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WW3

Posted by ricky on 12/12/2025, 2:53 pm

I'm reading World War 3 is imminent and we have to prepare. Seen the image below but it does'nt give any information on what we have to do. Do I dig out my grandfathers Home Guard uniform? What about weapons? .......I think the only thing were allowed to own now is a catapult. Is it worth putting the Christmas tree up?

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Norman on 12/12/2025, 5:06 pm, in reply to "WW3"

Wars are always caused by the people who run Governments. You could have a holiday in places like China & Russia & find their people helpful & friendly towards us. Governments are the problem.
Our so called leaders should go out of the way and make friends with Russia. Common sense isnt it?
Russia has became an enemy because when NATO was created after WW2 Russia was excluded which obviously upset them and we cant blame them. Why was that because no one wants to be excluded from a club.
Putin has nothing to lose so it would definitely end up with Nuclear Weapons.

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by George on 12/12/2025, 10:49 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion"

Norman, you are absolutely correct. Russia may not be the democratic country we think the UK is but we owe so much to the Russian people who lost so much during ww2. Russia lost its way when the USSR was disbanded and replaced by the west with NATO. Now surrounded not with a series of buffer countries but a potential enemy on their doorstep of course they are worried. We may have sympathy with Ukraine but let us not forget that country WAS allied with Germany during WW2. That country was in support of the Nazis when Britain stood alone. I dont think Russia has ever attacked Great Britain, France or Germany. I am certain that the reverse is not true. I hope I don't come across as a communist lover. I am not, politics and I move in different directions. However, truth is something our present government doesn't respect. Unfortunately, this can be said for most politicians.

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Colin Thompson on 13/12/2025, 11:54 am, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Wow!!! I have no words.!!

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Ken Turpin on 13/12/2025, 12:08 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

I believe that Berwick on Tweed is still at war with Russia due to being omitted from the Crimean peace treaty

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Colin Thompson on 13/12/2025, 1:40 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Can somebody explain to me exactly what is wrong with NATO being on Russian doorstep. - - four years ago it was proved to be necessary but too late

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Sheila on 13/12/2025, 1:30 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "
Edited by board administrator 13/12/2025, 3:50 pm

I have sympathy for the Russian people but not Putin. When the Soviet Union fell and the Berlin Wall came down. The Russian then in charge, Mikhail Gorbachev really offered friendship with the West, but the U.S.A. was never friendly and never trusted the Russians . Putin has lived with this and as I see it being ex KGB he doesn’t trust the West. The Ukrainians democracy voted for a leader, but was ousted by the current leader who immediately wanted to join the Eu and allowed NATO to be on Russias doorstep. I’m no fan of Putin, just saying the facts as have been in the news since the Ukraine and Russia went to war.

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Norman on 13/12/2025, 4:25 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

NATO stupidly treated Russia as an enemy by allowing 30 odd other countries to become Nato members
Why did they do that to a country that was part of the 'Grand Alliance' (America, GB & Russia) fighting Hitler's Nazi Germany.
NATO should never have done that

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Sheila on 13/12/2025, 5:43 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Colin,I assume Russia was not happy with yet another NATO country on its doorstep, Norway, Finland and Poland I believe. The Ukraine were asking for trouble as they knew it would upset Russia.
Norman, I agree with you, they were just pushing to far.

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Malcolm on 13/12/2025, 11:44 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Well, Norman, there's a saying that sometimes, memories may vary.
As you know, after WWII, Europe was occupied by the British/American/Russian forces. Let's ignore the French for the moment.

The "short" version was (as agreed at the Yalta Convention) that the military would provide stability and aid, whilst the former countries got on their feet, elected democratically elected governments, and eventually stand on their own feet.
After May 1945, the Russians immediatley renaged on that agreement, and formed the Warsaw Pact, effectively "keeping" all of the countries that they over-ran during the war; Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Checkeslovakia and others.

A MASSIVE force...

The reaction from the west was to form NATO in April 1949, as a DEFENSIVE force.

Now WHY would you invite Russia to join that "club" as you call it? When it was formed as a defence to the Warsaw Pact?

Remember, it was RUSSIA that didn't allow free elections & democracy in the countries that they over-ran, whereas the UK/USA supported & encouraged these countries to form governments.

After all, wasn't that the point of WWII?
To
A} Stop us being invaded and
B) To then free Europe from oppression, and give independance to each country.

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Colin Thompson on 14/12/2025, 12:07 am, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Thank you Malcolm

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Sheila on 14/12/2025, 9:50 am, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Malcolm, as you say memories may very. Colin obviously likes your version best. 😀 you will need to read a lot of history about the East European states. At the time it was called the Soviet Union, lots of Eastern European countries. the Soviet Union were given concessions for helping to defeat Japan, but I’m not going into that🙄

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Norman on 14/12/2025, 10:47 am, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Thanks for yourmuch more accurate run down of what happened after WW2 Malcolm.

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Malcolm on 14/12/2025, 5:45 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Sheila, not a matter of "my version", what I stated was FACT, about the Warsaw Pact, and the subsequent formation of NATO, to DEFEND the west.

And don't forget the Russians erecting the Berlin Wall, trying to force the US/GB/French out of Berlin.
Again, against the agreement that all 4 nations would govern Berlin, in the interim. But no, the Russians wanted it all, but didn't count on the "Berlin Airlift" and the willingness of NATO to support the people of West Berlin, as per the agreement.
And I am well versed with the Soviet Union, Sheila, as I served with NATO forces throughout the 1970's-80's, and was well briefed as to what they were capable of....

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Sheila on 14/12/2025, 7:22 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Oh dear Malcolm, your post makes me think, as you were there in the 1970/80s. I won’t believe the history books, sorry folks ignore my post.

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Colin Thompson on 14/12/2025, 7:27 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

And don't forget Russia was on the side of
Germany at the start of WW2 but changed sides after a disagreement about dividing the spoils of war so not to be trusted

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Sheila on 17/12/2025, 8:38 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Sorry late with a reply. I thought Russia was neutrally, until Germany invaded Russia in June 1941. My father was on a Russian convoy but became ill and was off loaded to a hospital in Iceland until, he was well enough to return to England.

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Malcolm on 19/12/2025, 3:05 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Pretty close, Sheila. Russia & Germany (Hitler) signed a Non-aggression agreement, in the late 30's.

So not strictly neutral, but planned to divi-up Poland between them.... we know what happened next!!

Re: WW3 my opinion

Posted by Sheila on 19/12/2025, 9:36 pm, in reply to "Re: WW3 my opinion "

Yes Malcolm, the poor Polish people suffered for many years. With the Germans first then the Russians. Sadly any Polish Jews who managed to be alive from the concentration camps and got back to their homes in Poland, were once more driven out by the Polish people then living in the Jewish homes. Always difficult behaviour from desperate people.

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