It's a useless statement that is purely for window dressing. Beckman and Cubits worst classes
could argue P5 traits. Zook's last few could argue P5 traits.
But, at the end of the day, they're just bad classes
The team had dudes who belonged in the MAC. They now have dudes who belong on B1G special teams units. Is that good? No, but it's better than what it was, which is all I was getting at. Recruiting is incredibly disappointing and the real test will be the next two years to see if the talent base has drastically improved, but I'd say for now it has.
Also, I don't think he makes $5mil a year. Didn't he have some offset in the first two years where the Bucs were paying a portion of the salary? From what I'm seeing it's been a $3.5mil average and is up to $4mil. Which is still top 30 but eliminates some context if you just expect Illinois to be a top 30 program then. Like we have the context that he's not a good recruiter, but that he has made the talent base better relative to what it was, which was an absolute dumpster fire and something you have to overpay to fix. I guess when you factor in how much his family makes it's pretty close to $5mil lol
We've from trying to get 4* recruits to solid 3* recruits to recruits with decent offers to recruits with any P5 offers...
...and, now the bar is at he's got a 'Power 5 trait'
$5M a year to get land recruits that just have a P5 trait
in any sense. For some of the guys in recent classes you can still point to that. But at least the staff prioritizes guys who have at least one power 5 trait if they didn't have the power 5 offers.
I was getting pretty sick of seeing a bunch of short armed, unathletic OL get absolutely bullied because they had a coach who probably thought that if you got them to try really hard enough they could be good.
I know Roughy just did an exercise in this realm a week or so ago but I think Lovie has raised the floor of the roster from what it was. Now, relative to the rest of the B1G they still are near the bottom, but it's not as bad as it once was.
It was bad before, and somehow now itís worse.
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Rod Smith with an early morning Flair tweet* - Phytynlini June 19, 2020, 7:54:49
- Elite 11 QB Ranking (Macon) - UofIL6 July 1, 2020, 21:26:13
- Fleck cleared out his lowest rated recruit. Now, all 15 commits are top 1000* - UofIL6 July 1, 2020, 11:48:15
- Mack Brown still has it - UofIL6 June 30, 2020, 16:57:19
- ESL Tweet (Miznoz) - UofIL6 June 26, 2020, 16:22:43
- In-state GBN OL Jackson Carsello to NW/Fitzy* - UofIL6 June 24, 2020, 12:11:38
- Vic Koenning accusations. - gullit June 23, 2020, 22:21:29
- STL Trinity S Ty Hibbler to Miznoz. They now have 13 top-1000 commitments - UofIL6 June 23, 2020, 20:53:59
- U Texas offers '23 STL recruit - UofIL6 June 22, 2020, 20:28:36
- Another failure by the Illinois recruiting staff. Demetrius Cannon to Louisville. - uofi1998 June 22, 2020, 15:07:13
- Miznoz gets a 4* LB commit from NC - UofIL6 June 21, 2020, 16:59:42
- We just got a CB for a Chevy.... - illinidarrin June 21, 2020, 14:22:32
- Question I woke up thinking about this morning regarding the 2021 season: - AyBayBalas June 21, 2020, 10:57:37
- we moved to 12/14 in conference recruit rankings - illiniranger June 21, 2020, 5:38:49
- Ha, just Saw a fb ad from a local car dealer... - illini21 June 20, 2020, 10:06:47
- Three thoughts - illiniranger June 19, 2020, 22:29:17
- Joriell Washington* - KCWildcat June 19, 2020, 16:28:21
- *waiting patiently for UofIL6 to tell us why we shouldn't be OK with this....* - Illiniphil June 19, 2020, 21:06:08
- I like him alot* - JacobRDaugherty June 19, 2020, 20:47:51
- I wonder if he tested really well after his sophomore season at camps and such because his junior - AyBayBalas June 19, 2020, 17:07:42
- Very skeptical he has a committable Oregon offer... but... - uofi1998 June 19, 2020, 16:35:19
- Hudson is building this class* - CanHartlebHireSnider June 19, 2020, 16:34:46
- Nice. Good pick up at S. Great size and speed.* - ihpsdm June 19, 2020, 16:34:12
- link to his 247 page - assassin June 19, 2020, 16:30:32
- Aaron Gonzalez says more are coming in Will Smith GIF form - DanSaint June 19, 2020, 15:16:26
- I always think about the Denver Broncos WR, one of my first FF hits - memyselfandillini June 19, 2020, 14:32:57
- ESL QB Tyler Macon invited to Elite 11 finals. We didn't want him or want to deal with his school* - UofIL6 June 19, 2020, 13:51:26
- Sounds like another one* - Phytynlini June 19, 2020, 13:24:18
- It was indeed Lockley. - uofi1998 June 19, 2020, 11:52:48
- Weíll get some recruiting mojo just in time for the season to be cancelled.* - nash June 19, 2020, 8:05:37
- probably this kid - snipes824 June 19, 2020, 8:00:03
- Yes it was * - jdl June 19, 2020, 11:42:03
- We are seeing the recruiting upside from the bowl game* - gvibes June 19, 2020, 9:44:44
- I'm sure, like the remainder of the class, he is highly underrated* - UofIL6 June 19, 2020, 8:09:01
- Our staff must be amazing teachers. - uofi1998 June 19, 2020, 8:06:39
- ooo - jdl June 19, 2020, 7:59:42
- And several other coaches with gifts as well. With #tooill as the hashtag* - DanSaint June 19, 2020, 7:58:24
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