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If you are Caucasian you are a direct descendant of Noah’s grandson, Japheth.

Posted by GOG on June 3, 2026, 12:29 pm

Japheth migrated to Europe.

The Bible is inerrant.

Posted by GOG on June 3, 2026, 4:25 pm, in reply to "If you are Caucasian you are a direct descendant of Noah’s grandson, Japheth."

If one accepts the record as listed, my comment is the truth. I’m related to Noah. Everything seems to you to be a myth. CHEMTRAILS FOREVER!!

How come maternal lineage is rarely mentioned?

Posted by Cheap Seats Shaman *= on June 7, 2026, 10:16 am, in reply to "The Bible is inerrant. "

How long ago was this supposed "Great Flood" of Noah?

(or is this knowledge unobtainable?)

...said no informed person, ever.

Posted by 7:77 on June 4, 2026, 11:14 am, in reply to "The Bible is inerrant. "

The Bible is rife with demonstrable errors. From observable inaccuracies in depiction of the physical world (geocentric universe: Psalm 93:1, Joshua 10:12-13) to internal contradictions (death of Judas: Matthew 27:5 vs Acts 1:18) to historical errors (fall of Jericho, census of Quirinius, etc.), inaccuracies abound.

Only to those who are nit pickers.

Posted by GOG on June 5, 2026, 6:16 am, in reply to "...said no informed person, ever."

I bet there are errors in every publication. Unfactual mistakes. One certainty imho, the proof of the inerrancy, is light, life, and existence. I’ve never dissected the Constitution but assume there are mistakes. People read the NYT as if it’s the Bible. And believe every word. So, cut some slack for that which is the best selling publication of all times.

I don't disagree. But "inerrant" is an absolute.

Posted by 7:77 on June 6, 2026, 10:10 am, in reply to "Only to those who are nit pickers. "

And it's absolutely inapplicable in this case.

Absolutely applicable as a cohesive unit of all chapters and verse,

Posted by GOG on June 6, 2026, 11:19 am, in reply to "I don't disagree. But "inerrant" is an absolute."

both OT and NT, the message, the overarching theme, the pathway of human civilization to our era, the return of Israel, and a looming madman about to insert the final blasting cap into the global critical mass, I have to say again (under context) that the Bible is inerrant. Lord of the Rings is a late bloomer, no different than Islam’s thefts from Judaism and Christianity. Of course the meteorite is a dead stone and offers no redemptive salvation. Flesh sacrificed was God’s plan. Can anyone argue that humanity is not in need, indeed desperate, for salvation? I’ll stick with inerrant.

That requires considerable subjectivity.

Posted by 7:77 on June 6, 2026, 11:44 am, in reply to "Absolutely applicable as a cohesive unit of all chapters and verse, "

Deciding what is and is not of sufficient import to matter in the determination of inerrancy required introducing subjectivity. On a purely objective basis, a single inaccuracy falsifies any claim of inerrancy.

Sorry hit the wrong key. Read this post instead.

Posted by Maverick on June 5, 2026, 7:55 am, in reply to "Only to those who are nit pickers. "

Inerrant means just that. The Bible is suppose to be God's word, inspired by Mr. Perfect. Perfect doesn't make mistakes. There are a boat load of errors in the Bible. Too many to give it a pass.

Now if you were to tell me that the Bible was written by many different people and the reason that there are errors is because its what those people believed, no God involved in its writing, I could go for that. But regardless who wrote it inerrant is the claim.

The Constitution was created and written by flawed humans. As awesome as that document is, flaws are still expected. I don't recall anyone claiming its inerrant. The news media hasn't a clue how to tell truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The NYT is no exception. Your post comes off as a dodge to me.

Back to the Bible. Inerrant is the claim. Excuses is the game. Do not pass go, do not collect your $200.00.

The message, the theme, the future, yes inerrant.

Posted by GOG on June 6, 2026, 4:59 am, in reply to "Sorry hit the wrong key. Read this post instead."

It’s a whole. And the nit pickers miss that truth. For all its warts, Israel is resurrected. That one event in 1948 is the wake up call. That is the reset, harbinger, and makes the whole inerrant. Given the ancient age and multiple translations, it’s a miracle the Book exists at all. It’s not unlike a Hollywood movie. A great movie, captures the imagination, but has a few flaws. Who would not go see a blockbuster because of a few bloopers? The problem for many is the supernatural quality of the imports makes many uncomfortable. Disbelievers.

The devil is in the details.

Posted by Maverick on June 6, 2026, 9:02 am, in reply to "The message, the theme, the future, yes inerrant. "

Don't mind the goofs, as long as the message is a good one, eh? Don't mind the fine print of the contract, then, its the overall agreement that counts. Blockbuster movies are produced by flawed humans. Bloopers can be real funny sometimes. Besides, its entertainment. I don't think the purpose of the Bible is to entertain. It's suppose to be the word of a perfect God. Surely he can inspire no less than perfection. Moral codes and lessons are supposed to be contained therein. Is he really OK with mistakes? Why would he tolerate his word being mucked up with imperfections from us humans? Surely he can snap his fingers, correct the goofs and ensure that his untainted word is delivered. That way humans have no excuses for misunderstandings. Hell he doesn't even need humans to do any of the writing for him. After all, he carved the commandments on stone. Papyrus should be a breeze for him. Or was it animal hides? Well certainly not a challenge for him whatever it was.

Oh yes, the chosen people, the Jews. God must have really loved them to drown them all including their babies save Noah & Co. And what was Noah's fate? At 600 years old or thereabouts he was commanded to build a massive ship. Of course God could have snapped his fingers and poof! An Ark is ready to set sail. But nope, he had an old geezer do it. Not only that but Noah had to clean out all the animals stalls. Trapped on a boat for a long time in terrible weather with a bunch of confined animals and all that work.

Look at Israel today. Not exactly a popular nation with its neighbors. Pretty much surrounded by enemies. Chosen people? I am very happy to be unchosen.

God created you. Did God goof?

Posted by GOG on June 6, 2026, 11:46 am, in reply to "The devil is in the details."

Oh wait, life on earth evolved? That too requires a Creative Spirit. Why would God allow the Holocaust? Human salvation is being worked out. The Jews have the starring role. Indeed it’s their stage. And God is the Producer. The big picture is made of connected parts, a thread that ties it all together. Like a Broadway play. Yes, Israel is surrounded. That is a Bible prophesy. You don’t realize the why for what, how and when. The US has allowed Zionists to capture her, a bull with a nose ring, we too are surrounded by her enemies, as well as traditional foes, and recently our allies. Indeed, they are here in Babylon having come under the gate (border). Israel will rise like a Phoenix. The US will not. That is a central prophesy for our time. The Trump-et is soon to blow. God’s Word will be heard throughout the nations. PS: I no longer judge God. Long time ago. But the tie that binds cannot be judged. Not even the nits.

Re: God created you. Did God goof?

Posted by Maverick on June 6, 2026, 4:01 pm, in reply to "God created you. Did God goof?"

"God created you." Unproven. A belief. I don't hold it.

"Did God goof?" You tell me.

No excuses.

Posted by Maverick on June 5, 2026, 7:43 am, in reply to "Only to those who are nit pickers. "

How come you didn't inherit his longevity genes?

Posted by Cheap Seats Shaman *= on June 4, 2026, 8:11 am, in reply to "The Bible is inerrant. "

Isn't he one of those mythological characters in your book who lived for hundreds of years?

Alcohol and cheap food. Polluted air. Tobacco. Chemtrails.

Posted by GOG on June 4, 2026, 10:14 am, in reply to "How come you didn't inherit his longevity genes?"

It’s my fault I’m only in my 82nd year.

As opposed to the pristine conditions during pre-historic biblical times?

Posted by Cheap Seats Shaman *= on June 4, 2026, 10:41 am, in reply to "Alcohol and cheap food. Polluted air. Tobacco. Chemtrails. "

I'd love to see the evidence of longevity back then, especially when archeology has shown that to live to be 60 was rare. 30-40 was the norm.

Archaeology is a Victorian contrivance.

Posted by GOG on June 5, 2026, 6:29 am, in reply to "As opposed to the pristine conditions during pre-historic biblical times?"

Euro-centric cosmology. The foundation for a house of cards. It’s antiquated. Outdated. A bunch of tight asses constricting truths that now are coming to light. Did they know about the Ice Age civilizations? Or the recent Amazon discoveries. How about my post and vid about the astounding Giza Shaft? Those 18 ton black granite coffins at the bottom arranged in niches. We debased our bodies and our minds not to mention corruption of the soul. I’m not so sure about alledged shorter life spans in antiquity.

And your holy texts are a prehistoric contrivance...

Posted by Cheap Seats Shaman *= on June 5, 2026, 9:06 am, in reply to "Archaeology is a Victorian contrivance."

...written by men in an attempt to explain that which they could not understand.

The texts remain holy.

Posted by GOG on June 6, 2026, 5:02 am, in reply to "And your holy texts are a prehistoric contrivance..."

Unlike the New York Times, and much of what passes for truth nowadays.

Posting to yourself?

Posted by Maverick on June 3, 2026, 8:21 pm, in reply to "The Bible is inerrant. "

Contrails yes, chemtrails no.

Noah, the Ark, a worldwide flood, no. Some dude, maybe his wife and kids (if he liked them), a small animal here and there, a local flood, an unimpressive boat, maybe. A made up story from start to finish, could be.

We're all descended from somebody. Nothing noteworthy there.

No. Was meant for DFM.

Posted by GOG on June 4, 2026, 10:15 am, in reply to "Posting to yourself?"

CHEMTRAILS are demonstrably FALSE.

Posted by DFM on June 3, 2026, 7:44 pm, in reply to "The Bible is inerrant. "

Any evidence of that?

Posted by Cheap Seats Shaman *= on June 4, 2026, 8:28 am, in reply to "CHEMTRAILS are demonstrably FALSE."

I'm still trying to figure out what you consider evidentiary.
🤔

Absence of any atmospheric trace by trailing aircraft with proper sensors.

Posted by DFM on June 4, 2026, 6:58 pm, in reply to "Any evidence of that?"

The best way to validate the claims of "chemtrails" would be to hire an aircraft equipped with proper sensors to follow suspicious aircraft closely enough to enter their condensation trails and compare their contents with nearby undisturbed air. This has never been done.

Alternatively, and less effective, would be comprehensive spectroscopic analysis of "chemtrails" compared to nearby uncontaminated air. This has also never been done.

All claims are based on intuitive analysis of appearances of contrails, which is worthless.

GeoengineeringWatch.Org did send up a jet to sample the chemtrails.

Posted by GOG on June 5, 2026, 6:40 am, in reply to "Absence of any atmospheric trace by trailing aircraft with proper sensors."

I guess you missed that report. They found elevated levels of everything they claim is in those spew lines. Do you really think this sun-dimming program is going to investigate itself and expose what is a Pentagon program? Good luck. You’ll never see that report. However, there is much documentation of their plans to do what they are doing. My first sight of the new aerial phenomenon was in 1990. From one end of San Francisco Bay to the other. The freak out about alledged global warming is the genesis of a cover for actually covering up their massive depletion of the ozone protective layer. More and more rockets. Ever wonder why the sun is no longer yellow? Why the direct sunlight on skin stings?

Outrageous LIE. Never happened.

Posted by DFM on June 6, 2026, 7:10 pm, in reply to "GeoengineeringWatch.Org did send up a jet to sample the chemtrails."

Grossly oversimplified family tree. Noah was a myth as was Japeth.

Posted by DFM on June 3, 2026, 3:39 pm, in reply to "If you are Caucasian you are a direct descendant of Noah’s grandson, Japheth."

The Ark was a myth.
The Global Flood was a myth.

Strange. But scholars say many place names around the world

Posted by GOG on June 6, 2026, 5:08 am, in reply to "Grossly oversimplified family tree. Noah was a myth as was Japeth."

are ‘knockoffs’ of these people you say are mythological. They fanned out and their descendants are not mythological.

Even stranger is, "How long ago do your stories say this was?"

Posted by Cheap Seats Shaman *= on June 6, 2026, 11:16 am, in reply to "Strange. But scholars say many place names around the world"

Sorry...Another flaw in your timeline.

Is geology another of your "Victorian contrivances"?

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