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"ALL politicians are guilty of corruption". - DFM.. care to elaborate?

Posted by scott on April 2, 2025, 8:46 am

Just bringing your statement over to the "ethical" board for a bit of enhancement...

Care to give some statistics or conversation about this here.. and hopefully not some YouTube post...

What has been your experience with politicians you know or have known?

If politicians are corrupt so too would be the justice systems scattered among the various states

Posted by GOG on April 5, 2025, 10:10 am, in reply to ""ALL politicians are guilty of corruption". - DFM.. care to elaborate?"

and local courts and prosecutors. I’m fully focused on the Idaho 4 Kohberger frame up. Mine eyes are now opened to prosecutorial misconduct of the worse sort. And have to rightly extrapolate this miscarriage of justice throughout corrupt Babylon’s justice system from the Feds to the lowly county courts. Of course law enforcement plays a significant role in the sleaze. Politicians control the top. The trickle down is their responsibility. Vetdict? GUILTY.

“may be” is not the same as “will be” or “are”.

Posted by observer on April 2, 2025, 12:27 pm, in reply to ""ALL politicians are guilty of corruption". - DFM.. care to elaborate?"

ALL "campaign contributions" are BRIBES and may be used to solicit favorable treatment.

Posted by DFM on April 2, 2025, 11:17 am, in reply to ""ALL politicians are guilty of corruption". - DFM.. care to elaborate?"

By your definition, so is giving to charities then, correct?

Posted by scott on April 2, 2025, 1:11 pm, in reply to "ALL "campaign contributions" are BRIBES and may be used to solicit favorable treatment."

Not convinced by your brevity...

What would one be expecting in return from a charity?

Posted by 7:77 on April 3, 2025, 2:07 am, in reply to "By your definition, so is giving to charities then, correct?"

A key difference, I'd think...

depends on who's running the show, imho

Posted by scott on April 3, 2025, 8:48 am, in reply to "What would one be expecting in return from a charity?"

As an example, in today's news.. are the people getting rich running NGO's. While all charities can be considered NGOs, not all NGOs are charities. It depends on their mission and methods. And the increasing evidence of how politicians are getting wealthy these days is ever growing, right?

But many others have also been in the news for dubious purposes:

There are other types of groups and organizations that operate similarly to charities or NGOs, aiming to serve social, environmental, or humanitarian causes.

Here are some examples:

**Foundations**: These are organizations funded by a specific individual, family, or corporation. They often focus on grant-making to support various causes, such as education, healthcare, or the arts. Examples include the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Isn't this one trying to use vaccinations for population control?

**Social Enterprises**: These are businesses that prioritize social or environmental goals over profit. They often reinvest their profits into the causes they support, such as providing community services or funding sustainability initiatives. However somehow those funds find their way into those running the projects, pockets.

**Community-Based Organizations (CBOs) **Advocacy Groups**, **Cooperatives**, and yes even **Faith-Based Organizations**: These groups often operate with similar goals to charities, and it's never long before the audit things appear sideways in their finances.

All this and yet... churches are the targets of most media outlets. Whatever happened to doing good for goodness' sake?

Giving to politicians is bribery. NOT to charities.

Posted by DFM on April 2, 2025, 6:35 pm, in reply to "By your definition, so is giving to charities then, correct?"

You are saying that supporting someone is bribery.

Posted by observer on April 5, 2025, 9:44 am, in reply to "Giving to politicians is bribery. NOT to charities."

So that would have to mean that you believe all are corrupt. Who are you? God? He in fact is considerably more charitable than you.
True we are all sinners, but not necessarily totally corruptible.
I find your views on other humans- you seem to think most are dumb - very sad, a projection of sorts. I feel sorry for the misery you seem to live with.

yeah.. .just like posting YouTube vids make them truth...

Posted by scott on April 3, 2025, 10:57 am, in reply to "Giving to politicians is bribery. NOT to charities."

**On Your Feet, Inc.**: This charity, which claimed to assist low-income families, was found to have sold donated goods for profit. The founders used the proceeds for personal expenses and evaded taxes.

**Feed the Children**: Allegations of financial misconduct and lawsuits led to investigations into this organization. It underwent significant restructuring after these events.

**Wounded Warrior Project**: In 2016, it was revealed that the organization spent millions on luxury conferences, with only 60% of funds reaching injured veterans. Public outrage led to the firing of top executives and a complete overhaul of spending policies.

**Angel Food Ministries**: This Christian food charity misused donations to fund luxury lifestyles for its founders, including private planes and vacation homes. The organization declared bankruptcy after FBI raids exposed financial crimes.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/charity-founders-sentenced-prison-using-non-profit-steal-donors-and-cheat-their-taxes

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/charity-founders-plead-guilty-using-non-profit-defraud-donors-and-illegally-evade-taxes

https://onlyearthlings.com/15-beloved-charities-caught-in-major-scandals/

The last one lists around 15 "charities".. go figure eh?

uh huh...hard to say you just don't know, isn't it.

Posted by scott on April 4, 2025, 2:44 pm, in reply to "yeah.. .just like posting YouTube vids make them truth..."

I gave you a list of 15 "real" charities...

Moneys donated to REAL charities are not bribes.

Posted by DFM on April 4, 2025, 9:25 am, in reply to "yeah.. .just like posting YouTube vids make them truth..."

Re: By your definition, so is giving to charities then, correct?

Posted by Christopher Blackwell on April 2, 2025, 5:20 pm, in reply to "By your definition, so is giving to charities then, correct?"

Scott, an election campaign is very expensive, no one gives large sums of money without expecting something back. Despite the salaries in Congress, the average congressman wealth increased by 1.5 million dollars a year. That does not come from their salaries.

no, it certainly does not Chris.

Posted by scott on April 2, 2025, 11:07 pm, in reply to "Re: By your definition, so is giving to charities then, correct?"

I give directly, not to chariety.

Posted by Christopher Blackwell on April 3, 2025, 12:31 pm, in reply to "no, it certainly does not Chris. "

Scott, studies of charities are interesting. Some of them actually use up most of their donations in operation costs, including rather surprising salaries for their CEOs and Board of Directors, leaving surprisingly small percentage of their donated money for their alleged charity purpose.

Being rather poor, I have limits on what I donate, and I rather donate directly to a person who needs it. Rule of thump don't embarrass the person you are helping. If being helped, don't make the donor wish he or she had not helped.

that's good advice...I do the same...

Posted by scott on April 3, 2025, 1:54 pm, in reply to "I give directly, not to chariety."

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