like it or not the Sticks & Stones wont break his bones , unless he steps aside he is the next in line for the throne.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by geordieboy ns on June 27, 2022, 12:44:26, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Just a typo, though never was good at spelling but I'm a hard man to beat with a hammer and chisel.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Lilian on June 27, 2022, 12:54:29, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

No worries about the spelling Geordieboy,but the Hammer and chisel beatings would be painful.haha

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Lilian on June 27, 2022, 13:35:53, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Oops meant to add I was just jokingno offence was intended to Geordieboy.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Mac Cummings on June 27, 2022, 14:57:01, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Geordieboy won't complain Lillian until at least 7 years time.

Thats the way things like this are handled nowadays.....amazing how many cases have been brought for things that are said to have occurred umpteen years ago and almost impossible to prove or disprove.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by geordieboy nc on June 28, 2022, 3:14:19, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

I'm with Mac Cummings on this topic , but just lets regress fora second , if you dissect ( re"gag"itated ) the meaning was clear , or as my old Granny would say "let OLD sleeping dogs be" The media should put a "gag" in it this is really old news, the motivation behind it is ?

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Kenny on June 28, 2022, 8:54:48, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Prince Charles is known to have history of offering awards for money. He is not fit to be King and a bad example of a man.
We know he wouldnt personally handle the suitcase and bags of money as thats what his man servant is for. Money paid over in cases or bags is dodgy money . It's as Simple as that?

Re: Our future King.

Posted by John Niven on June 28, 2022, 10:03:42, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

As a republic we would have the same elected officials running the country, the Monarchy has no power to rule us. As a rule this country has far too many MP’s and elected officials all the way down the chain. Not to mention the over bloated House of Lords. A massive gravy train that needs pruned drastically.

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Sheila on June 28, 2022, 11:07:35, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Not a fan then, Kenny!

Re: Our future King.

Posted by Mac Cummings on June 28, 2022, 12:41:38, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Kenny.
Have you ever met the man or been in a meeting with him? I assume you have and also assume that you must have first hand insider knowledge which allows you to make these value judgements.
So all money in bags or suitcases is dodgy!! Is that correct?

Re: Our future King. - money in bags

Posted by Liz Dance on June 28, 2022, 14:07:47, in reply to "Re: Our future King."

Money in bags used to be quite common practice if you were a gambler, big time, in either London or down in Monte Carlo, in years gone by, maybe even up until just a few years ago, if you won in the Casino in Monte Carlo winnings were usually paid out in cash, usually in bundles of Euros 500 notes, it was the same for pay outs in the casinos in London except from there they were bundles of £50 notes.

Now it is the normal procedure down in Monte Carlo to remit funds into their bank account and the funds are held to your order whilst playing at the tables, any winnings are then paid into your ‘account’ held at the Casino and if required are then sent back to the original remitting bank, cash can be paid to individuals if required.

Re: Our future King. - money in bags-for LIZ

Posted by Mac Cummings on June 28, 2022, 16:18:57, in reply to "Re: Our future King. - money in bags"

My question of Kenny was re money in bags, of course, rhetorical!

Re: Our future King. - money in bags-for LIZ

Posted by geordieboy nc on June 28, 2022, 17:36:45, in reply to "Re: Our future King. - money in bags-for LIZ"

Usage of brown paper bags ( 1940 ish) There was a shop not to far from where I lived in Shields ., Three Brass Balls hanging out-side indicated what buisiness it was ., On a Monday morning there seemed to be a lot of coming and going , people taken brown bags into the shop coming out counting money , Friday it was reversed . PERHAPS not as much ligit cash changed hands as with the future King BUT a respectable use of brown paper bags . " A little humor to the topic " ps I also used one for my lunch .

From the horses trainer

Posted by steve on June 28, 2022, 18:20:56, in reply to "Re: Our future King. - money in bags-for LIZ"

Suitcases and bags of unaccounted for £millions is not the way businesses work in the UK.
As someone said Charles has history, but if you support royalty then keep turning a blind eye.
Todays news has this story,

The recent news that the prince accepted €3 million from Qatar’s former Prime Minister and billionaire Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani shows incredibly poor judgment given Qatar’s record on human rights.
The details of the donation also beggars belief. The Sunday Times revealed how Charles accepted a private delivery of plastic Fortnum & Mason shopping bags stuffed with €500 notes after meeting with the man London’s financial circles call “HBJ”.

During another private one-on-one meeting at Clarence House in 2015, Charles accepted a suitcase containing €1 million cash.

HBJ is also known as the “man who bought London” after he reportedly oversaw massive Qatari investment in major landmarks including Harrods, the Shard, London’s Olympic Village, No1 Hyde Park and the London Stock Exchange.

Though legal - and all the money went to Prince of Wales’s Charitable Fund - the incidents demonstrate a total lack of awareness of the way in which such deals were done. How can a senior royal believe accepting a suitcase of cash is a sensible way to fund a charity? Particularly one who already receives an income of £21 million a year from the Duchy of Cornwall to help fund his philanthropic endeavours. Isn’t that enough?

The news also comes in the shadow of an ongoing Metropolitan Police investigation into the fundraising practices of his foundation, after it was revealed last year that Charles’ right-hand man, Michael Fawcett, had offered to help a Saudi billionaire obtain a knighthood and give support for his British citizenship application in exchange for generous donations. Charles was not aware of the offer, according to Clarence House, yet it shows more poor judgement in relation to those he chooses as his closest aides.

The Prince of Wales’ popularity as a future king has always been mixed. His past infidelities, appalling treatment of Princess Diana, and questionable professional judgement has lost him support both in and outside of the palace.

The Platinum Jubilee year was a final chance for the Prince of Wales to turn some of that negativity around. But with rumours of more embarrassing revelations on the horizon (yes, the sources behind the most recent leaks claim to have more), Charles appears to have well and truly blown it.

Re: From the horses trainer

Posted by Sheila on June 28, 2022, 18:47:52, in reply to "From the horses trainer"

Steve, It appears this was first news in 2015 then again in 2021. Now here we are again. Yes certain groups are really trying to destroy the monarchy. It just don’t read or listen to them. I just think better what we have than what we might get as future Presidents.

Re: From the horses trainer

Posted by Mac Cummings on June 28, 2022, 19:00:00, in reply to "From the horses trainer"

Not turning a blind eye Steve just trying to deal with what I know..... not what I have read in the press often written with malice and/or the benefit of hindsight.
Those to the left are welcome to the perfect Rebublic for which they yearn.
OK Vladimir your subjects await you!!

Re: Our future King. - money in bags-for LIZ

Posted by Liz Dance on June 28, 2022, 18:30:47, in reply to "Re: Our future King. - money in bags-for LIZ"

OOPS!!!

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