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A little history lesson from 1887
Posted by Norman Dunn on 21/10/2024, 16:02:27
As Allan Campbell said in a post below, defending the wealthy Ellison Family living in luxury at Hebburn Hall or their rural Hedgeley Hall in Northumberland 'In mining communities this was what life was like'. Thankfully we had generous people like Mr Roy prepared to use their own money to help the poor.
Norman there you go twisting things about a bit, that’s not what I wrote
You have picked out the Ellison family but what about Andrew Leslie owning the houses his worked lived in and the other landlords that provided housing for more Leslie workers.
I would anticipate that all of A. Leslie’s properties would be well managed but those owned by others ? Who knows.
Unfortunately way back then that was the way things were and not good by todays standards.
The Ellison’s sold or leased land to other parties they would have no control over what went on in the various industries.
Was I defending the Carr Ellisons, I think not, they did nothing wrong for me to defend them about. What is wrong about being wealthy? If earned properly.
They gave land to build Churches and you could assume that they gave other things for welfare of Hebburn inhabitant's.
In all this you have to take into account what was done in their name by the estate managers and managers of the various industries.
By the way the Carr Ellison family got their wealth as Merchants starting back in the 1500’s if I read the info on the internet correctly and of course Owning the land in Hebburn added to it.
If I remember the CarrEllison family left Hebburn in 1870 but retained a lot of land.
As for the article about Mr Roy the Carr Ellisons had left Hebburn 17 years before. So any contribution or not would be by their land agents and people would probably never hear or know about it, depending on the politics at the time.
Regarding coal mines,. One of my G. G/Fathers was a pit shanker Digging the mine shafts, at least 5 according to the Census and birth records of his children all around the Glasgow area between 1854 and 1885 ish so he must have been a skilled man.
Of my 4 family killed in 1835 pit disaster I have not as yet been able to find out what their life was like as before records were kept as there are only a few reports about those times.
In a few weeks time we will find out what certain people do to others (10M of them) so that pails into insignificance things that went on in the past.
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