The Deuce: He's better than Darnold, who won a Super Bowl last year*

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He's better than Darnold, who won a Super Bowl last year*

Posted by Sounder

on October 12, 2026, 11:11:35, in reply to "It's a reasonable comp... and I also think another team would mortgage its future for Herbert."

Previous Message

...but I also think Stafford was and is head and shoulders better.

Herbert has been given a lot and done very little with it... certainly, injuries are out of his control, but he's far from the first QB to deal with shit like this.

The list below represents the indisputable no-brainer upgrade Herbert would be... and a longer list would represent a likely or arguable upgrade...

Giants
Vikings
Saints
Bucs
Falcons
Cardinals
Jets
Dolphins
Browns
Steelers
Titans
Texans
Colts
Broncos
Raiders

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NFL Week 5 thread. Well, one of my favorite story lines has already resolved. Sean Payton - voiceofreason October 8, 2026, 16:23:13

FF rollercoaster last night for me - VIV October 13, 2026, 08:09:55
- *MAJOR UPDATE* - VIV October 15, 2026, 22:56:36
- In one league I was up 3 and done, my opponent had Mevis going - AintHatin October 13, 2026, 13:14:42
- I once lost a weekly matchup because a QB kneel down at the end of the game - Gene Parmesan October 13, 2026, 08:39:34
btw to your storyline, seems like a Nix problem not a playcaller problem* - gvibes October 13, 2026, 00:28:26
Why do these teams care so much about wasting time in sudden death OT?* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 12, 2026, 22:45:37
- If you are talking the opening drive, optimum strategy is to receive and try to use - gvibes October 13, 2026, 00:29:10
  - The opening drive is not sudden death* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 13, 2026, 07:12:02
    - Right that’s the point. If f you use all ten minutes to score than the other team - CoronaTheirAss October 13, 2026, 07:30:21
      - That's not sudden death. That's not what my post was referring too* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 13, 2026, 07:39:17
        
        The.ln in that case if you miss the FG not to give it back to the other team* - CoronaTheirAss October 13, 2026, 13:06:23
      - yeah, what am i missing here?* - Ari Gold October 13, 2026, 07:35:40
        
        The original context of my post - CanHartlebHireSnider October 13, 2026, 07:49:55
- Thank you Joe! Just kick the FG!!* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 12, 2026, 22:47:39
  - Yeah. I guess they figured out the SD thing finally. * - harb October 12, 2026, 22:48:25
- And they get in FG range and just mash it for no gain* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 12, 2026, 22:46:05
  - with a RB who is praying he can fall down still possessing the ball - OrangeSox October 12, 2026, 22:52:38
Wow. Rams kick is tipped and short. Bills with a chance. * - harb October 12, 2026, 22:42:26
Almost another bungled end of game moment there. Have to spike immediately.* - Carl Spackler October 12, 2026, 22:21:20
- I think Stafford was in control plus they had a timeout. Don’t give Allen time* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 12, 2026, 22:23:09
  - If he gets stopped there, only have 1 more play.* - Carl Spackler October 12, 2026, 22:24:51
thinking McVay should've called a timeout at 2:30+ with the Bills facing a 2nd and 17* - ECEIllinois October 12, 2026, 22:11:11
Allen refusing to slide even 5 yards after getting the 1st remains crazy. Playing with fire* - John Coctostan October 12, 2026, 22:04:52
Bills/Rams….interesting game so far. Bills can’t find the end zone but moving the ball pretty well - harb October 12, 2026, 20:00:31
Hear me out but LAC should start shopping Herbert and use their first on a QB - MC October 12, 2026, 09:35:02
- Herbert has always been overrated. Looks the part, puts up good numbers - bjl63 October 12, 2026, 10:24:42
  - He’s dumb as a rock. Can't process. Physically gifted and not much else. - voiceofreason October 12, 2026, 20:14:58
- they should sack OC Mike McDaniel. - Poldark October 12, 2026, 09:46:58
  - he's been hot garbage. * - VIV October 12, 2026, 11:40:06
  - Should be coaching a quirky offense in the WAC (or whatever it's called now)* - uofi1998 October 12, 2026, 11:21:25
- Think they’d get quite a bit more than a first rounder.* - Carl Spackler October 12, 2026, 09:36:13
  - I'm skeptical of that. - Sammich October 12, 2026, 10:23:54
    - That’s basically a younger Stafford when he was traded, right? - Carl Spackler October 12, 2026, 10:27:52
      - It's a reasonable comp... and I also think another team would mortgage its future for Herbert. - uofi1998 October 12, 2026, 11:09:37
        
        He's better than Darnold, who won a Super Bowl last year* - Sounder October 12, 2026, 11:11:35
        
        No he isn’t. Way more to QB play than the rocket arm.* - voiceofreason October 12, 2026, 20:17:26
        
        Physically, sure. But he’s underachieved going back to college - bjl63 October 12, 2026, 11:18:39
        
        Yeah I'm sure... and I think he's better than a lot of other guys like Hurts and Daniels... - uofi1998 October 12, 2026, 11:13:31
      - Fair point - Sammich October 12, 2026, 10:38:17
        
        Sometimes a change of scenery is all it takes* - Sounder October 12, 2026, 10:54:12
        
        Or just moving down the hall, in this case* - uofi1998 October 12, 2026, 11:24:53
  - Oh yeah that’s probably right. Also he has a no trade clause so no idea if he would even move * - MC October 12, 2026, 10:04:43
Ten minute OT with the new rules is nuts. Also Declan Doyle is legit - CanHartlebHireSnider October 11, 2026, 22:40:32
Jameis Winston is insane, and largely stinks* - memyselfandillini October 11, 2026, 21:07:38
Big play by Sydney Brown - larue33 October 11, 2026, 19:44:03
Mike Evans is having a day * - ATL October 11, 2026, 18:18:03
- Looking at the guys jersey was kind of legendary* - Sounder October 12, 2026, 10:26:17
  - How many future HOFers on the 49ers current roster... at least 5 right? - uofi1998 October 12, 2026, 11:24:24
    - Brock Purdy is a baller.* - Warrin'_Illini October 12, 2026, 11:31:45
      - Huge fan... pride of Gilbert, AZ... has the IT that Herbert does not... * - uofi1998 October 12, 2026, 11:33:54
        
        I remember the post here when we offered him* - ECEIllinois October 12, 2026, 20:12:52
Chargers TD run one of the best I've seen in a long time...17-10 LA/SD over Denver* - RSMBob October 11, 2026, 17:20:59
Some really bad, really dumb football this weekend* - OWWDig October 11, 2026, 17:05:20
- the mismanagement of games is a virus. - Poldark October 11, 2026, 17:08:40
Wow, the Texans gave up a 2 for MHJ! Didn’t see that coming.* - Carl Spackler October 11, 2026, 15:49:29
- I'm absolutely shocked the Texans are going to bail out the Cards' mismanagement again* - uofi1998 October 12, 2026, 11:21:00
- And at the same time, rewind 3 years and think how crazy it is that he’s only worth that* - OB25 October 11, 2026, 15:58:33
Omg Washington! I was yelling at the screen haha. What a screw up.* - Toonces October 11, 2026, 15:46:58
- What a brain fart* - Ron McDon October 11, 2026, 15:49:38
- Imagine if Caleb messed up like that* - bjl63 October 11, 2026, 15:47:51
  - Eberflussed. Their coach should take a ton of heat too.* - Toonces October 11, 2026, 15:49:47
  - didn’t that kind of happen in detroit 2 years ago?* - Ari Gold October 11, 2026, 15:49:02
The great Jayden Daniels butchered the last play* - bjl63 October 11, 2026, 15:46:57
- Well they should have kicked it before the previous play. Bad all around - CanHartlebHireSnider October 11, 2026, 15:48:47
  - Yep. * - harb October 11, 2026, 15:55:28
  - It’s like they don’t realize the game is over if they make the fg.* - Toonces October 11, 2026, 15:51:48
- inexcusable.* - Ari Gold October 11, 2026, 15:48:14
Wtaf washington * - ISeeDeadHawkeyes October 11, 2026, 15:46:45
- that was a wonderfully awful game.* - Ari Gold October 11, 2026, 15:47:35
holy shit what was that?* - apusikam October 11, 2026, 15:46:22
Master class on clock mismanagement by Washington* - illini222 October 11, 2026, 15:46:18
lol* - shua October 11, 2026, 15:46:03
Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. JUST KICK THE FG!!!!* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 11, 2026, 15:45:56
- Coaches all with handwritten FIRE ME signs taped to their backs * - memyselfandillini October 11, 2026, 21:06:49
- Giants too!!* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 11, 2026, 15:46:34
Looks like Drake Maye is back* - bjl63 October 11, 2026, 14:34:26
lol all-time ending in London* - illini21 October 11, 2026, 12:15:48
- The best! You stink, Sirianni!!! - memyselfandillini October 11, 2026, 12:18:46
- the lovie squib!* - Ari Gold October 11, 2026, 12:17:16
Adam Schaffer is a caricature of himself now. Jumps the gun on the Marvin Harrison trade - voiceofreason October 10, 2026, 11:39:47
Absolutely insane not to take the FG there and now I’m actively rooting for it to cost them* - meanjeans October 8, 2026, 21:51:25
That makes no sense at all. Make it a 3 score game!* - John Coctostan October 8, 2026, 21:50:54
How are we still letting this guy announce games? - Carl Spackler October 8, 2026, 21:08:26
- You’re right, Kirk Herbstreit should be put to death.* - Toonces October 8, 2026, 21:35:52
  - In public, they're in Texas* - illini222 October 8, 2026, 21:50:04
The Cowboys look completely uninterested* - illini21 October 8, 2026, 20:23:58
- Mega ass from Dallas tonight. * - VIV October 8, 2026, 21:14:27
Tangentially nfl related...whatever Kay Adams did to her face is terrible - IlliniSax05 October 8, 2026, 17:53:50
- Loomeresque* - ATL October 11, 2026, 17:15:08
- Well…. - Mrap24 October 8, 2026, 22:19:19
- I hate so society so much for forcing this bullshit on people. * - MC October 8, 2026, 20:39:46
- oh no, kay* - VIV October 8, 2026, 20:29:21
- What the actual fuck* - illini21 October 8, 2026, 20:26:04
- That can’t be the same person.* - voiceofreason October 8, 2026, 18:05:06
Hilarious that HOU is winless after all the hype* - bjl63 October 8, 2026, 17:34:13
- Imagine thinking they would crushing their 9.5 ou wins. * - MC October 8, 2026, 17:35:04

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