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Boy wonder over on that sideline having a bad night*

Posted by opossum jenkins

on September 8, 2025, 22:32:22, in reply to "Bears Gameday/Game Thread - - - -Daniels and Penix look like the real deal, Nix and Maye appear to "

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be serviceable-ish starters . . . . please let Caleb Williams not suck.

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Bears Gameday/Game Thread - - - -Daniels and Penix look like the real deal, Nix and Maye appear to - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 8:21:51

Yikes - it’s his first time making these decisions so he deserves a break, but this is terrible - OB25 September 12, 2025, 16:55:23
- ooo - IlliniSax05 September 12, 2025, 21:16:43
- Come on. This is him covering for his kicker not being able to kick it through the end zone. * - VIV September 12, 2025, 17:17:44
  - I don’t think Santos can kick it through the EZ. And I don’t think BJ knew that. - Carl Spackler September 12, 2025, 20:17:46
    - Yeah this feels like a bad excuse for his own mistake, not covering for a kicker. - OB25 September 12, 2025, 20:22:35
      - team viv on this. locker room vibes are essential. doesn't matter if its a kicker that's traded soon - Nobster September 12, 2025, 20:27:14
        
        It could be, but I don’t think most people were blaming Santos for something he can’t do. - OB25 September 12, 2025, 20:36:08
        
        I’m 100% blaming santos for being the only kicker in the league who can’t put one through the EZ* - VIV September 13, 2025, 10:42:50
        
        Because, as pointed out before, if santos kicks it OOB, the Vikings could decline it - VIV September 13, 2025, 10:45:18
        
        I don't think that is true. I thought they changed being able to decline it* - longsnapper September 13, 2025, 11:41:08
        
        Feels like the consensus over the course of the week is that’s not a thing. - Carl Spackler September 13, 2025, 11:19:02
  - Maybe, I’m not sure if a first year coach is gonna take those bullets for a kicker… - OB25 September 12, 2025, 19:59:00
- I’d be surprised if he was thinking about the yards vs. brain fart.* - Carl Spackler September 12, 2025, 17:00:09
JJ, TJ Edwards, Roschon Johnson all full participants today - AintHatin September 12, 2025, 14:50:53
- Feels like a get right game for the Lions. - illini21 September 12, 2025, 15:20:25
  - I think the Lions are gonna be pretty meh this year.* - Carl Spackler September 12, 2025, 15:50:14
    - Can we stop the run? - digs September 12, 2025, 16:52:16
      - People that know much more about football than me said the Lions IOL looked abysmal last week. - Carl Spackler September 12, 2025, 16:54:39
        
        I think we may have to adjust that in view of the Packers incredible D performance again* - gvibes September 12, 2025, 17:03:50
    - Agree I just have a bad feeling about this one* - illini21 September 12, 2025, 15:51:24
Sounds like Taylor Decker may not play for the Lions.* - Carl Spackler September 12, 2025, 12:52:44
- I'm sure our 150M in DEs will be able to take advantage* - gvibes September 12, 2025, 14:54:11
  - To be fair, one of them was awesome on Monday. - OB25 September 12, 2025, 15:13:14
    - He played 80%+ of snaps! I thought all the talk was to limit his workload!* - Carl Spackler September 12, 2025, 15:45:21
    - Heh. Heard someone on the score say he was limited in practice yesterday - illini21 September 12, 2025, 15:18:56
Average yards to go on third down was 10.6? Can that be right? Yikes* - gvibes September 12, 2025, 12:05:06
- Wasn't there a 3rd and 30+ at some point?* - IlliniOllie September 12, 2025, 12:24:39
Lol, Bears signed Jake Moody to the practice squad.* - OB25 September 12, 2025, 11:47:29
- Can’t hurt, could help. Was really good at Michigan. Can kick it more than 50 yards. * - VIV September 12, 2025, 15:54:21
- No worries with that. A lot of times a kicker is better at his later stops* - bjl63 September 12, 2025, 11:59:58
  - yes.* - Ari Gold September 12, 2025, 15:03:25
- can't hurt. maybe the change of scenery works for him - IlliniSax05 September 12, 2025, 11:49:45
  - Yeah it’s fine and doesn’t hurt anything, he has been unspeakably bad though.* - OB25 September 12, 2025, 12:42:05
    - A free roll at maybe upgrading a weakness on the roster. * - VIV September 12, 2025, 15:55:11
  - Yeah I like this* - illini21 September 12, 2025, 12:26:34
That game on Monday has absolutely cratered my interest in watching the NFL - OB25 September 11, 2025, 12:16:25
- makes me glad I already don't watch nfl outside of the bears - IlliniSax05 September 11, 2025, 12:38:34
- I'll still watch but it's so damn depressing* - illini21 September 11, 2025, 12:36:52
As if I wasn't demoralized enough, I just saw something comparing Trubisky and Caleb through the - LovetheChief September 10, 2025, 8:54:30
mully finally asks why hightower was retained? penalty on a punt return, missed fg, blocked punt, - Ari Gold September 10, 2025, 6:57:49
- Tory Taylor isn’t great at all.* - Mrap24 September 10, 2025, 9:00:03
QB School analysis of Caleb is Patreon only so I found this one instead - Orangeillini September 9, 2025, 21:08:47
- Looks like he is just doing these unlisted now and I'm guessing a link works* - gvibes September 9, 2025, 21:46:06
Did anyone watch Johnson’s presser last night or his media availability today? I watched both and I - LovetheChief September 9, 2025, 20:42:10
- The Bears are 6-28 over the past two years. They are a losing team with a losing culture. - AintHatin September 10, 2025, 8:49:33
- It's his first game as a HC. Let's all relax - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 21:31:09
  - This isn’t the pre-internet age where development was allowed to take place over time* - bjl63 September 10, 2025, 9:06:57
Burden only played 18 snaps? don't like that * - MC September 9, 2025, 20:37:55
- way more than shemar and trapilio? and at least he’s got some pretty talented players - Ari Gold September 10, 2025, 7:03:47
Johnson said he ignored the guidance of his staff on the challenge decision. - OB25 September 9, 2025, 19:46:11
- i have little issue with the challenge. Super high leverage play and I wonder how many - CoronaTheirAss September 9, 2025, 21:30:42
- crowd was imploring him to challenge as well based upon the replay in the stadium - Ari Gold September 9, 2025, 19:57:03
Just face it. This organization is dogshit - timmer September 9, 2025, 11:57:04
- I did! - KingTalkyTiki September 9, 2025, 13:10:37
  - All I care about there is Spencer Rattler* - JeffFrank September 9, 2025, 13:16:49
- john fox said it best: it’s all a problem.* - Ari Gold September 9, 2025, 12:05:58
Hard to stand firm on my mild defense of Caleb’s play when watching this. - OB25 September 9, 2025, 11:39:08
- Check out this one. - gullit September 9, 2025, 12:56:15
- Why is he not letting it loose on these - John Coctostan September 9, 2025, 12:09:15
  - I was thinking on the drive in this morning about the generally conservative play calling - Blazer September 9, 2025, 12:27:01
    - I didn't think the play calling was conservative. - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 12:32:42
      - i fully expected Benjo to have a LAM trick play and was surprised one never came* - VIV September 9, 2025, 12:52:53
        
        Hard to do much of a trick play with Dalman getting beaten so regularly.* - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 13:15:43
        
        You must have missed the jet sweep to DJ with 9 seconds left, lol.* - OB25 September 9, 2025, 13:09:22
  - He's been risk adverse to a fault since his first start in the league. - OrangeSox September 9, 2025, 12:17:28
- After last night I’m officially concerned - illini21 September 9, 2025, 11:49:29
  - Drafting Trubisky over Mahomes and Williams over Daniels is kind of brutal* - Sounder September 9, 2025, 11:54:31
    - Daniels wouldn't be Daniels if he was a Bear. - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 12:13:52
      - exactly. Daniels with Waldron would have been a shitshow* - VIV September 9, 2025, 12:39:35
      - Same for Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, or anyone else in the last 75 years - IlliniOllie September 9, 2025, 12:30:44
      - I think Maye is the worst of the bunch but the media loves him for some reason.* - OB25 September 9, 2025, 12:22:14
        
        I think Nix has a lower ceiling, but is in much better spot than Maye. - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 12:35:58
    - The first is much worse than the second. Despite the revisionist history that will be floated now… - OB25 September 9, 2025, 11:57:44
      - Agreed on both - Sounder September 9, 2025, 12:13:05
        
        Mitch was the consensus #1 QB. Trading up for him was dumb, but - longsnapper September 9, 2025, 12:52:39
  - If it makes you feel better, I'm sure the Bears could ruin JD as well.* - Warrin'_Illini September 9, 2025, 11:54:06
    - I love JD, but man that body type looks like it's one bad hit away from a RGIII career ending injury - Sounder September 9, 2025, 11:55:26
I still can’t believe what I saw last night. Caleb Williams sucks ass.* - Toonces September 9, 2025, 11:29:05
After 3+ weeks in the Chicago area, the Bears sports talk radio was insufferable... - RSMBob September 9, 2025, 11:19:00
Cade McNown with a better arm.* - cpsteine September 9, 2025, 11:02:39
- nevermind, I misread your post - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 11:07:13
- i don't think you're remembering how bad cade was - VIV September 9, 2025, 11:07:04
  - Cade’s problem is he thought he was left handed* - QcIlliniFan September 9, 2025, 12:12:03
  - yeah, he was obv much worse. I just like the comparison, albeit perhaps a poor one, because - cpsteine September 9, 2025, 11:11:24
The glazing of Kevin O’Connell over the final kickoff situation is so ridiculous. - OB25 September 9, 2025, 10:53:36
- totally agree. the returner wasn't looking at him - he was looking at the field* - cpsteine September 9, 2025, 11:03:28
biggs claims the bears are now 22-51 in the division since 2013 and last night’s game - Ari Gold September 9, 2025, 9:46:59
- also told mully he doesn’t see the 3 injured defensive players coming back soon and jj may be out - Ari Gold September 9, 2025, 10:02:20
Morning after thoughts - OB25 September 9, 2025, 9:16:13
- The coddling of Caleb is hilarious. At the end of the day the offense scored 10pts and he lost to a - gullit September 9, 2025, 9:40:40
  - I said he wasn’t good enough, just pointing out that there’s no middle ground in the discussion - OB25 September 9, 2025, 9:56:59
    - He was ok and that's the problem, a #1 pick has been ok for 17 games. Many other problems however.* - gullit September 9, 2025, 10:19:15
    - heh. i said i was going to wait until the end of the season to really judge his progress - VIV September 9, 2025, 10:14:37
      - I feel much better today reminding myself that I had said there’d be ups and downs this year.* - Carl Spackler September 9, 2025, 10:56:08
  - KOC seems like an awesome coach. Let's not forget the Bears passed on his for Eberflus. - Warrin'_Illini September 9, 2025, 9:49:58
  - You have a point, but .... - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 9:49:38
  - the 2 most alarming things to me - VIV September 9, 2025, 9:46:44
    - Justin freaking Fields did a better job on 1. With a brand new first time OC* - gvibes September 9, 2025, 9:55:15
    - Justin freaking Fields did a better job on 1. With a brand new first time OC* - gvibes September 9, 2025, 9:55:12
    - Your first point was what I noticed but didn't know how to put it. - Chilango September 9, 2025, 9:51:56
      - The lions offense was very much based on throwing on time and in structure - VIV September 9, 2025, 9:59:37
        
        Troy was way over the top on criticisms in some regards. but i think he pointed out a couple - John Coctostan September 9, 2025, 10:29:34
        
        I have this example to someone else, but Jared Goff may have been sacked 8 times last night. - Carl Spackler September 9, 2025, 10:21:11
        
        to be clear, i don't want to clip caleb's scrambling nuts - VIV September 9, 2025, 10:26:03
        
        Yeah same page* - Carl Spackler September 9, 2025, 10:55:24
        
        Kind of feels like how I play the NCAA football game when I have a fast QB. - OB25 September 9, 2025, 10:11:41
        
        Half Back Toss and Pass with Rashan Salaam for the TD* - Chilango September 9, 2025, 11:45:18
        
        my biggest fear is that he's scrambled for his life for so long, he's forgotten how to play on time - VIV September 9, 2025, 10:13:08
        
        The thing that gives me hope is that I do think Ben Johnson is the guy to fix it if it’s fixable* - OB25 September 9, 2025, 10:15:05
        
        at this point, I have no idea. we all thought he was. he didn't look the part yesterday. - cpsteine September 9, 2025, 11:06:04
        
        man, i hope so.* - VIV September 9, 2025, 10:17:55
- re: your first point..."everybody" isn't rooting for him to fail - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 9:28:07
  - I was referring more to fans and a lot of people in the media nationally. - OB25 September 9, 2025, 9:35:23
wanny’s biggest concerns were caleb’s accuracy, the run game, and penalties.* - Ari Gold September 9, 2025, 9:08:14
- I kind of expected the run game to suck* - gvibes September 9, 2025, 9:12:23
  - There was one play where Swift ran like a bulldozer and ran right into a guy and i hope Ben - CoronaTheirAss September 9, 2025, 9:44:57
    - that was Payton-ish* - cpsteine September 9, 2025, 11:15:42
Dalman 60.2 (22nd), Thuney 58.9 (37th), Jackson 31 (worst in league), Wright 77.9 (8th), - gvibes September 9, 2025, 8:42:45
- That seems kind to Dalman, but the bad plays always stick in your memory - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 9:34:11
- At least we signed Jackson to a completely ridiculous extension such that we are forced to cut him - gvibes September 9, 2025, 9:26:42
- PFF is only useful for people without eyes.* - longsnapper September 9, 2025, 9:02:56
  - Thanks. Where would you rank Jonah Jackson's week 1 performance, league-wide?* - gvibes September 9, 2025, 9:11:48
    - Tied for last, with all the other players on losing teams* - longsnapper September 9, 2025, 9:16:49
      - come on man* - John Coctostan September 9, 2025, 9:18:32
        
        I generally agree with him that the reliance on PFF for most positions has gotten really tedious - OB25 September 9, 2025, 9:29:24
        
        Sure. but his implication in the above post is that there is no individual grading of players - John Coctostan September 9, 2025, 9:48:10
        
        That was not my implication. My implication is that - longsnapper September 9, 2025, 10:51:45
- poles can really find them.* - Ari Gold September 9, 2025, 9:02:10
- More PFF rankings. - gvibes September 9, 2025, 8:49:31
  - How did Sewell rank - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 9:35:17
    - 52/72. Edmunds 33* - gvibes September 9, 2025, 9:52:36
- there is no way Wright was the 8th best OL this week. these rankings are shit - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 8:45:28
  - I thought he had a good game. I had thought Thuney was not that bad* - gvibes September 9, 2025, 8:50:53
    - I thought he looked mediocre at best - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 9:23:13
Same old Bears, looked like an Eberflus coached team. They should script out the whole game - Warrin'_Illini September 9, 2025, 8:40:05
- ha that play i was definitely like WTF are we doi... oh nice. Rome is wide open* - CoronaTheirAss September 9, 2025, 8:58:15
Think the defensive snap counts partially explain why the D got run over 2nd half. - Carl Spackler September 9, 2025, 8:23:58
- Ha, Shemar Turner was inactive. Another great 2nd round pick* - OrangeSox September 9, 2025, 8:28:08
It annoys me how good of hire KOC turned out for MIN* - MC September 9, 2025, 8:02:56
Was Caleb this inaccurate at USC? It is just so discouraging that after a prove it off season this - LovetheChief September 9, 2025, 7:09:35
- It was just 1 game.* - Carl Spackler September 9, 2025, 7:17:23
  - the inaccuracy issue was there all last year, too - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 7:19:23
    - I’m just saying if you’re looking for development, maybe wait more than 1 game to draw conclusions* - Carl Spackler September 9, 2025, 7:20:20
      - This is the internet. Patience lasts for one bad play then everything is over * - bjl63 September 9, 2025, 7:34:28
        
        Meh - that was a bad game from Caleb. It was great to see him run and make some quicker throws - CoronaTheirAss September 9, 2025, 7:52:46
      - on one hand sure. on the other, those last two passes to kmet and dj were just atrocious - John Coctostan September 9, 2025, 7:31:36
        
        The kmet one, looked like he stutter stepped the route for some reason. - gvibes September 9, 2025, 7:35:34
      - to an extent I agree, but missing wide open receivers isn't development - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 7:25:15
        
        My hope is that the inaccuracy is a partially a product of him running for his life last year. - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 8:00:40
        
        Yeah I’m more concerned with the OL than anything else I saw last night* - Carl Spackler September 9, 2025, 8:25:22
        
        Agreed. Thought the middle of the line was particularly bad.* - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 9:51:36
        
        yeah agreed with that take* - CoronaTheirAss September 9, 2025, 8:13:14
        
        I wonder that myself. He gets antsy waiting for pressure them overthrows * - bjl63 September 9, 2025, 8:04:31
        
        he definitely regressed as the game went on - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 8:03:56
        
        I was disappointed in the game plan, to be honest. - Chicago1995 September 9, 2025, 8:25:11
I can't get over how bad Poles is with draft capital. - OrangeSox September 9, 2025, 6:36:00
- Well he’s not Ryan pace bad * - FidelGoodell September 9, 2025, 7:30:32
  - Pace at least had that glorious head of hair - IlliniSax05 September 9, 2025, 7:33:24
    - So he's got THAT going for him. Which is nice. - osklister September 9, 2025, 8:17:09
Was the actual coaching mistake at the end kicking the FG? - Carl Spackler September 9, 2025, 6:07:47
How do the Bears not have a guy who can blast it out of the back of the end zone - Blazer September 9, 2025, 2:28:27
- The Vikings kicker kicked a 59 yard field goal - off the ground, over the defense, - IlliniOllie September 9, 2025, 7:04:09
  - He kicks like he's injured. Santos has the most laborious looking leg swing I've seen - OrangeSox September 9, 2025, 7:06:18
I still can’t believe we did nothing at the rb spot this offseason* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 23:46:57
Ooo - VIV September 8, 2025, 23:28:55
oh, and something tells me the tyler dunne stories will get more play this week.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 23:21:23
o’b is going on about the starters not playing enough in the preseason. lol.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 23:19:20
It's astounding, you can swap out every single player and coach in this franchise and it remains - meanjeans September 8, 2025, 23:12:19
I’m just disappointed - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 23:11:41
- We were a little unlucky. Still, offensive execution and Caleb were disappointments * - gvibes September 8, 2025, 23:12:36
Tory Taylor isn’t adding any value as a punter, is he?* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:57:39
- Another great pokes pick* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 23:03:22
  - I’m just glad his contract expires after this season* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 23:05:14
    - He’s under contract through 2027* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 23:13:43
      - Yes. I know* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 23:14:12
- Depends. Is a net of 33 yards per punt good?* - Carl Spackler September 8, 2025, 23:00:20
- he’s been meh at best.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:59:29
I know blaming the refs is weak, but am I forgetting any? - Carl Spackler September 8, 2025, 22:55:12
- Also both game changing calls caused by Vikings players slipping on our shitty turf* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 23:13:03
- I think they got the challenge right per my post a couple lines below* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 23:01:18
- I think JJ got an extremely soft roughing the passer as well.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 22:59:58
- You can’t fall apart like they did but none of it happens if not for the phantom hold. - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:56:56
Failure in every aspect in that 2nd half. - VIV September 8, 2025, 22:45:05
- i thought the undermanned defense gave them a chance to win, but the o, benjo, and st - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:55:55
ooo - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 22:42:00
I found the rule. He was down and it was not a fumble. Bad challenge. - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 22:41:53
- But they didn't "take" it, they knocked it loose - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 22:43:15
  - He’s on the ground. With possession. You can’t dispossess him. He’s down. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 22:47:39
    - Well not with THAT attitude, I can't - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 22:49:25
  - so if you grab it from him, it's down, but if you knock it out and then recover it, it's not? - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 22:44:59
    - The way I read that rule...yes - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 22:46:58
Looking forward to qb school Caleb review* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:41:22
- I wonder how the OL will grade out. - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:45:59
  - Thuney Wright jones Jackson dalman* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:46:43
    - Had the hardest time picking between jones and Jackson. Only two good OL today* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 23:04:04
    - I couldn’t believe how bad Dalman was* - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:48:59
- Why?* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:43:11
  - I'd love to see if guys were getting open downfield - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 22:56:01
  - Masochism* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:46:09
i can’t get over how little positive impact poles big picks and signings have had.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:41:02
- Two second rounders that can’t see the field* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 22:55:03
- They should have canned him with Eberflus. But McCaskey’s.* - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:43:39
- In a shocker (for me), dayo may be the best of them* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:42:18
What’s the best radio post game nowadays?* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 22:39:44
- What value is there listening to people yelling and whining? - bjl63 September 8, 2025, 22:54:51
- Wmvp is the official one. Jurko, Peggy Kazinski, and I think one other person - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 22:41:02
First drive of Nagy/Trubisky era and first drive of Johnson/Caleb era = Spider-Man meme* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:35:35
Turned off my excitement for the season. And my FFL team as well. * - harb September 8, 2025, 22:35:07
Another season of getting kicked in the dick every week* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 22:34:36
- Illini football to the rescue * - MC September 8, 2025, 22:35:17
different season. same old shit.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:33:16
What was that* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:32:42
Boy wonder over on that sideline having a bad night* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 22:32:22

A touch of humility might help. - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:36:11

Are we sure the baby is JJ's?* - illini222 September 8, 2025, 22:32:17
LOL* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:32:16
PERFECT. Absolute theater* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:32:05
fitting end to the game.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:31:58
So many dumb things had to happen to lose this game - Blazer September 8, 2025, 22:30:24
- [Chicago] challenge...accepted [/Bears] - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 22:31:28
  - Oh yeah, the challenge too* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 22:32:14
So glad we burned a timeout on that challenge. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 22:28:05
The MIN plan should have been to run it out of the end zone regardless - RVA September 8, 2025, 22:27:53
Is there a rule where the opponent can decline the kick OOB?* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:26:30
- i believe so.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:27:44
  - Upon 2 mins of research I do too actually - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:38:57
    - Then you need to either onside kick or kick the FG 2 plays earlier* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:41:19
      - Or have a man kickoff.* - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 22:45:17
  - I don't think that's correct, but I'm not sure* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 22:29:25
    - Would be a rare good time for a rules analyst to weigh in…* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:30:16
      - "Yeah, that is not a targeting penalty"* - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 22:30:55
Ben Johnson needs to answer for that decision, for sure.* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 22:25:54
- The challenge was every bit as egregious * - bjl63 September 8, 2025, 22:28:54
  - Absolutely not.* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 22:29:47
    - Knee was clearly down. It was an awful challenge. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 22:30:22
      - Is the ball part of the ball carrier?* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 22:31:27
        
        Under what circumstances can you take the ball from a runner who is down with possession?* - VIV September 8, 2025, 22:51:44
        
        Well he wasn't down until he punched the ball. - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 22:58:17
        
        I’d love to know if they thought he wasn’t down - VIV September 8, 2025, 23:18:47
        
        95% chance they didn't know the rule. - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 23:22:05
        
        The rule is vague. A turnover is way more valuable than a timeout. - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 23:00:47
        
        Yes, you keep saying that. - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 23:05:39
        
        i couldn't find that answer in my exhaustive 2 minutes of googling - Nobster September 8, 2025, 22:41:44
        
        The answer to this appears to be yes* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:40:19
        
        Yes that is a rule question * - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:39:32
I’m completely perplexed by that choice. Literally everyone knows santos can’t kick it out of - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:25:40
If he can’t get it out of the end zone from the 45, then kick it out to the side. - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:25:21
- can’t they make them kick it again on one oob?* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:27:20
  - Taylor cant kick off a tee?* - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:44:47
  - I think so yes* - cpsteine September 8, 2025, 22:29:33
Santos tried to kick it out of the endzone and couldn't* - OrangeSox September 8, 2025, 22:24:36
That’s horrendous by Santos* - voiceofreason September 8, 2025, 22:24:20
These coaches are overmatched. Already. * - illini September 8, 2025, 22:23:57
- I seriously think I’m out.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 22:25:43
What the fuck are we doing!!!!* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:23:45
- Cut him tonight* - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 22:24:34
  - and fire hightower.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:25:32
Pretty poor covering kicks tonight too* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 22:23:41
dumb* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 22:23:25
Unbelievable. Why* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:23:11
- Kick it out of bounds* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes September 8, 2025, 22:23:37
  - Yep. If you don’t know you can kick it out of the endzone, just kick it OOB* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 22:24:51
- That’s the game. What the fuck* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:23:29
The missed FG looming large. Cut Santos .* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 22:21:56
- You just can't keep running the kicking version of Juan Pierre out there* - Sammich September 8, 2025, 22:23:52
  - especially in this stadium.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:29:58
  - Ha ha. That's good* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 22:26:28
- How about the field goal Minnesota got right before the half.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 22:22:39
  - The one that they respotted longer with the kicking team already out there? - RVA September 8, 2025, 22:25:46
  - Santos couldn't have made that kick* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 22:24:41
    - Off a tee, with no defense* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 22:26:44
So your only chance if you kickoff is Santos to kick out of end zone, which I don’t think he can do* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:21:20
I’d consider kicking the KO out of bounds. The extra TO worth more than yards* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:20:39
- who knows with hightower coaching the st.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:22:06
- Good point.* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:21:34
- yeah, unless Santos can get it through the endzone but not sure he has that leg* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 22:21:22
- Was thinking the same* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 22:21:20
- Agreed - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 22:21:04
- Because santos can’t put it through the end zone* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:21:03
  - Because Santos isn't an NFL level kicker* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 22:22:04
That was a really good play* - timmer September 8, 2025, 22:20:39
I can't believe networks waste money on these former refs* - Sammich September 8, 2025, 22:19:48
Maybe he can be a RB instead of a QB?* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 22:19:27
gonna need the onside kick now* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 22:19:07
Didn’t score quick enough. Will need an onside kick miracle* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:19:03
God damn it. Gonna be out a the half yard line* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:18:45
Not a TD* - timmer September 8, 2025, 22:18:42
Mannnnn Caleb is way faster than I recalled * - MC September 8, 2025, 22:18:17
Well Troy, that little 1 dot by the Bears means they have 1 timeout left, not zero* - illini222 September 8, 2025, 22:17:59
Moore done for the year.* - gullit September 8, 2025, 22:15:59
- Doesn’t look like it * - MC September 8, 2025, 22:17:12
That’s an unbelievably terrible job by the center. I mean what the actual fuck* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:15:12
- He’s been awful tonight. Just atrocious* - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:16:54
- He does not look much better than shelton* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:15:52
Welp, I’m done with Caleb. Maybe the NEXT QB will be the one* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 22:14:32
- This is the first time I’ve had serious concerns. - illini21 September 8, 2025, 22:20:28
- It's a bad line for sure, but less pedigreed QBs have done a lot more with a lot less - Sammich September 8, 2025, 22:16:20
  - Yeah this* - cpsteine September 8, 2025, 22:20:31
- Meh, week 1 is always a liar.* - voiceofreason September 8, 2025, 22:16:08
- Super Bagent super bowl - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 22:15:47
Kick the FG now and you don’t need the onside kick to work to have a chance* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:14:18
My god, he’s airmailing everything.* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:13:23
Caleb is simply not accurate. Kind of a problem* - cpsteine September 8, 2025, 22:13:19
Williams missed DJ. Overthrows Kmet. Blech* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 22:12:53
Holy piss * - illini September 8, 2025, 22:12:40
Kmet bailed out Caleb there - Blazer September 8, 2025, 22:12:22
What a terrible terrible throw to a wide open guy. Fuck me* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:12:17
- Not to mention the one to kmet was bad too. This game has done more to sour me on - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:13:16
Ridiculous and embarrassing* - cpsteine September 8, 2025, 22:10:50
My god. This is JJ’s first career game. * - illini September 8, 2025, 22:10:48
It just doesn’t matter who the coach is or who the QB is. It’s still Bears football* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 22:10:31
Yeah, this is a disaster. The game. Caleb. Coaching. Personnel on OL. Huge problems* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 22:10:10
- BJ giving Dusty after the Bartman play vibes. Epic choke, how can any of us invest in - Toonces September 8, 2025, 22:12:01
lol.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 22:10:00
Who else had that feeling this was going to get away from us when Santos missed that FG? - timmer September 8, 2025, 22:09:57
- the phantom hold before that was the harbinger. surprised they didn't upgrade from Santos this year - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 22:12:04
Clown shoes* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 22:09:17
#collapse* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 22:08:59
Crazy to think that this is the same sport the bills & ravens play* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 22:08:52
Embarrassing* - RVA September 8, 2025, 22:08:42
Just a doomed franchsie* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:07:04
No discernible difference from last year* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 22:06:54
BEAT WESTERN MICHIGAN!* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 22:06:53
Fucking awful. Defense awful. Offense awful. ST awful. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 22:06:41
Can’t get lined up on defense* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 22:06:33
Breakdowns on almost every play* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:06:16
- crowd and defense have been killed by the bears o.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:08:03
Just inevitable at this point* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 22:05:41
126 to -1 in 4th quarter yards. Just unreal* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 22:05:32
We were going to have 1st and Goal to go up 24-6.* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:05:23
0-17 - timmer September 8, 2025, 22:03:48
- Do you hate Luke? I’d never wish that on him.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 22:04:50
- Scratch that - timmer September 8, 2025, 22:04:30
- Can he play O-line?* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 22:04:22
It's just a loser organization* - UIHuskie September 8, 2025, 22:03:27
Aaron Jones is 212 years old and he’s killing them. * - illini September 8, 2025, 22:03:15
- he hasn’t lost to the bears in forever.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:05:25
- That was mason* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:03:35
There seems to be no leadership anywhere on this team. Everyone scared* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:02:52
john fox: it’s all a problem.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 22:02:48
The Bears, man* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 22:02:11
Complete meltdown.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 22:02:09
This is not a well coached team. * - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:02:07
What a collapse. Season is over.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 22:01:58
What a fucking collapse* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 22:01:51
THE ARISTOCRATS* - VIV September 8, 2025, 22:01:46
Sadness* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 22:01:20
JFC Caleb he was open by 12 yards. * - illini September 8, 2025, 22:01:11
Yikes* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 22:00:45
JC Caleb* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 22:00:02
There’s no way all the receivers are this covered up* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 21:59:59
Catch that* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 21:59:59
Still can’t just cut anything loose at the top of a drop. Wtf is going on* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:59:26
Vikings realized they can rush 5 and we will completely fold* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 21:58:35
finally.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:58:18
I swear that was a personal foul last night in the SNF game * - MC September 8, 2025, 21:58:02
11 penalties for 122 yards. missed fg. and missed 4th down conversion. not good bob.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:56:10
a good team would respond with a TD drive here...* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 21:56:09
8 point penalty* - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:55:34
Just awful by Sewell. Let jones run right by him* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 21:55:31
That call sucked * - MC September 8, 2025, 21:55:30
Man, you guys are getting hosed.* - voiceofreason September 8, 2025, 21:54:50
Credit where due - jj has been way better than Williams this half. Way way* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:54:49
- JJ has had time. Caleb hasn’t. Same ahit as last year. Fucking Poles* - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 21:57:44
  - It’s much much more than that. He’s made legit very good throws under pressure while - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:58:32
    - Williams misses a couple. So has McCarthy - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 22:01:16
      - Williams is running for his life because he can’t get rid of the ball in sequence - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 22:08:50
- The RB wheel(?) route is great for unproven QB since it’s a good matchup RBvLB* - MC September 8, 2025, 21:56:43
#SOBEARS - timmer September 8, 2025, 21:54:39
This is bullshit!* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:54:20
Looked like he tripped and Stevenson ran into him* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 21:54:17
Ref show* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 21:54:16
Absolutely awful* - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:54:13
FUCKING TERRIBLE* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:53:58
Tough call* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 21:53:46
This better be fucking blatant* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:53:33
Just once. Just one "win because of" guy. It's been over a century.* - Sammich September 8, 2025, 21:52:56
- ...well, Devin Hester. - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:53:42
Offensive line just isn’t good enough* - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 21:52:12
One TD drive by the offense that was largely a shoestring effort by Caleb making something out of - Blazer September 8, 2025, 21:51:58
Gashing in all phases. I hate this* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:49:49
Feels like a busted coverage deep ball TD is coming our way.* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:48:55
I feel like I’ve watched this bears game 100+ times* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:48:52
- Truly playing all the hits tonight* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:53:52
- We’ve seen it to start pretty much every year in recent memory - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 21:51:07
We in trouble.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:47:09
awful 2nd and 3rd down play calls.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:47:06
I may have been premature in declaring JJ the worst QB of the class. Hmm* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 21:46:48
- Eat shit* - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:48:02
  - That’s unnecessarily aggressive.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 21:53:13
*sigh** - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:46:36
Wtf was that call* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 21:46:31
No matter the year, personnel, staff, it’s the same shit* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:46:07
Just completely melting down* - UIHuskie September 8, 2025, 21:46:06
Absolute dogshit series. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:46:04
- Seriously. Just an absolute mind boggling shit sandwich* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:47:12
That all too familiar feeling* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:45:40
Sigh, o line* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 21:45:24
This Bears team is not very good* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 21:45:17
a good team would respond with a TD drive here...* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 21:42:55
- 3 plays, minus 9 yards, sigh* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 21:46:07
- Instasack* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 21:45:00
Please bench JJ on your key two point xonversion* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:40:57
"it's not a penalty, but I understand why they called it"* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:40:44
ball don’t lie there.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:40:34
Great tackle* - shua September 8, 2025, 21:40:20
We’ve found a new winner for most useless rules analyst* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:40:04
- But I can understand why he called it. Lol* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 21:41:03
- No kidding* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:40:39
Sit down* - RVA September 8, 2025, 21:40:01
The chin is on the face, I suppose* - timmer September 8, 2025, 21:39:46
This is such fucking bullshit* - Carl Spackler September 8, 2025, 21:39:46
Absolute bullshit. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:39:44
Get the fuck right out with this bullshit - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 21:39:43
That wasn’t the face* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 21:39:43
Wow. Fuck these refs* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:39:41
Bend over again, Bears* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 21:39:40
FFS Joe* - illini222 September 8, 2025, 21:39:40
Are you fucking kidding me? We had two guys get held* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:39:24
- We are getting truly well fucked tonight* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:39:51
Oh well, it was nice to have a lead* - timmer September 8, 2025, 21:38:29
This is gonna end poorly isn’t it* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:38:27
There you go Sweat!* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:38:15
Board come on* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:36:05
- Byard I mean* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:37:24
This is infuriating. All of it* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:35:17
God dammit, just an absolute bullshit call from that ref. Infuriating* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:34:12
- If Williams hits Kmet it doesn’t matter* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 21:35:29
  - If the referee does his job, he doesn’t need to hit Kmet* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:37:07
Terrible kick. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:34:00
Holy fuck what an awful kick* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 21:33:57
Jesus* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 21:33:28
9 penalties for 107 yards.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:32:20
hopefully Santos can hit this 50 yarder* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 21:32:19
- derp* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 21:33:55
- narrator.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:33:43
Was it grounding bc it didn’t get back to the line?* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 21:31:00
- yes* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 21:31:12
Gross, Caleb* - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:30:03
LOL Jesus Caleb.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:29:58
LOL* - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:29:35
If we somehow blow this game it will be because of that phantom hold. Was about to be 24-6* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:29:06
- It’s amazing how much holding goes uncalled. And then they call that* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 21:31:03
Caleb needs to hit that throw. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:29:03
- Kmet kind of looked like he settled then moved. I don’t know. It was high regardless* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:31:20
- Yeah. That was wide open* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 21:30:32
Little too much zip on it* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 21:29:02
Man you just gotta complete that one* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:28:58
Refs are fucking the Bears in this game* - Carl Spackler September 8, 2025, 21:28:42
more like Juice Williams* - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:28:38
Come on * - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 21:28:36
Come on!! Wtf!* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 21:28:32
Fuck right off ref - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 21:28:22
WTH was that call?* - illini222 September 8, 2025, 21:28:20
Come on ref* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 21:28:13
Wtf was that.. Come on man* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:28:11
Another terrible call* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:28:11
so. many. penalties.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:27:52
Damn ok swift.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:27:28
What a great drive from Swift* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:27:11
A good run!!!!!* - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:25:39
- And another. Hot damn.* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 21:27:15
how about one of our 2 tes over the middle at some point?* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:23:49
Caleb is damn slippery and sneaky fast. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:23:12
- yes.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:25:55
- Peyton keeps yelling at him to throw it away before Caleb instead runs for the first down* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 21:24:02
- Was he this slippery and fast looking last year?* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:23:53
A rare good Stevenson play* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:20:19
That still didn’t describe at all what happened. Is punching the ball contact that immediately stops - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:19:26
- That’s how I always understood the rule. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:21:17
  - I think you can interpret it from the rules - RVA September 8, 2025, 21:29:13
  - You think the ball is considered part of the runner's body?* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:27:52
  - That’s interesting. So in theory then if you reached out to touch a rb diving forward and - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:26:58
Weird that hitting the all first doesn’t matter* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 21:19:23
What the hell was that explanation? - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 21:19:14
- ooo - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 21:21:04
Who the fuck is this rules dork that didn't address anything about anything?* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:19:00
Um. That was not an explanation* - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:18:52
- Hahaha wtf was that?!* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:19:43
  - he fully misunderstood the question I guess - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:20:49
    - Did he think they were reviewing targeting?* - RVA September 8, 2025, 21:23:03
      - That's right Troy, it's not a penalty to punch the ball! - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:25:19
- Not at all*I - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 21:19:15
- Fired.* - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 21:19:05
Am I missing something?* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:17:24
Lol did we get the ball before contacting him* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:16:37
Is punching the ball contact? Because that was the first and only contact before the ball came out* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 21:16:17
That’s lighting a timeout on fire. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:16:14
- That could be a game changing overturn.* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:17:51
Boy uh....he hit the ball first huh* - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:16:00
- the ball was out before the defender contacted the ball carrier. will they have the balls to reverse - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 21:16:42
Bad challenge. That’s not getting changed - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 21:15:40
- This is absolutely worth a challenge* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:18:18
- I think you are right. But it’s closer than I originally thought. * - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 21:16:39
- Nah, I think that's worth the challenge* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:16:18
  - I think YOUR FACE is worth the challenge - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 21:17:00
Man that's a great punch but there no way they overturn that.* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:15:38
Reasonably happy with Caleb, thrilled about the defense, super concerned about the OL* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:13:54
Duvernay is the gunner too? That's fun* - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:12:08
Why didn’t Caleb get a roughing call on that pass? He took a hit to the shoulder and head - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 21:11:15
- Justin Fields never got those calls for us either. I blame racism.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:13:16
- He's not a good catholic* - OrangeSox September 8, 2025, 21:11:45
Feels like it’s been 2nd and long every time* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:10:31
- Run game has been really bad* - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:11:40
  - terrible.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:14:04
the pertimeter blocking is lol bad.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:10:00
Great throw. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:09:21
- No, great route and *terrible* defense, VIV.* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:10:23
  - Ok* - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:11:05
    - If you want to give credit Caleb, you'll have to start your own thread.* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:12:39
- More please!* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 21:09:35
Wow, Vikings defense sucks. Lol.* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:09:15
1080p on the ESPN app * - jdl September 8, 2025, 21:08:51
way too many penalties.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:07:33
Has hippolyte (sp?) been in? I’m terrible about identifying them.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 21:07:15
- On special teams at least, which is probably all they expected for this season.* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:08:13
Would like to see Caleb pull the trigger on this drive* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 21:05:21
- Yes.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:07:13
- Need to go downfield to WRs to feel good. Please go downfield.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 21:06:15
  - I guess we just have to keep asking for it. Again?!?!* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 21:09:40
  - I'd rather focus on winning* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 21:08:48
Is Montez Sweat alive?* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:04:53
- Weird time to post this* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:05:42
  - He makes a lot of money and I never see him make a play. Our practice squad guys are. - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:06:58
    - Sure but the D is balling out. We can worry about Sweat later. This has been fun* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 21:08:56
      - For sure. Just want to see the big man succeed.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 21:11:33
I thought this guy was supposed to be a game manager* - RVA September 8, 2025, 21:03:52
- He’s a coach on the field* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 21:04:39
lol, dude from the practice squad wearing 69 on defense - assassin September 8, 2025, 21:03:08
- 2nd best DE from Villanova ever Tanoh Kpassagnon* - VIV September 8, 2025, 21:04:55
- I thought he was cut* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:03:42
Sewell has made a couple of nice tackles* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 21:02:35
- He has looked good* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 21:03:56
We sure TJ Edwards is better than Sewell?* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:02:29
In hindight, letting a 28 year old Darnold walk for this guy should have been questioned much more* - snipes824 September 8, 2025, 21:01:41
- Paying huge money to Darnold would have been bad too though.* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 21:05:19
  - 33.5M/year with an out after year 2 is pretty average in the NFL* - snipes824 September 8, 2025, 21:13:44
- I was just going to post that Darnold is in Seattle laughing.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 21:02:25
johnson probably would’ve dropped that. lol.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 21:00:03
Justin Jefferson with a business decision pretty early in that one* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 20:58:39
- He'll be requesting a trade by week 3* - OrangeSox September 8, 2025, 20:59:22
Nice.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 20:58:03
So Caleb is only the second worst QB from that class. Whew. * - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 20:57:52
- I still believe in Caleb, he never has a clean pocket and has to constantly Houdini.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 20:59:38
Hahaha what a terrible pass. Shades of Levis* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:57:37
Lol. Ball don’t lie* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:57:34
JJ falling flat on his face at the end of the run was *chefs kiss* * - Blazer September 8, 2025, 20:57:27
Thank you, JJ* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 20:57:18
- Yep. * - harb September 8, 2025, 20:57:36
lol. McCarthy is very bad* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 20:57:16
Hell yeah. Finally* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 20:57:07
PICK MFING 6* - VIV September 8, 2025, 20:57:04
Thanks jj* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:56:59
Wtf on that call. Unbelievable.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 20:56:06
Aikman is wrong about everything. That’s a terrible call.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 20:55:55
- Announcers rarely, if ever, call out bad calls - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 20:56:29
That can’t be a penalty in tackle football* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 20:55:31
You have got to be fucking kidding me with that call. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 20:55:14
Fuck that bullshit call. - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 20:54:55
No fucking way. I mean what the fuck* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:54:49
- Just put the QBs in flags if that’s the standard now. Fuck* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:55:57
Is there no one open down field or can Caleb not find them? Which is more concerning?* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 20:53:57
- Kind of looks like he is seeing but just not pulling the trigger* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:54:31
  - You have no idea, stop it* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 20:55:59
Horrible.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 20:53:52
That looked like last year* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 20:53:49
Well that was terrible. Still only like 2 completions truly in rhythm* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:53:31
woof, bad series there for Caleb* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 20:53:16
Lol love the Ben Johnson reaction shots* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:53:14
Welp, now I’m worried* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:53:11
that’s about as bad as you can look coming out of the half.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:52:55
Good lord is Berman obnoxious* - bjl63 September 8, 2025, 20:44:45
- He’s probably not writing his own material but Emeka “Peek” Egbuka is a great one* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:50:23
Generally happy. But a lot of that is JJ being bad* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:38:56
I’ll never understand the late half/game stop trying defensive philosophy* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 20:38:02
- Not sure I saw that, it was just a #4 CB getting beat on a route then a guy making a 59 yard FG* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:40:25
  - Yes didn’t look too soft* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:42:28
    - same. NFL players makes plays sometimes. Looks like Nailor did that * - MC September 8, 2025, 20:44:59
Giving up points there is a bummer* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 20:37:01
8 total yards for our two big weapons we took in the first two rounds. * - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 20:36:14
- The OL still stinks, I think the weapons are good. That was a nice return by Burden.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 20:43:55
- rome is not looking like difference maker, that’s for sure.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:37:24
  - He was talking about Loveland and burden* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:38:32
Raise the crossbar, shorten the width of the uprights - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 20:35:47
- Yes. They need to do something to make it harder* - bjl63 September 8, 2025, 20:37:03
  - idk watching some kickers yesterday, it seemed hard for some. * - MC September 8, 2025, 20:44:02
NFL kickers are insane* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 20:35:10
Not even trying to get 5 more yards is interesting * - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:34:26
Ben Eberflus? - Randle McMurphy September 8, 2025, 20:34:18
chickenshit defense at the end of the half.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:33:52
Shit* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:33:15
I've seen enough - JJ is a bust * - MC September 8, 2025, 20:32:16
should be up 2 scores with that kind of domination.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:31:34
Kick the fucking field goal.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 20:30:11
This asshole better kick it* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 20:30:01
Am I the only who thinks Johnson looks like he has jaundice?* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 20:29:48
Just take the points. You get the ball, use that to double up* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:29:48
Has Burden been in yet? Maybe not the best second round pick when this Z guy seems to be ahead of - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 20:28:31
- I think the Z guy is really good * - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:35:44
  - this.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:38:38
- Saw him out there briefly.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 20:31:18
I am ready to see some Monangai* - VIV September 8, 2025, 20:28:12
Man I can’t wait for Boomer’s Fastest 3 Minutes* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 20:27:44
- WOOOOOP* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 20:31:28
  - It has been too long!!* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 20:38:45
Pretty huge 3rd down here* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:26:23
- Very nice* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:27:22
More MONANGAI, less Swift* - Carl Spackler September 8, 2025, 20:24:31
Everyone so open a blind man could complete these throws - Troy* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:23:40
That guy plays in the NFL?* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 20:23:17
That’s the kind of passes we need to see!* - shua September 8, 2025, 20:23:07
CTFO with the false starts * - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 20:22:54
Get it together Jonah Jackson* - Carl Spackler September 8, 2025, 20:22:34
BENJO IS GONNA HAVE TO CHOKE A BITCH* - VIV September 8, 2025, 20:22:29
jfc* - Orangeillini September 8, 2025, 20:22:14
ffs.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:22:02
Ok come on, need to get up 2 scores here* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:20:44
McCarthy ain’t it* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 20:18:14
agreed. need moar cleaner pockets.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:16:37
I’m not sure we’ve fixed the OL problem. * - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 20:14:11
- Our tackles looks bad, interior seems ok.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 20:22:08
Weak gold call* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:12:59
Ok this is just insane now from Aikman. Seriously fuck off* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:12:12
- Yeah…would have been an easy completion if he had just lobbed it out there!* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 20:14:20
- Manning-cast* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 20:14:11
  - Haven’t watched them, how have they been treating the two QB performances so far?* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:16:42
    - They root for all QBs. Pretty impressed by Caleb’s start. Since then have been a bit distracted by - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 20:18:22
  - Just can’t do it, I like to hear the sounds of the game and not have half the screen cluttered* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:15:27
    - But no Aikman or Buck.* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 20:16:47
  - Same. * - harb September 8, 2025, 20:14:31
There’s no excuse to lose this game if that’s all JJ McCarthy is going to do* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 20:08:14
McCarthy was super late getting that out. Half tick earlier and JJ gets that 1st easily* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:07:35
- Just texted my Vikings fan friends the same thing.* - voiceofreason September 8, 2025, 20:09:38
Sewell seems ok* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:06:27
Don’t think this offense is to the point yet where I like going for it there. - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:05:14
- False starts were the difference on both of the last 2 drives though* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 20:06:13
  - yes.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:08:03
- absolutely * - assassin September 8, 2025, 20:05:55
Yikes* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:04:06
too cute. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 20:03:46
kick the damn ball.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:03:25
Boy am I glad we waited for that cartoon. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 20:02:24
- Over a decade into that slop, still can’t figure out who exactly it’s for* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:06:19
- ABC too cheap to pay for Twist and Shout* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 20:04:19
Is that 3 or 4 false starts? Geez!* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 20:00:59
- terrible. at home too.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 20:03:55
- 3 - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 20:02:06
How is Caleb not getting sacked on these * - gvibes September 8, 2025, 20:00:41
COME ON WITH THE PRESNAP PENALTIES. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 20:00:35
Caleb’s hardcount is a little too good. * - assassin September 8, 2025, 19:59:48
Caleb normally has good style. He looks sloppier than Barney Frank with the undershirt.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 19:59:14
- Nipples protruding?* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 20:04:51
When he really steps into a throw, man that’s some good shit* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 19:57:34
- Effortless velocity * - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:58:39
  - Exactly. Didn’t looked strained and came out hot* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 20:01:22
Cool story about your Astronomy class, Joe* - Blazer September 8, 2025, 19:56:18
Let’s connect with a WR down the field. Come on boys!* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 19:54:28
- There we go!* - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:57:34
- Ask and you shall receive.* - DocWalk20 September 8, 2025, 19:57:31
  - Damn, that was easy. Lol.* - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 19:58:06
I know it's not his narrative but that wasn't a great pass Troy* - illini222 September 8, 2025, 19:50:15
- How dare you. That was purely a great play design and execution - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 19:53:31
- Amazing leadership though to get them that fg.* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 19:53:16
So, you can stop and get run over and get PI every time then * - assassin September 8, 2025, 19:50:00
- Yes? Particularly if that is where the ball is and defender isn’t looking* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 19:50:59
Huge reward for a terribly thrown ball. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:49:40
Turn around* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 19:49:29
- Every now and then I get a little bit terrified, I see that fuckin look in your eyes. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:50:08
Maybe the tape would show something else, but Jackson has looked like a turnstile a couple times* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 19:43:55
- I’ve only noticed jones and dalman so far* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 19:47:07
- Well, he wasn’t a starter last year was he? Probably for a reason. * - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 19:46:09
Was McCarthy that good in college?* - Taz September 8, 2025, 19:42:55
- He was good at what scUM/Harbaugh asked him to do - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 19:47:17
- No* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 19:45:15
Slight worry that we haven’t had a single on time completion yet. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:42:51
I wonder if they’re gonna point out every open receiver that mccarthy misses* - Herman Blume September 8, 2025, 19:42:23
- Not sure McCarthy has even looked down field yet* - OrangeSox September 8, 2025, 19:43:42
  - More like, looking down at the ground!* - shua September 8, 2025, 19:44:12
enough with the wr screens!* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 19:42:19
OL looking shaky.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 19:42:04
- including a penalty on rp’s first pick.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 19:43:10
I called DJ Moore as RB right when they drafted Burden!* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 19:40:07
Man Caleb looks extra slippery* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 19:39:47
Dayo has already exceeded my expectations * - gvibes September 8, 2025, 19:35:21
Brendon Ayanbadejo with a great special teams tackle* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 19:34:23
I think Bears will end up 2nd in division and sneak into the playoffs* - opey8 September 8, 2025, 19:33:46
Bears Super Bowl and Illini National Championship.* - Toonces September 8, 2025, 19:32:29
Nothing on time. Nothing down the field. No running game. Still got a TD* - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:31:25
- Seriously. And it continues. But not forcing anything at least* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 19:39:02
Why aren’t we running WR screens with Deandre Carter as the lead blocker anymore?* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 19:30:36
- I was kidding, Ben!* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 19:41:51
Amazing what good coaching can do.* - voiceofreason September 8, 2025, 19:29:41
- Not having 320 lbs black men hanging on the QB helps* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 19:30:19
  - Also true. Scheme plus protection is a helluva drug.* - voiceofreason September 8, 2025, 19:31:09
Welp, this is pretty obviously going to end in a parade* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 19:29:11
Awesome run by Caleb. * - harb September 8, 2025, 19:29:09
Yes!!* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 19:28:59
SUPER BEARS SUPER BOWL* - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:28:44
17-0* - John Coctostan September 8, 2025, 19:28:41
Nice first series!* - TarheelIllini September 8, 2025, 19:28:39
I really like Kyle Monangai* - opossum jenkins September 8, 2025, 19:25:20
- I can’t get him out of my head* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 19:29:15
It’s wild, with this booth in particular every thing about Caleb is framed in a negative context* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 19:21:32
Wtf undershirt is Caleb wearing lol* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 19:21:06
The absolute goat of Star spangled banner singers. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:14:17
- Wayne Messmer is better* - TarheelIllini September 8, 2025, 19:31:21
  - no.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 19:46:12
- No idea who that was* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 19:16:24
  - Jim Cornelison, sings the anthem for Blackhawks games - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 19:25:23
    - It was terrible, but great choice to fire up the Chicago crowd so it doesn’t matter.* - voiceofreason September 8, 2025, 19:30:44
    - Yeah I cringed a couple of times. But that’s the only time I’ve heard him * - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 19:27:53
    - Eat shit* - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:27:22
      - ooo - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 19:31:43
      - Lulz* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 19:28:17
Is Joe Buck’s hair trending yet?* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 19:03:52
My reaction if the Ben Johnson/ Caleb Williams thing fails - VIV September 8, 2025, 19:02:14
- It's gonna happen!* - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 19:14:52
- Such a great tv show* - Sounder September 8, 2025, 19:03:31
God we need to win another SB so we can stop trotting the 85 folks out there - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 18:25:46
- Eat shit.* - Chuck Woodaby September 8, 2025, 18:31:22
  - ooo - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 18:48:31
Going back to the field, they resodded Thursday and you can see every seem - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 18:10:33
- Well sure, 4 days isn't enough time for new sod to take hold - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 18:24:37
  - As much as I hate the playing surface and how little the park district cares, I’m guessing - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 18:41:28
    - There was a 50/50 shot there was going to be a home game this weekend. - Illiniphil September 8, 2025, 18:53:03
The defense is decimated* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 17:58:03
- The Vikings are missing several key guys too. Next man up* - bjl63 September 8, 2025, 18:02:04
I think I’m at about 25% excitement / 75% dread right now. Please let this be fun, for once* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 17:45:28
- Remember Khalil Mack’s first game? - illini September 8, 2025, 19:19:59
- Yeah. I was concerned about the defense if healthy. And it is very not* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 17:48:18
sounds like jj and tj are out?* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 17:29:48
- Vikings LT Darrisaw out, in addition to Harrison Smith. Both JJ and Kyler Gordon out. - OB25 September 8, 2025, 17:48:38
Open letter from Kevin Warren re: building the new stadium in Arlington Heights - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 16:06:58
- The point is that Kevin Warren just wanted attention* - UIHuskie September 8, 2025, 16:17:37
  - Ha, exactly. He'll weasel his way into the booth tonight, for sure* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 16:35:42
Bears didn't elevate any DBs from the practice squad - AintHatin September 8, 2025, 15:32:18
- just more incompetence.* - Ari Gold September 8, 2025, 17:50:34
- I choose to believe Biggs* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 15:54:28
Nothing new but this is absolutely pathetic and inexcusable for week 1. - OB25 September 8, 2025, 14:57:42
- Fuck the Chicago Park District* - bjl63 September 8, 2025, 16:18:55
- Pathetic and what a workout.* - gullit September 8, 2025, 15:19:23
- Woof* - illini21 September 8, 2025, 15:15:20
- Soldier just had some five-day marathon of concerts. But AFAIK no concerts until 2026. - osklister September 8, 2025, 15:08:07
- how in the fuck does that even happen? - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 15:02:31
  - 5 straight nights of concerts through Labor Day, and PD has never invested in improving the field* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 15:14:10
    - To be fair, I never said I would* - PapaDels September 8, 2025, 18:41:22
    - I get the need to maximize monetization, but how can they not think it will impact - Sounder September 8, 2025, 15:33:05
      - They don’t care* - Carl Spackler September 8, 2025, 15:55:16
Jason Kelce went to Nisei Lounge last night.* - DiamondDazzle September 8, 2025, 13:55:07
- Imagine being Kylie Kelcie - Sounder September 8, 2025, 15:18:21
  - Just link to the meme or Twitter joke you're repeating next time.* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 15:56:02
- He was also at Jake Melnick’s* - bjl63 September 8, 2025, 13:59:22
  - It seems like his life is going pretty well* - Sounder September 8, 2025, 15:19:50
Seeing a lot of purple downtown Chicago today. LFG.* - Warrin'_Illini September 8, 2025, 12:50:50
The tackles picked before Loveland looked really good week 1 unfortunately. - gvibes September 8, 2025, 10:30:56
- So did Tyler Warren* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 10:38:22
  - Warren played pretty damn well. Our guy better be more "skilled".* - gullit September 8, 2025, 14:53:01
    - Yeah, hopefully. Hope poles isn't all "smartest guy in the room" again* - gvibes September 8, 2025, 17:47:46
Is Penix like Latinx, but for cocks?* - complainant September 8, 2025, 10:29:48
If McCarthy looks better than Caleb I may just give up. - OB25 September 8, 2025, 8:55:33
- I lean maye and mix were ass yesterday* - Mrap24 September 8, 2025, 15:33:17
- i'm very confident JJ McCarthy is going to be a terrible NFL QB - illiniranger September 8, 2025, 10:09:42
  - Yeah, I just don't get it* - Sounder September 8, 2025, 10:34:01
- That hit piece was total trash. Why you'd put any value on something a bears coach - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 10:02:44
  - Yeah I only saw snippets but it seemed like there wasn’t a lot of vetting being done* - OB25 September 8, 2025, 10:15:06
- Seriously. Side note that hit piece was something.* - gullit September 8, 2025, 9:10:44
  - Choosing the side of *those* former Bears coaches is something. - Chicago1995 September 8, 2025, 10:50:46
  - writer is a GB fan with a history of hit pieces. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 10:18:29
    - I saw a detailed Twitter thread that picked apart the poor journalism in that piece… - OB25 September 8, 2025, 11:05:04
      - his "source" was a dude from the Bear Weather Fans site - IlliniSax05 September 8, 2025, 14:54:28
    - Ah good to know.* - gullit September 8, 2025, 10:42:38
  - Something meaning "written by an eighth grade moron"* - longsnapper September 8, 2025, 10:03:18
- I forgot about JJ in my initial post. But I'm with you. If JJ outperforms Caleb tonight, it will be - LovetheChief September 8, 2025, 8:58:39
  - No it won’t. It’s one game* - bjl63 September 8, 2025, 13:29:09
Local MN guys are saying the Vikings OL and DL should be very good and are - MC September 8, 2025, 8:54:05
- They did paid Greenard only about 75% of what Sweat cost (ignoring draft comp) - gvibes September 8, 2025, 9:00:13
already have the pregame nerves. * - VIV September 8, 2025, 8:47:40

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