and are willing to trade away next year’s 1st with no (or very little) protection, I just don’t see how they’d have the assets to trade up.

Even Giddey apparently isn’t viewed as the type of asset that can get you from #15 to the 5-7 range, at least based on some stuff I’ve read or listened to, so their own 1st next year is probably the only card they have left to play.

And if a guy like Philon or Carr could potentially be there at 15, I don’t see it being worth giving up that asset to turn one of them into Wagler/Flemings instead.