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I thought it was the law cash money was to pay all dedt public and private

Posted by Lucky on November 11, 2026, 4:51 pm

How do these places get away with being cashless.
When you use a debit card it cost 3% more

The intrusive middleman wants his cut. It’s all about ripoff and control.

Posted by GOG on November 12, 2026, 6:37 am, in reply to "I thought it was the law cash money was to pay all dedt public and private "

Always couched under ‘convenience’ and saving time, etc. certain quarters say “it’s not your money”. Don’t use a debit card. I got rid of mine. Very easy to hack. All of this cyber BS is insecure. I’ve stopped ordering on line. Ripped off twice. Cash as often as convenient to pay for daily household operations. Including dinner out. Gasoline is a different animal. But the control freaks want DIgital ID (referred to laughingly as “Real ID”). That and cash made unacceptable is the psychopaths’ wet dream and our nightmare.

I think

Posted by Maverick on November 12, 2026, 8:04 am, in reply to "The intrusive middleman wants his cut. It’s all about ripoff and control. "

the government wants to go plastic money and get rid of paper and coin. The reason? All transactions become traceable. No more paying someone under the table, no more purchases without a paper trail. They want the taxes. They don't care if you or I take the hit as far as the scammers and thieves are concerned. What they care about it diving as deep as they can in our pockets.

So what I envision is that one day we will all have an account that income is credited to. And we will whip out a debit card to draw on that account for purchases and the like.

Easy enough to find out:

Posted by Maverick on November 11, 2026, 7:36 pm, in reply to "I thought it was the law cash money was to pay all dedt public and private "

Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment?

There is no federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law that says otherwise.

Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," states: "United States coins and currency [including Federal Reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve Banks and national banks] are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues." This statute means that all U.S. money as identified above is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm

That is certainly interesting, but vague.

Posted by BornToFarm on November 12, 2026, 7:18 am, in reply to "Easy enough to find out:"

When you go a service, (car repair maybe) when that service gives you a bill, at that moment, they are the creditor, and you are the debtor.

If you pay for something in advance, like bus fare, or merchandise that is still at the the store, then there is not debtor/creditor relationship.

Clear as mud to me.

If I go somewhere and order a meal and eat it, and then they hand me the bill, I owe them money. So, would they be required to take cash from me, the debtor?

I don't know

The government isn't happy unless things are complicated.

Posted by Maverick on November 12, 2026, 8:23 am, in reply to "That is certainly interesting, but vague."

It does not consider a purchase a debt. Purchase is spending to them. Its an exchange of money for goods and services. Debt is something like a loan where you agree to pay it on schedule. Credit cards create a debt, so does a big ticket item like a mortgage or a car loan. You owe the balance until its paid in full.

If for some reason your obligation (debt) is cancelled by the lender the balance owed might be considered income by the IRS.

At least, that is how I understand it.

Back in the day companies had their own money script

Posted by Lucky on November 12, 2026, 4:11 am, in reply to "Easy enough to find out:"

I own my soul to the company store.
Now these cards are taking over our currency that cost someone 3% of each purchase. In my area sales tax is 9.25 % then add the 3% of the card

The name of the game is how to get as much of your money into their pockets,

Posted by Maverick on November 12, 2026, 8:52 am, in reply to "Back in the day companies had their own money script "

be they government, businesses etc. You are a source of money. They want it. If you end up hurting because you are being squeezed, even unfairly, they don't worry about that. Your personal pain and finances is a don't care for them. Just pay up.

Nice world we live in, eh?

We are being tax into the poor house.

Posted by GOG on November 12, 2026, 7:51 am, in reply to "Back in the day companies had their own money script "

As the economy continues to implode, protests about excessive taxation will come to the fore. California is literally driving taxpayers out of the state. Oh yeah, when one emigrates, if a house sold, the greedy bastards take a cut of 5%. Sacramento still cannot balance a state budget. Deep red.

You are a resource to the government. In this case a source of money.

Posted by Maverick on November 12, 2026, 8:31 am, in reply to "We are being tax into the poor house. "

How they budget and spend it is deplorable.

What law is that?

Posted by Damnation Bound Shaman *= on November 11, 2026, 5:37 pm, in reply to "I thought it was the law cash money was to pay all dedt public and private "

And the word is 'debt'...

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