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Posted by Dilbert

on July 31, 2025, 19:03:06, in reply to "Quoting your article..."

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As the cost of living rises, Gen Z are feeling the pinch. If they do have money to spend, those dollars are competing with other “vices” that have become far more accessible in recent years, like gambling, gaming and cannabis.

Many of these alternative dopamine sources court young men specifically. According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, young men are gaming more and working less. Platforms like FanDuel, Stake, ESPN Bet and DraftKings (which are responsible for 95% of sports betting in the U.S.) have brought betting online, and Gen Z men are particularly susceptible to digital sports betting: 25% of men under the age of 45 have bet on sports or racing online, according to an Intuit Credit Karma study. 37% of Gen Z gamblers reported being addicted—14% more than all other demographics.

Drinks industry pros hypothesize that these trends are impacting the way young men relate to alcohol.

“There’s more competition for that ‘drinks spend’ today, from sports betting to YouTube, TikTok and endless streaming content,” says Cooper Spirits’ Executive Vice President Jon Holecz.

Cigarette sales are down, but Zyn (a nicotine pouch) is in. These hobbies add up. “Between online gaming, gambling, Starbucks and Zyn, we’re talking about $40–a-day habits from this generation,” says West. “We have these competing forces in beverage alcohol like never before.”

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Believe it or not we do have the internet, smart phones, and apps (online gaming apps, streaming, & TikTok). Zyn can be purchased locally. There are casinos within an hour drive and electronic gaming machines in every bar and gas station around. Rise Dispensary is in town (https://risecannabis.com/dispensaries/illinois/effingham) Hell, we even have a Starbucks.

Not a damn thing written there that changes the demographic.

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Interesting article on the reasons Gen Z men are drinking less - Sounder July 31, 2025, 16:38:09

It’s because they’re antisocial and obsessed with their phones * - meanjeans Yesterday, 0:01:08
- That’s self contradictory. They are obsessed with social media sure. But - ATL Yesterday, 0:14:40
  - The absolute worst form of human interaction, maybe.* - longsnapper Yesterday, 7:45:05
As a sidejack, I’ve found more people my age tapping out from drinking…. - haighter July 31, 2025, 21:24:16
- Def ain’t regional, Holmes. Socioeconomic.* - cpsteine July 31, 2025, 23:13:48
  - Huh…I guess that’s probably more likely. * - haighter July 31, 2025, 23:21:19
I’m intrigued by Zyn* - biclops July 31, 2025, 16:50:21
- They rock* - illini21 Yesterday, 6:52:27
- The odds of it not causing mouth cancer in a decade seem pretty slim - assassin July 31, 2025, 20:31:14
- Wintergreen 6 >>>>>>>* - digs July 31, 2025, 19:20:40
- The amount of Zyn my Gen Z soldiers consume is incredible * - illiniranger July 31, 2025, 18:55:49
  - Copenhagen or nothing. - KingTalkyTiki July 31, 2025, 23:11:53
Blaming Covid closures is kind of hilarious considering that outside of a pretty small window, - doubledown July 31, 2025, 16:45:46
- And people I know, albeit my age, drank more. The heyday of the to go cocktail.* - ATL July 31, 2025, 16:52:13
  - they drank because they were lonely and depressed, the opposite of why you're supposed to drink* - Sounder July 31, 2025, 16:53:08
    - Both the antecedent and the conclusion of that is incorrect, at least in my experience.* - ATL July 31, 2025, 20:32:55
So locally at least, that's not a thing. - EffinIllini July 31, 2025, 16:45:07
- Is locally Chicago? - Sounder July 31, 2025, 16:51:16
  - It’s a thing here too, for sure. Just as many educated Gen Z’s here as Seattle, prob more* - cpsteine July 31, 2025, 23:16:57
  - Central to Southern IL. - EffinIllini July 31, 2025, 16:57:00
    - Respectfully, that's a very different demographic than what this article is referencing* - Sounder July 31, 2025, 16:57:44
      - It said Gen Z. - EffinIllini July 31, 2025, 17:00:22
        
        I was referring to your zip code, not the age range - Sounder July 31, 2025, 17:01:33
        
        Quoting your article... - EffinIllini July 31, 2025, 17:09:52
        
        Don't bother. Sounder's bubble is all that matters for his views* - Dilbert July 31, 2025, 19:03:06
        
        Beat me to it* - MtHoodIllini July 31, 2025, 20:34:20

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