Probably super dumb question...but here goes...
How much are Plan Discounts for a charge affected by the type of plan, or does that not matter? Example: Rough numbers from an EOB Billed by Provider: $840 Plan Discount: $700 I know these Plan Discounts can be enormous, but do they vary much whether a PPO vs HDHP?  Previous Message
Anyone know of a good calculator to compare past costs to see which plan we'd be better off with? (Not certain our plan selection website has one.)
Also, reasons why we haven't switched...
1) I'm risk adverse.
2) I'm getting old.
3) Don't recall premium savings being that much. Maybe $1500 to $2000 a year for family coverage.
4) We have several hundred dollars of labs drawn annually which end up just a $25 to $30 co-pay. This year a daughter had a few thousand in labs drawn that ended up costing a few hundred. If it would have all been out of pocket with a HDHP, we easily made up the premium difference.
5) We don't (can't) max out our 401(k)s & Roth IRAs as it is. No way we'd be able to take advantage of maxing out a HSA to use as an IRA.
6) In the past with the PPO we had a pre-tax savings from the plan that had to spent on healthcare. Catch was it was capped and had to be used in that calendar year. Now, it appears we may have an HSA (at least that what it's called) even with our PPO. Probably will not get the potential retirement savings, but still will have pre-tax savings that can be spent on healthcare.
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 For those with a family HDHP, do you fund the entire deductible in your HSA? - snipes824 October 29, 2025, 10:13:41
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- I'm on pins and needles waiting to see what the premiums are gonna be* - Sammich October 30, 2025, 12:23:45
- Between premiums and payments, I'm north of $55K this year. - uofi1998 October 30, 2025, 11:43:23
- I don't get paid shit for salary but I do have the cheapest premiums of anyone I know - Taz October 30, 2025, 14:54:25
- holy shit* - VIV October 30, 2025, 13:14:23
- Woof...I'm just shy of 20K and thought I was getting fucked. I'll be quiet now. * - haighter October 30, 2025, 12:46:13
- whoa* - EffinIllini October 30, 2025, 12:33:08
- I HATE IT1!!* - Warrin'_Illini October 30, 2025, 11:47:16
- That is asinine* - snipes824 October 30, 2025, 11:47:11
- I'm learning the limits of the term "out of pocket maximum" this year* - Sammich October 30, 2025, 11:44:50
- I can't talk myself into a HDHP for our family from a PPO, though maybe we should. - EffinIllini October 30, 2025, 10:49:50
- Yes we fund to max ($9550 this year) - and use a debit card for purchases - jfinsocal October 29, 2025, 13:54:23
- Sidejack, I really need to understand the Mega Back Door Roth IRA* - Dilbert October 29, 2025, 13:23:37
- I treat it like an IRA: max it out, and pay for healthcare directly out of pocket.* - illinibone October 29, 2025, 13:18:13
- Now I max out the amount I save in it. Earlier on I did the deductible only, which is/was lower. - ATL October 29, 2025, 10:55:53
- If you have extra money it’s a great investment tool* - CoronaTheirAss October 29, 2025, 10:36:29
- I max out the allowable amount regardless of deductible amount - Dilbert October 29, 2025, 10:22:02
- I get $$$ put into my HSA by my company. - Carl Spackler October 29, 2025, 10:17:00
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