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Religion and Ethics and Health BBS
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Reasons for US falling behind in education ...

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on February 4, 2026, 12:56 pm

... The core subjects, reading, science, math & history have been kicked under the laughing hyena's proverbial yellow school bus.

US Dept of Education (USED) has been a total failure. $82 Billion a year wasted by hundreds of idiots housed in an ugly, architecturally-repugnant box in DC:

Teachers' unions have diminished the zeal and focus of educators.

Uncontrolled immigration has taken a toll on education.

Teaching woke shit like the following rots the brain:

The term "woke" in the context of K-12 education is a, largely, conservative-led critique of, specifically, public schools for integrating topics related to social justice, critical race theory, gender ideology, and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) into the curriculum. Supporters of these topics often refer to them as "culturally responsive teaching" or "social-emotional learning" (SEL) aimed at creating an inclusive environment, while critics argue it constitutes political indoctrination and diverts from core academics.

Common Subjects and Themes Identified as "Woke":

Gender Identity and Sexuality: Instruction on gender ideology for young students, the use of gender-neutral titles like "Mx.", and the affirmation of preferred pronouns.

Critical Race Theory (CRT) & Racial Equity: Discussions on "white fragility," systemic racism, and "anti-racism" that aim to deconstruct "colorblindness".

Comprehensive Sexuality Education (CSE): Curriculum that may include topics on gender fluidity,, and sexual orientation, sometimes introduced in elementary school.

Social-Emotional Learning (SEL) & Anti-Bias Training: Often includes "culturally responsive" lessons that may encourage students to identify their social backgrounds based on race, sex, or sexual orientation.

"Woke" Literature: Use of picture books covering gender ideology or books featuring LGBTQ+ themes in early elementary school.

DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion): Efforts to prioritize equity over meritocracy, such as removing standardized testing or altering advanced, accelerated classes.

PROOF:

In the 45 year reign of USED (yes, we have been used), America has slid from #1 rank to #34.

Pathetic.

See for yourself

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Mondo Fuego™, Preferred pronoun: "Sir".

Yes, woke go stupid. Abolish US Department of Education. And DEI.

Posted by GOG on February 14, 2026, 4:14 pm, in reply to "Reasons for US falling behind in education ..."

Oklahoma, massive decline in education cased exactly what you say they need.

Posted by Inscrutable on February 9, 2026, 4:51 pm, in reply to "Reasons for US falling behind in education ..."

Not surprising you have it all wrong. Is there a Trump supporter that is ever right about anything?

Well, that's a really convincing argument, Einstein.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on February 11, 2026, 8:21 pm, in reply to "Oklahoma, massive decline in education cased exactly what you say they need."

Did you complete the 3rd grade?

'caused'.

Posted by Inscrutable on February 9, 2026, 4:52 pm, in reply to "Oklahoma, massive decline in education cased exactly what you say they need."

Fat fingers.

Re: Reasons for US falling behind in education ...

Posted by scott on February 8, 2026, 6:49 pm, in reply to "Reasons for US falling behind in education ..."

The god of this world is more entertaining to those choosing to stay lost than truth.

Dumbing Down of Curiculum to Make Things Easy

Posted by DFM on February 5, 2026, 2:34 pm, in reply to "Reasons for US falling behind in education ..."

Thanks to idiot "educators".

Religious fundamentalism

Posted by Azriel on February 5, 2026, 7:54 am, in reply to "Reasons for US falling behind in education ..."

How so? I did not know that religious people were opposed to basic courses

Posted by DFM on February 5, 2026, 1:18 pm, in reply to "Religious fundamentalism"

such as English, Math, Chemistry, Geography.

Would you please post a link or two supporting your thesis?

How about biology and history....two subjects that Christians strive to corrupt?

Posted by KR on February 5, 2026, 1:37 pm, in reply to "How so? I did not know that religious people were opposed to basic courses"

NOT happening.

Posted by DFM on February 6, 2026, 5:41 am, in reply to "How about biology and history....two subjects that Christians strive to corrupt?"

Of course it is. Look at Oklahoma for example.

Posted by Inscrutable on February 9, 2026, 4:54 pm, in reply to "NOT happening."

They have pretty much destroyed public education.

Post a link.

Posted by DFM on February 10, 2026, 9:26 am, in reply to "Of course it is. Look at Oklahoma for example."

How so, Einstein? Don't leave us with your Sphynxian riddles.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on February 5, 2026, 7:55 pm, in reply to "How about biology and history....two subjects that Christians strive to corrupt?"

The most obvious being an their attempt to stop the teaching of human evolution.

Posted by KR on February 6, 2026, 11:56 am, in reply to "How so, Einstein? Don't leave us with your Sphynxian riddles."

WTF does evolution have to do with reading, math and virtually all of science?

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on February 11, 2026, 8:24 pm, in reply to "The most obvious being an their attempt to stop the teaching of human evolution."

Neanderthal-brain.

No, a return to teaching both versions of creation.

Posted by observer on February 7, 2026, 9:40 am, in reply to "The most obvious being an their attempt to stop the teaching of human evolution."

Always teaching various ideas and theories, not a single limited mind set, ideally encouraging students HOW to think rationally, not WHAT to think.

Sorry, there is only ONE version of creation that fits scientific data.

Posted by DFM on February 15, 2026, 9:41 am, in reply to "No, a return to teaching both versions of creation."

Fairy tales like creation have no business in schools.

Posted by KR on February 7, 2026, 3:35 pm, in reply to "No, a return to teaching both versions of creation."

They are obsolete, completely fictional, and only believed in by the pathetically ignorant.

Accepted for what they are, creation myths are a wonderful example

Posted by Mugwump on February 7, 2026, 4:27 pm, in reply to "Fairy tales like creation have no business in schools."

of how magnificent the human imagination can be.

some are incredibly beautiful, rich in poetic imagry

Posted by Trish on February 9, 2026, 4:16 pm, in reply to "Accepted for what they are, creation myths are a wonderful example"

You mean hundreds (perhaps thousands) of versions.

Posted by trish on February 7, 2026, 2:19 pm, in reply to "No, a return to teaching both versions of creation."

Evidently nothing counts beyond the minute world of the religious bigot.

Posted by Mugwump on February 7, 2026, 3:46 pm, in reply to "You mean hundreds (perhaps thousands) of versions."

No matter how many untruths and distortions it takes to justify that bigotry.

well you certainly just described yourself well

Posted by trish on February 16, 2026, 6:46 am, in reply to "Evidently nothing counts beyond the minute world of the religious bigot."

Our schools taught two.

Posted by observer on February 7, 2026, 2:30 pm, in reply to "You mean hundreds (perhaps thousands) of versions."

The unorthodox did not prevail.

that's too bad. You missed out on a lot of richness

Posted by trish on February 7, 2026, 2:40 pm, in reply to "Our schools taught two."

and to those that follow them, it is NOT unorthodox. It is part of their sacred texts, mythology, etc.

Just like yours.

Your assumptions mislead you.

Posted by observe on February 7, 2026, 2:42 pm, in reply to "that's too bad. You missed out on a lot of richness"

so are you saying you HAVE studied other religions?

Posted by trish on February 8, 2026, 7:03 am, in reply to "Your assumptions mislead you."

more likely saying

Posted by scott on February 8, 2026, 6:47 pm, in reply to "so are you saying you HAVE studied other religions? "

for all your "study" you haven't found one.

Jesus is always there just the same... Considering our calendar was developed around his arrival... He's still a date you need to find in yours.

Jes sayin

Since you do not follow the tenets of Jesus?

Posted by Inscrutable on February 9, 2026, 4:56 pm, in reply to "more likely saying"

As anardent defender of Donald J.Trump, convicted felon an serial sexual predator, I personally think you're evil. Convince me otherwise.

As if it matters what you think.

Posted by observer on February 12, 2026, 9:53 am, in reply to "Since you do not follow the tenets of Jesus?"

You and your type don’t think, which is our nation’s biggest problem.

Posted by KR on February 14, 2026, 5:40 pm, in reply to "As if it matters what you think."

I have found one. Paganism, Wicca. (oh, and the calendar)

Posted by trish on February 9, 2026, 7:38 am, in reply to "more likely saying"

did you forget so soon?

The calendar was primarily changed to correct a slow, accumulated drift between the calendar year and the solar year, which caused seasonal events like the spring equinox to occur on the wrong date. The Gregorian calendar (1582) was introduced to fix the Julian calendar's 11-minute-per-year inaccuracy,

Lack of

Posted by observer on February 5, 2026, 8:21 am, in reply to "Religious fundamentalism"

is a primary reason for all of what ails this country.

Religious fundamentalism is the polar opposite of education, especially when it comes to science.

Posted by KR on February 5, 2026, 9:28 am, in reply to "Lack of"

No branch of knowledge is mutually exclusive.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on February 6, 2026, 6:50 am, in reply to "Religious fundamentalism is the polar opposite of education, especially when it comes to science."

There are super religious scientists and educators in every field.

You are the dunce.

Religion isn’t knowledge. It is fiction.

Posted by KR on February 8, 2026, 6:18 pm, in reply to "No branch of knowledge is mutually exclusive."

Much of literature is fiction, asshat.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on February 11, 2026, 8:26 pm, in reply to "Religion isn’t knowledge. It is fiction."

STFU and learn.

Did you attempt to make a point there or are you just senile babbling again.

Posted by KR on February 14, 2026, 5:39 pm, in reply to "Much of literature is fiction, asshat."

Either way, piss off.

as you can imagine

Posted by trish on February 5, 2026, 8:46 am, in reply to "Lack of"

I wholeheartedly disagree with this, because when you say "fundamentalism," you mean YOUR fundamentalism.

Historically speaking, religion has mucked up far more than it has ever fixed.

Historically, in the United States

Posted by observer on February 7, 2026, 11:30 am, in reply to "as you can imagine "

religious influence has been Judeo Christian with all of the positive contributions to Western Civilization, including, law, education, hospitals et al. Hardly a mucked up resume.

Western Civilization is not simply the US and it is not a single thread

Posted by trish on February 8, 2026, 7:08 am, in reply to "Historically, in the United States"

it's a tapestry of positive contributions

Its strength comes from:

Greek reason

Roman law

Jewish ethics

Islamic science

Persian moral philosophy

Eastern psychological insight

Together, these traditions fostered:

Individual dignity

Rule of law

Scientific inquiry

Moral accountability

Religion has had zero positive influence on our civilization.

Posted by KR on February 7, 2026, 3:39 pm, in reply to "Historically, in the United States"

It is for the weak and ignorant.

No, math, science, reading, history and the arts should be the only things taught.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on February 5, 2026, 7:57 pm, in reply to "as you can imagine "

Religion is for church.

Religion is history!

Posted by observer on February 6, 2026, 12:38 pm, in reply to "No, math, science, reading, history and the arts should be the only things taught."

It's all in how you teach religious history.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on February 8, 2026, 3:12 pm, in reply to "Religion is history!"

The emphasis should be descriptive, not evaluative and personalized. Never indoctrinated in educational setting.

Same for sex education ... just describe the cis elements and leave out the LGBTQ shit.

then ALL religion or none at all

Posted by trish on February 7, 2026, 2:17 pm, in reply to "Religion is history!"

Those that are relevant to Western Civilization.

Posted by observer on February 7, 2026, 2:31 pm, in reply to "then ALL religion or none at all"

People of all faith live her now. And how about Native American

Posted by trish on February 7, 2026, 2:41 pm, in reply to "Those that are relevant to Western Civilization."

let's start there.

Focus: our history, our culture, our foundational documents!

Posted by observer on February 7, 2026, 2:43 pm, in reply to "People of all faith live her now. And how about Native American"

Our history begins with the Native Americans or did you forget that

Posted by trish on February 8, 2026, 7:04 am, in reply to "Focus: our history, our culture, our foundational documents!"

You seem to live your small little ignorant world.

Posted by KR on February 7, 2026, 3:37 pm, in reply to "Focus: our history, our culture, our foundational documents!"

It is because you are a small ignorant person.

The smallest world is yours, the kingdom of ad hominems!

Posted by onserver on February 7, 2026, 7:34 pm, in reply to "You seem to live your small little ignorant world."

on that we agree

Posted by trish on February 6, 2026, 8:44 am, in reply to "No, math, science, reading, history and the arts should be the only things taught."

Teaching the inaccuracies of religion should be mandatory in all public schools.

Posted by KR on February 5, 2026, 9:34 am, in reply to "as you can imagine "

Another problem is the desire of many parents for carbon copies

Posted by Mugwump on February 5, 2026, 12:42 pm, in reply to "Teaching the inaccuracies of religion should be mandatory in all public schools."

of themselves to be created by a system that is supposed to encourage free thought, investigation and evaluation.

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