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Message Thread | This response ↓  record property tax increases slam chicago homeowners - Ari Gold November 18, 2025, 16:17:15 Tangential…for all the reports of our imminent demise…my friend just took a 105k price increase…. - haighter November 19, 2025, 9:41:52 Assume that’s ~10% over ask? Unfortunately (for buyers), that’s not even that bad in SF* - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 12:54:35 happens in chicago now, basically all the time. and most stuff sells in less than a week. at least - cpsteine November 19, 2025, 13:55:39 Yea...I'm not sure why he raised the listing from 1.495 to 1.6...but it'll be interesting to see... - haighter November 19, 2025, 14:00:14 In my experience it's very common to list your house just under a million - Sounder November 19, 2025, 14:10:37 Well now that crime in Chicago is at a decades low... - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 11:45:14 ooo - Ari Gold November 19, 2025, 12:48:15 Oh no! Less children under 5? - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 12:59:56 Serious question - Sounder November 19, 2025, 13:40:14 Good question to ask* - reggiedunlop November 19, 2025, 15:36:23 Basket of Services - we've kinda abstracted local government out to pick and choose what it spends - ijustkrushalot November 19, 2025, 14:55:35 schools and space* - gvibes November 19, 2025, 14:43:04 Forgot: Where the jobs are in some cases* - Chilango November 19, 2025, 14:41:55 Schools, space, cost, fear, peace and quiet - Chilango November 19, 2025, 14:40:04 4 of those 5 are valid* - Sounder November 19, 2025, 14:41:18 Who am I to tell someone their motivation is wrong* - Chilango November 19, 2025, 14:42:26 I'm just saying the safety perception is mostly propaganda* - Sounder November 19, 2025, 14:49:02 I'm a city guy, but I have to disagree with you on that one* - jjlocke923 November 19, 2025, 15:13:24 I think he's mostly right* - Chilango November 19, 2025, 15:15:23 I'm not saying it's not safer in the suburbs, of course it is - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:18:26 I guess that makes sense if you're talking about the chance of actually getting hurt* - jjlocke923 November 19, 2025, 15:20:12 Schools and space* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes November 19, 2025, 14:29:31 All of the above and more?* - Chicago1995 November 19, 2025, 13:46:27 We moved to the suburbs when we had mini because I don't think I could have handled - ATL November 19, 2025, 13:42:51 Seattle famously has more dogs than children* - Sounder November 19, 2025, 13:39:10 Sounds beautiful* - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 13:53:51 I'm not mad at it - Sounder November 19, 2025, 14:11:59 ooo - VIV November 19, 2025, 13:09:39 Point tooken.* - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 13:10:39 This drives me crazy (not referring specifically to you, Ari). But, the graph you showed is a huge - reggiedunlop November 19, 2025, 12:54:33 I'll leave this to the Chilangos of the world who are doing it successfully... - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 13:10:05 Thanks dude. - Chilango November 19, 2025, 14:27:26 Inconveniences are definitely part of it, but so is cost - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 13:15:00 Affordability is increasingly completely out of control - Sounder November 19, 2025, 13:42:19 It’s pretty much all housing and childcare - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 13:48:26 It feels like only the rich can afford children - Sounder November 19, 2025, 14:02:58 ...or, and hear me out, just tell people they should have more kids and do little to nothing.. - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 13:17:49 Yes, the GOP is awful. But I’d like the places that are run by democrats to deliver more - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 13:23:26 Is the cost of daycare significantly lower in the suburbs? Honest question. - longsnapper November 19, 2025, 13:55:43 It was maybe 20% cheaper in the burbs vs Chicago. - Carl Spackler November 19, 2025, 14:40:20 Been a long time, but I don't think it was noticably different in the burbs for us. - Chicago1995 November 19, 2025, 14:18:53 I've yet to find a suburb that feels as small town as an actual city. And by small town, I mean - longsnapper November 19, 2025, 14:24:52 Late to the thread but I agree a lot here…maybe some of it is bias… - haighter November 20, 2025, 8:24:09 It's rare that I see, let alone meet, a neighbor when I visit friends or families in the burbs. - longsnapper November 20, 2025, 8:54:52 My experience is completely different - Chicago1995 November 19, 2025, 14:36:20 I spent a week in Peoria a few months ago - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:13:52 I have no basis to compare. - Chicago1995 November 19, 2025, 15:23:02 Are you embarrassed when you tell your friends you are from Peoria? - jjlocke923 November 19, 2025, 15:17:36 I'm actually quite proud of it, do you tell all your friends you're a huge cunt?* - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:23:19 I only said that because usually you reference all of the bad things about it. - jjlocke923 November 19, 2025, 15:26:39 My whole point is that it's way worse than it used to be - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:28:51 I also think different folks have different level of "surburbia" tolerance - ISeeDeadHawkeyes November 19, 2025, 15:02:54 Very true. - Chicago1995 November 19, 2025, 15:27:15 The thing that always strikes me about visiting my family in Peoria area - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:30:58 Same with the Quad Cities - Chicago1995 November 19, 2025, 15:59:44 Think you also have to consider distance from the city - ISeeDeadHawkeyes November 19, 2025, 15:29:04 Distance to the city definitely matters. - Chicago1995 November 19, 2025, 15:58:07 Too many choices is overrated - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:25:16 Pre-war suburb vs post-war suburbs. - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 15:14:20 too much caffeine.* - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 15:14:20 I have no idea. I assume maybe not. I’m speaking purely from a core HCOL city perspective - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 14:02:52 I have a hard time reconciling that the suburbs are some magically cheaper place. - longsnapper November 19, 2025, 14:21:26 I can’t speak for Chicago. I can speak for NYC, Denver, and the Bay Area - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 14:39:46 Yes, but that's just a single metric. It's not a solvable or definable equation, I know, but - longsnapper November 19, 2025, 14:58:58 Now that I'm older and go out way less than I used to - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:32:33 Every situation is unique. If that’s yours, I get it - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 15:08:13 Both A and B are massive massive problems in this country - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:33:58 Your take on this matter is absolutely insane to me - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:04:31 It might be the primary "reason" people do it, but it doesn't make it a certainty. - longsnapper November 19, 2025, 15:21:23 affordable space* - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:35:20 Yep, unused sitting rooms included with every purchase!* - longsnapper November 20, 2025, 8:46:37 Ewww...don't East Bay... * - haighter November 19, 2025, 14:46:59 Would love not to, but when I face the market reality… - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 14:55:38 I absolutely loved living in Walnut Creek - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:01:32 Too far out for me, and more true suburbia - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 15:10:25 When we moved to Seattle, our baseline for what we wanted in a neighborhood - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:27:20 Yep, we’d kill to be in Rockridge. It’s unfortunately entered the SF pricing tier for the most part* - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 15:33:14 It's kind of funny to have moved to Seattle from the Bay Area - Sounder November 19, 2025, 15:37:12 Yes, this is what I am saying. Also, you shouldn't be limited on how many kids you can have - reggiedunlop November 19, 2025, 13:25:19 Yeah there’s absolutely no chance we can have a second kid purely based on cost* - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 13:31:50 IMO, in the modern world, anyone who has more than 2 kids - Sounder November 19, 2025, 14:04:21 And we need to change that* - reggiedunlop November 19, 2025, 14:04:44 I have conflicting thoughts on this topic - Sounder November 19, 2025, 14:09:34 To put it more clearly, Dems have done almost nothing in these cities to promote families to - reggiedunlop November 19, 2025, 13:26:28 Most new units being built in cities are studios and 1BR’s - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 13:36:00 *Ding* So look at all the "cities" gaining these families with youth that Ari shared - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 13:46:19 Exactly. It’s a big problem. I wish there would be a broader mix of unit types in newer builds - snipes824 November 19, 2025, 13:52:22 correct. but the public schools / property taxes don't help either.* - Ari Gold November 19, 2025, 12:57:11 My kids have awesome schools - Chilango November 19, 2025, 14:09:39 yeah the schools in Winnetka are crap* - Poldark November 19, 2025, 14:36:06 Reductio ad Absurdum from the town drunk - Chilango November 19, 2025, 14:37:47 "they would be worse in ANY Chicago suburb" - Poldark November 19, 2025, 14:44:31 0o0o0 - Chilango November 19, 2025, 15:13:35 Re: 0o0o0 - Poldark November 19, 2025, 15:48:46 “Chicago Parent” - Chilango November 19, 2025, 20:56:23 thanks, trump* - VIV November 19, 2025, 8:42:25 that's pretty much the politics thread?* - Ari Gold November 19, 2025, 12:44:46 oh, just following precedent. * - VIV November 19, 2025, 12:47:57 Maybe they should start properly reassessing taxes on new construction and renovated properties - deadpoolOG10 November 19, 2025, 8:41:51 Gotta make up for flagging revenue due to Trump’s economy somehow - ATL November 18, 2025, 17:28:13 if 2 out of 3 ain’t bad, then 3 out 4 has to be good?* - Ari Gold November 19, 2025, 7:17:48 I'm just waiting for a Republican president in my adult lifetime to leave the economy better than he - ATL November 19, 2025, 8:21:49 This one won't be able to do it even with multiple tries.* - KingTalkyTiki November 19, 2025, 13:48:48 You should definitely move out of the city. - KingTalkyTiki November 18, 2025, 16:45:06 wisconsin's looking pretty good at this point!* - Ari Gold November 18, 2025, 16:50:27 Try paying property taxes in both places... - KingTalkyTiki November 18, 2025, 16:56:09 Twitchy trigger finger.* - KingTalkyTiki November 18, 2025, 16:45:06 Suck it, home owners* - timmer November 18, 2025, 16:28:14 like landlords aren't passing it off to renters* - torinese November 19, 2025, 10:51:18 Boomers getting off light if you ask me.* - Warrin'_Illini November 18, 2025, 16:32:59 By dying off before the full ramifications of their 40 years of shitty stewarding kick in? - KingTalkyTiki November 18, 2025, 16:50:22 It will go down in the books that boomers fvcked up this country permanently* - timmer November 18, 2025, 16:49:35 100%* - KingTalkyTiki November 18, 2025, 17:01:41 « Back to index | View thread »