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Cheap heating

Posted by Joseph on November 25, 2022, 15:41:22

Any one know what's happening to the heating scheme on the former Claps site, must've been some money spent on that, seems all abandoned there now.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Davy on November 25, 2022, 15:53:04, in reply to "Cheap heating"

Think They couldn't get a bore hole down deep enough so they have scrapped it, may as well kept the claps open Never mind brown envelopes all round.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Norman Dunn on November 25, 2022, 16:58:22, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

I asked one of the bosses a couple of weeks ago about the problem.
The reply was in a language used by boffins .
I deciphered it as follows.
They can get the water upto to the surface from the deepest seam but have problems with sediment blocking the pump. . They also have a problem reinjecting the water into a different seam closer to the surface. It sounds like they are trying to put water into a seam that is blocked off which is a bit like trying to put water into a barrel that's already full.
I made two suggestions as I worked with Pumps underground at Wardley.
At Seaham they are using mine water for heating but they pump the water directly into the sea after first removing the Iron Oxide. Not sure if we could remove the iron oxide here due to costs. If they can then the water could be put into the river.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by geordieboy ns on November 25, 2022, 17:24:37, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Sedement : Seems to be a universal problem , they tried to harness the 45' high tides here to generate electicity, every worked fine until sediment blocked the terbines . Haven't solved that problem so gave up on the Idea .

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Joseph on November 25, 2022, 17:55:51, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Would have thought there would have been some sort of feasibility study before spending millions of rate, tax, payers money, or was it just another councilors crazy scheme were money just grows on trees,

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Stan wears on November 25, 2022, 20:10:02, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Joseph this happens a lot in offshore drilling. It's called wildcatting and sometimes they end up with a dry well after drilling 17,000ft costing a mint!However GPR known as ground penetrating radar saves the day before they invest in drilling. I find it hard to digest that they didn't try it. Sometimes they use electrodes to shatter hard status so it would be interesting to find the reason it stopped.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Norman on November 25, 2022, 21:46:28, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

The heat from Mine Water scheme has hit a hiccup and will eventually be sorted.It isnt wasted money.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Joseph on November 25, 2022, 22:18:53, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Strange how all the machinery has been taken away, and just tons and tons of rubble left, but I'll bet someone's laughing all the way to the old bank.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Davy on November 25, 2022, 23:02:47, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Yes it is wasted money air sourced heat pumps will now be used instead

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by geordieboy ns on November 26, 2022, 3:15:39, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Davy ; dont know if we are talking about the same Heat Pumps BUT when bought our current house it was totaly heated with in-floor heating using an electric type heater to heat the fluids . Cost aproximately $2,400 every two months during the 7 month heating season . Switched totaly over to three Heat Pumps which I run year round Heating/Cooling bill dropped to aproximately $5, 000 for the year . Down side on a cloudy really cold day or night they havethere work cut out to extract exterior warm air . Supplement with a propane fireplace and sweater or two . Three years on Im satisfied with the transition .

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Mac Hardy on November 26, 2022, 11:05:32, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Heard from a good source that they were drilling in the wrong place, typical South Tyneside Council. The words “Couldn’t “ and “ Brewery” spring to mind.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Joseph on November 26, 2022, 13:25:22, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Even when people were fighting to save claps,the council knew all about this scheme, there excuse for knocking it down was delapidated building ,absolute rubish, now all you have is a few thousand ton of rubble which will cost thousands on top of what's already been spent. That's southtynside council for you.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Mac Cummings on November 26, 2022, 14:53:57, in reply to "Cheap heating"

Come on folks. I know that your local authority has a track record which you disagree with but maybe, this time, it would be worth looking at the scheme in the round.
This isnt a couple of blokes from ST doing some random drilling but the work is being carried out by Dunelm Geotechnical and Environmental Ltd and it is financed 50% by the European Regional Development Fund, in collaboration with the Coal Authority and Durham University.
There have been full project analyses and feasabilities but they never can predict what will be found as the actual work progresses.
The £3.5M or so that ST are contributing will seem just peanuts when and if the scheme is successful.
In the real world it is necessary to speculate to accumulate and the investment will almost certainly be better value for money than the millions spent on the sea front and cycles paths in S Shields.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Davy on November 26, 2022, 15:23:08, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Well maybe ST council could cough up another £3.5M and build another pub on the land claps was on not one pub left in hebburn Town centre disgrace.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by geordieboy ns on November 27, 2022, 4:00:24, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Mac Cummings ; While I totaly agree with you exploring a relatively new , but old idea , of extracting natural heat from disgarded caverns is well worth the cost , so is the money spent on one of the jems of the N/E South Shields ., On both counts money well spent and long overdue . Hopefully the first endeavor will not be disgarded.

Re: Cheap heating

Posted by Jerry T on November 28, 2022, 0:17:31, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

Geordieboy South Shields a North East gem !!
Are you on drugs or what,the place is the pits I bet your pleased you legged to Canada

Clapps for Davy

Posted by Mac Cummings on November 27, 2022, 10:55:21, in reply to "Re: Cheap heating"

I know that Clapps was a favourite haunt of yours Davy but nobody, not even the geniuses in local government, would build a pub in Hebburn in todays market!

Hebburn Mine Water Scheme update

Posted by Norman Dunn on November 28, 2022, 11:36:07, in reply to "Clapps for Davy"

I have been intouch with the Council department that are overseeing the Mine Water scheme this morning and asked for an update.
Here is the reply received within half an hour of asking.
As I said in my earlier post this is just a hiccup and it will get sorted.

We are currently assessing standing water tests in the boreholes. The drilling company has left site because this stage of their work is complete. It was always envisaged that heat for the network would be provided using a combination of water source (from mine water) and air source heat pumps. This is still the intention.

Re: Hebburn Mine Water Scheme update

Posted by Allan Campbell on November 28, 2022, 16:45:07, in reply to "Hebburn Mine Water Scheme update"

With all the mine workings under Hebburn it’s going to be a bit of a prototype. As Norman says some tunnels could be blocked off intentionally or by roof collapse.

They may not get the flow of water they wish for.

Hope it works. Allan C.

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