I just googled ... I think it's 8 weeks Archived Message Posted by ab75 on May 3, 2022, 13:55:47, in reply to "Missouri has a six week ban" And, this appears to be a difference, I don't think a ban after 8 weeks is a full ban on abortions. I do acknowledge that some people don't realize they are pregnant for more than 8 weeks. In this thread, when I suggest there won't be bans, I was suggesting full bans, not bans after X amount of time or restrictions. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/missouri-revisits-8-week-abortion-ban-as-laws-are-challenged-nationwide Previous Message There's your carveout and exception otherwise no abortions. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Rumblings that Roe v Wade= Ed Martin - Carl Spackler May 2, 2022, 19:54:41 WTF is going on?!?! - ATL May 20, 2022, 19:16:20 It’s the people’s convoy, but not the people’s RV.* - DT May 20, 2022, 19:41:04 Maybe it’s just Clarkson, Hammond, and May? - ATL May 20, 2022, 19:48:48 Leopards eat faces? Whoulda thunk* - RangerDanger May 20, 2022, 19:24:21 I had to click the article to see if he actually said this - snipes824 May 20, 2022, 19:02:26 How about if they count for just 3/5 of a person?* - IlliniRunner May 20, 2022, 19:07:28 No more magic crackers for Nancy Pelosi. - doubledown May 20, 2022, 16:31:41 Lol amazing. The worst people* - illini21 May 20, 2022, 19:15:01 LOL He's an antivaxer too.* - ATL May 20, 2022, 16:40:56 Wonderful little organization they’re running there. * - doubledown May 20, 2022, 16:54:19 I really don’t think this is the convincing argument in favor of the Founders that she thinks it is. - ATL May 20, 2022, 12:53:27 Kandiss* - Herman Blume May 20, 2022, 15:35:46 As in Kandiss crazy person please shut the #### up? * - doubledown May 20, 2022, 15:46:01 ooo - ATL May 20, 2022, 15:37:04 Good thing he limited it to American Indians* - ijustkrushalot May 20, 2022, 15:06:31 *wipes sweat off brow** - ATL May 20, 2022, 15:13:17 hoo boy - biclops May 20, 2022, 14:24:57 I had to google the Georgia Guidestones, and in fairness, they're pretty weird. - Sammich May 20, 2022, 15:29:12 Running a very distant third if anyone is wondering* - gvibes May 20, 2022, 15:26:52 When you have to out crazy Kemp and Purdue, you’ve got to go all in* - shua May 20, 2022, 16:26:03 Your modern GOP folks. - IlliniRunner May 20, 2022, 15:15:53 LOL - DocWalk20 May 20, 2022, 15:14:29 I'm here to battle Luciferian name spellings* - ATL May 20, 2022, 14:26:24 I came to kill Indians and worship Jesus, and I’m all out of Jesus.* - DT May 20, 2022, 13:53:21 We're also running pretty low on Indians. * - doubledown May 20, 2022, 13:56:14 Ah yes, the noble sacrifice of the native americans* - gvibes May 20, 2022, 13:17:17 It was incredibly kind and stupid for them to do that, but thanks!* - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 14:00:08 These ####ing people. * - doubledown May 20, 2022, 13:06:58 Well, for the base she's courting, it certainly is* - IlliniRunner May 20, 2022, 13:01:57 Again, we really should just listen to these people. They tell us what they want - John Coctostan May 20, 2022, 12:50:45 if there's one thing i've learned over the past few years it's that state legislators are ####ing - biclops May 20, 2022, 14:13:24 It’s not that surprising. Running for election has to be incredibly miserable - DT May 20, 2022, 15:11:57 That’s why republicans want to leave everything to the states - snipes824 May 20, 2022, 14:14:57 Here’s what I don’t get - Desert May 20, 2022, 13:42:00 Because if we all continue to have the pre-marital, protected sex... - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 14:02:02 Their sect requires them to be all up in everyone else's business. * - doubledown May 20, 2022, 13:58:00 Because they think they are right and everyone else is wrong - opey8 May 20, 2022, 13:43:54 "American Taliban" needs more usage* - ghost_of_clt May 20, 2022, 13:01:06 Unfortunately the issue isn’t “do you support banning birth control”, the issue is “are you so - meanjeans May 20, 2022, 12:56:24 But that’s a false choice with these people. It’s not like she’s a ‘traditional’(*) republican but - John Coctostan May 20, 2022, 13:00:44 These are the same people the muppet thinks will “fix” Chicago. Just backwards-ass bad people.* - Toonces May 20, 2022, 12:55:09 aborted fetuses are powering the Washington DC electric grid - biclops May 19, 2022, 22:03:59 Deranged* - snipes824 May 19, 2022, 22:52:21 Shameful that someone like that gets any airtime - jayd May 19, 2022, 22:28:38 ooo - complainant May 19, 2022, 22:55:37 Haha that’s amazing* - illini21 May 19, 2022, 22:20:56 Batshit insane. I've never met a pro-lifer who wasn't religious. And I've never met an anti-abortion - complainant May 19, 2022, 22:15:22 Child of someone who worked at one of those fake abortion clinics —->>>* - gvibes May 19, 2022, 22:28:52 Nm* - illini21 May 19, 2022, 22:20:13 The stupidest ####ing people. * - doubledown May 19, 2022, 22:13:40 We're so ####ed as a society* - opey8 May 19, 2022, 22:06:37 I’m lazy—when is the final ruling likely to come out?* - DT May 19, 2022, 7:50:14 Presumably June. - ATL May 19, 2022, 7:59:12 They really do just despise babies after they're born - RangerDanger May 18, 2022, 21:12:35 have any of them said why they voted no?* - biclops May 18, 2022, 21:20:53 Because the proper solution to this, like every other domestic problem, is tax cuts for the rich - DT May 19, 2022, 8:55:04 Except for Ukraine. Being tough against the Russians will just lead to nuclear war* - CoronaTheirAss May 19, 2022, 9:12:12 you forgot, lax gun laws. - TarheelIllini May 19, 2022, 9:02:23 Bc it’s way more fun to bitch about something and point fingers than actually try and help people - Mrap24 May 19, 2022, 8:09:21 You know why* - WhitmansFolly May 18, 2022, 22:08:31 Expensive bandaid is all I can find. Not a whole lotta Reps want a soundbite on this one - RangerDanger May 18, 2022, 21:29:18 He’s my Rep! - DT May 19, 2022, 7:39:19 Good news, I can now get pregnant and have an abortion - bigbop85 May 18, 2022, 14:28:15 The energy you spend to prove you’re lack of kindness is astounding* - Desert May 18, 2022, 22:00:17 Thank goodness you can still get a safe and legal one. - KingTalkyTiki May 18, 2022, 16:16:17 Oh, and that kid BigBop wants to force you to have... - KingTalkyTiki May 18, 2022, 16:18:45 At the same time he's trying to - WhitmansFolly May 19, 2022, 7:23:23 Congrats! Let's all sign a card and send it to bop* - WhitmansFolly May 18, 2022, 16:07:23 You’ve gotten yourself in way too deep man. - OB25 May 18, 2022, 16:05:52 We all know you already believe in fairy tales* - illini21 May 18, 2022, 15:17:54 Do you have a uterus? * - Taz May 18, 2022, 15:13:47 I'm sorry Taz but that doesn't make me any less of a woman* - bigbop85 May 18, 2022, 15:21:40 I'm not judging you either way, but it's sorta a requirement to get pregnant and have a baby* - Taz May 18, 2022, 16:44:49 But, can you bring home the bacon? Fry it up in a pan? - osklister May 18, 2022, 16:34:11 do it then, or shut up* - assassin May 18, 2022, 14:34:45 Just a hunch, but neither of those options are likely. - Kajagoogoo May 18, 2022, 14:53:54 there is something call a trans man. look it up* - gvibes May 18, 2022, 14:34:21 Chicken curry stir fry* - Chilango May 18, 2022, 14:29:15 I’ll leave this letter to Chief Justice Roberts, here - TarheelIllini May 15, 2022, 19:04:45 That liberal hack* - KCWildcat May 15, 2022, 19:14:58 We really should just listen to these people. They’re telling us what’s coming next - John Coctostan May 14, 2022, 9:25:03 So I assume we can put him down for a muskets-only interpretation of the 2A? * - doubledown May 14, 2022, 9:41:15 Why is this new right so hateful? Unmitigated hypocrisy to create a bigoted society. Disgusting* - Desert May 14, 2022, 12:12:23 Trump showed them that they could let their freak flag fly. - doubledown May 14, 2022, 14:57:52 The hate has always been there below the surface - opey8 May 14, 2022, 13:00:23 The modern GOP coalition was formed from opposition to equality for blacks - DT May 14, 2022, 13:38:19 Almost. There's still no explanation for great plains and western Republicans remaining with the par - complainant May 14, 2022, 14:04:23 Well, the Great Plains is the Bible Belt, and is also very white - DT May 14, 2022, 14:07:34 I thought The Matter With Kansas was their not wanting policies which would - complainant May 14, 2022, 15:05:33 Yes, that was the framing - DT May 14, 2022, 18:02:32 I expect a full rollback until only muskets are allowed* - WhitmansFolly May 14, 2022, 10:28:38 Clarence Thomas - biclops May 14, 2022, 9:01:46 Whose house was she at? * - Samricky May 14, 2022, 10:06:19 Run’s house* - VIV May 14, 2022, 15:49:10 Our house. * - doubledown May 14, 2022, 10:17:05 And a very, very fine house indeed* - timmer May 14, 2022, 10:27:29 With two cats in the yard* - TarheelIllini May 14, 2022, 19:00:42 This is much more offensive to me. - Samricky May 14, 2022, 10:20:58 No one gives a #### what you think old man* - Drippy May 14, 2022, 12:21:56 That is true, and I am at peace with that. * - Samricky May 14, 2022, 12:25:10 Yeah, you seem like you’re at peace. * - doubledown May 14, 2022, 14:58:44 Very much so. Sitting poolside with a beer after a little yard work. Life is good. * - Samricky May 14, 2022, 15:26:32 you’re the biggest snowflake here; you’re offended by everything.* - suburbanmyth May 14, 2022, 10:28:00 You’re the fattest midget here, so there’s that. * - Samricky May 14, 2022, 10:31:49 #owningdalibs* - WhitmansFolly May 14, 2022, 11:51:51 The hypocrisy of some of these people is unbelievable - jayd May 14, 2022, 9:04:23 ACLU says hold my beer - bigbop85 May 11, 2022, 23:46:01 This Senate abortion vote is such a joke - Sounder May 11, 2022, 16:42:11 Good to see majority rule is still the law of the land* - bigbop85 May 11, 2022, 19:11:30 The entire framework of American Constitutional governance was designed to inhibit majority rule.* - complainant May 12, 2022, 0:29:35 First, that vote wasn't an accurate representation of the will of the people. - theBard May 11, 2022, 20:05:14 Headline of the vote for me was that 49 Senators supported abortion up until birth - bigbop85 May 12, 2022, 8:42:04 And the senate by design isn’t a majority rule thing anyway * - ATL May 11, 2022, 20:36:07 Thanks, Slavery! * - doubledown May 11, 2022, 20:46:31 Which is why all the yelling at the Dems to do something is so laughable. - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 16:53:44 These are the leaders we deserve.* - Warrin'_Illini May 11, 2022, 17:36:23 a 50/50 Senate shouldn't be considered a "majority" - Sounder May 11, 2022, 16:57:07 They don’t have the policies. * - Samricky May 11, 2022, 16:55:06 As opposed to the very popular republican policies on abortion? Just how high are you man?* - Toonces May 11, 2022, 17:31:57 I can’t decide if I want West Virginia to have a republican or if it’s better to have Manchin keep - Samricky May 11, 2022, 16:44:03 lol the Joe Manchin that endorsed Biden, voted to convict Trump twice - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 17:26:15 I’ve got no beef with Mancin - DT May 11, 2022, 18:08:56 Agree completely* - snipes824 May 11, 2022, 18:24:35 I think Sinema is terrible, but she isn't some mindless twit who wouldn't see that strategy - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 18:23:32 Oh, she would definitely be in on the game - DT May 11, 2022, 19:41:14 agreed; word is ron klain has zero soft skills* - suburbanmyth May 11, 2022, 18:22:19 Agreed beef should be with dem leadership and WH - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 18:16:12 that is completely false* - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 18:22:04 No it isnt - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 18:30:35 The bill was cut and cut again. And he continued to lower what was acceptable to him - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 18:36:56 Joe was always including the $1.2 bipartisan infrastructure bill and stimulus - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 18:47:50 ooo - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 18:35:04 He was clear about his demands. - gnpbfubbgre May 11, 2022, 18:33:36 Of course they could have also realized that had 50-50 majority - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 18:32:40 Or do show votes like this abortion bill. I think there is a bill to be had, but the one they put up - gnpbfubbgre May 11, 2022, 18:34:54 They weren't getting 60 votes for any bill - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 18:42:37 Well there was no chance for a bill that basically is an abortion advocate wish list. - gnpbfubbgre May 11, 2022, 18:49:24 There is no way that any bill that supported any sort of abortion protection - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 18:51:46 OK cool, well you got your show vote. We'll see what happens from here.* - gnpbfubbgre May 11, 2022, 18:52:40 Yep my frustration too. They did the same with their voting reforms - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 18:55:40 Describe to me what sort of voting law that would get 10 GOP votes. - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 23:52:29 did you know that manchin gave schumer and the WH specifics on what he would.... - suburbanmyth May 11, 2022, 18:23:13 I know that the bill shrunk by 75% from what was initial proposed. - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 18:33:53 LOL at using numbers the moron Bernie proposed* - JeffFrank May 12, 2022, 7:07:16 Sure and they would then undercut their own negotiations. They bungled it with him hard - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 18:36:44 Such lame efforts at brow beating him. Eff the squad* - JeffFrank May 12, 2022, 7:08:18 Well you put it that way, probably better he stays in office. * - MC May 11, 2022, 17:32:56 Absolutely* - UofIL6 May 11, 2022, 17:45:07 Any time Dems get a 'left-based' vote from WV, it's a gift. The angst over him makes no sense - UofIL6 May 11, 2022, 16:49:25 Yes. Fire her into the sun. Manchin sucks, but is far better than the alternative* - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 16:54:15 Manchin is as good as it's going to get in WV - Sounder May 11, 2022, 16:51:21 It's a distinction without a difference - Sounder May 11, 2022, 16:48:58 Of course it isn't. Since it gives the Dems control of committees. And he'll vote for judges - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 16:55:37 You mean the committees that don't seem to accomplish anything?* - Sounder May 11, 2022, 16:58:05 Do you want the likes of Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley and leading committees - IlliniRunner May 11, 2022, 17:12:25 Honestly, I don't really care any more - Sounder May 11, 2022, 17:29:21 The 1/6 committee is the house not the senate - CanHartlebHireSnider May 11, 2022, 17:35:03 Buried below. Should all Down’s babies be aborted?* - JeffFrank May 10, 2022, 20:05:43 What Would Hitler Do?* - Stu May 10, 2022, 20:31:00 Not endorsing either option. Genetic testing leads to these decisions* - JeffFrank May 12, 2022, 7:17:07 Why?* - Philo May 10, 2022, 20:20:32 Source. Please don't give him any attention* - opey8 May 10, 2022, 20:25:22 I like how the supreme court overturned laws against protests around abortion - gvibes May 10, 2022, 14:45:50 also, eugene volokh says there are logs on the books preventing protests around - suburbanmyth May 10, 2022, 15:24:32 ooo - CanHartlebHireSnider May 10, 2022, 15:42:58 There's a section in 18 USC making it a crime to picket around a judge's home OR a courthouse - ATL May 10, 2022, 15:41:34 just absolutely burying their credibility in a way that i could not have hoped for..... - suburbanmyth May 10, 2022, 14:58:23 The Supremes overturned federal mask mandates while conducting hearings remotely* - ATL May 10, 2022, 14:55:49 susan collins called the cops about ####ing sidewalk chalk* - assassin May 10, 2022, 14:47:12 ooo - ATL May 10, 2022, 19:55:01 ishpitchbot - DT May 11, 2022, 18:02:19 some pretty great polling for dems here... - suburbanmyth May 10, 2022, 13:18:38 killing me softly.... - suburbanmyth May 10, 2022, 11:40:02 Author needs a calculator* - ghost_of_clt May 10, 2022, 12:01:32 The funny thing? - GMAW May 10, 2022, 11:45:37 i'd have to go back to their hearings but i think she was least dishonest when.... - suburbanmyth May 10, 2022, 12:11:26 Thread collecting all the bills, proposed bills, and wishes of GOP officials - John Coctostan May 10, 2022, 8:52:54 Evangelicals are like pigs in slop over this. - WhitmansFolly May 10, 2022, 9:32:51 They're like the dog who finally caught the car he was chasing. - GMAW May 10, 2022, 9:34:16 GOP senate quotes are all over the place in this politico spot - CanHartlebHireSnider May 10, 2022, 10:58:20 I'm still trying to figure out what the left is doing - OrangeSox May 10, 2022, 9:54:19 The left is fractured because they care about lots of things that are sometimes mutually exclusive. - doubledown May 10, 2022, 9:58:59 Nit. Tax cuts for the wealthy. Not their actual constituents.* - WhitmansFolly May 10, 2022, 20:28:26 I’ve been a little surprised to find out through this that I’m not as left on abortion as I thought - meanjeans May 10, 2022, 11:24:16 Kind of like my thinking. Get it done early or only if really needed later* - JeffFrank May 10, 2022, 14:56:13 Do you not think that's the reality of how it's happening right now? - Sounder May 10, 2022, 15:01:10 That’s 20,000 a year - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 15:19:32 1% after 21 weeks - snipes824 May 10, 2022, 15:08:01 I consider myself to be pretty pro choice, - Sounder May 10, 2022, 15:10:52 How many of those 1% are due to complications with either the fetus or mother? - snipes824 May 10, 2022, 15:13:30 Down’s babies?* - JeffFrank May 10, 2022, 15:50:19 for sure, this is a problem that doesn't really exist* - Sounder May 10, 2022, 15:17:21 That is why I am not rooting for it to be made illegal* - JeffFrank May 10, 2022, 15:05:39 Don’t think many of the rest of us are surprised* - snipes824 May 10, 2022, 12:08:12 keep the faith, hold the line, own the libs - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 10:28:44 It's classic Jeff that his biggest concern is protests outside the homes of the judges - GMAW May 10, 2022, 10:07:21 Go on about stripping a constitutional right - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 10:38:12 "The right for an abortion didn't come from the constitution, it came from the supreme court." - suburbanmyth May 10, 2022, 11:26:48 Please go on explaining Constitutional law to me, a lawyer - GMAW May 10, 2022, 10:41:17 I'll let RBG do it for me - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 10:44:08 If you want to talk about this different and completely distinct issue - - GMAW May 10, 2022, 10:53:52 That's what I'm getting at, they should have codified it - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 11:50:01 Why hasn't congress codified an individual right to own guns? The Constitution only guarantees - doubledown May 10, 2022, 12:40:12 You serious Clark?* - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 14:57:53 Absolutely. Throughout the Constitution, the framers used "people," "persons," and "person" - doubledown May 10, 2022, 15:35:47 He’s not really concerned about that either. * - doubledown May 10, 2022, 10:08:02 He's Susan Collins-ing the shit out of it, though* - GMAW May 10, 2022, 10:09:05 Calling the cops for sidewalk chalk is a real great idea* - John Coctostan May 10, 2022, 13:08:50 She is a metaphor for out of touch politicians* - Sounder May 10, 2022, 15:11:25 Oops - this should be below Jeff's post, but I'm not moving it* - GMAW May 10, 2022, 10:07:59 the mid-left is wondering why they voted for Dems - Sammich May 10, 2022, 9:57:56 100%. Wash, rinse, repeat.* - KingTalkyTiki May 10, 2022, 11:04:20 This is extremely accurate* - OrangeSox May 10, 2022, 10:27:23 Damn* - Taz May 10, 2022, 10:01:20 I am disappointed Psaki and the Dems won’t discourage protests at judge’s homes* - JeffFrank May 10, 2022, 10:00:34 she did yesterday after not doing it Friday* - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 10:41:38 Still dancing around with some whataboutism* - JeffFrank May 10, 2022, 19:56:38 They kinda did - MC May 10, 2022, 10:06:56 Yes, they should only be threatened in private by the President. * - doubledown May 10, 2022, 10:06:12 they've got heaps of ideas on what to do now* - Sammich May 10, 2022, 9:52:41 There are a bunch of crazies who want to troll the left because that's their reason to exist - GMAW May 10, 2022, 10:05:04 they don't have any plan, so the crazy's plan gets enacted....or haven't the last 5+ years told us - TarheelIllini May 10, 2022, 10:13:16 Because a bunch of pro-choice (in private) politicians are suddenly faced with actually having to - Taz May 10, 2022, 10:12:43 Exactly. Which is why my dog chasing the car analogy is apt - GMAW May 10, 2022, 10:38:09 I disagree, there's always another culture war to be fought. They can also do what - Warrin'_Illini May 10, 2022, 11:22:57 Nationwide abortion ban, then gay marriage. * - doubledown May 10, 2022, 9:50:04 Ban on condoms - why??? * - MC May 10, 2022, 9:04:17 GOPers have never found any small enough to fit* - longsnapper May 10, 2022, 9:13:11 Because rich people will still get sex education & abortions if necessary. Poor people - longsnapper May 10, 2022, 9:06:54 Because they ruin the xes* - HamptonSki May 10, 2022, 9:06:20 because sex is for procreation between a man and woman who are married to each other* - Sammich May 10, 2022, 9:05:13 Mayor of third largest city says this decision is a call to arms - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 8:06:11 you're such a dumbass* - cpsteine May 10, 2022, 15:22:02 since when are we against people using the 2A to defend their freedoms? * - ijustkrushalot May 10, 2022, 8:17:17 I can't believe you take it literally* - bjl63 May 10, 2022, 8:07:58 Oh so now we aren’t taking politicians literally - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 8:25:13 Just grab 'em by the pu$$y and throw them in jail! - WhitmansFolly May 10, 2022, 9:31:23 Leading theory is that the leak came from a conservative justice’s office per Nina Tottenberg, who - ATL May 9, 2022, 20:29:39 ooo - bigbop85 May 10, 2022, 9:59:10 i tend to believe it's from the right. if it had been the left in outrage of the pending decision - VIV May 10, 2022, 11:24:20 wouldn’t that be something - biclops May 9, 2022, 22:09:37 Yeah. And if so, it would be two insurrections by the right in 18 mo's * - Dark Knight May 9, 2022, 23:01:01 Honestly who give a #### about the leak. Dem leadership of course nowhere to be found. - Warrin'_Illini May 9, 2022, 23:40:17 It's quite worrying that she thinks that republican party ever existed. - Warrin'_Illini May 9, 2022, 23:58:40 I agree our gerontocracy sucks.But what specific legislation on abortion would you like them to pass - IlliniRunner May 10, 2022, 0:21:32 I'm not expecting legislation, but even Gruesome Newsome called out leadership the other day. - Warrin'_Illini May 10, 2022, 0:32:16 As legislators, their actual power is to legislate - IlliniRunner May 10, 2022, 0:51:36 I don't hate the idea of offering a bill to legalize 1st trimester abortions* - ECEIllinois May 10, 2022, 1:25:33 ^^^^^^Should be under runner below.* - Warrin'_Illini May 9, 2022, 23:59:48 What would you like them to do?* - IlliniRunner May 9, 2022, 23:52:15 Not a great time to be a Republican candidate for Illinois Gov. - KingTalkyTiki May 9, 2022, 16:43:39 Is it though? - RangerDanger May 9, 2022, 22:15:45 He’s pro choice, he will just come out with that in the general - bigbop85 May 9, 2022, 22:01:52 i haven't analyzed the long footnote in the draft that talks about all of the SCOTUS precedent.... - suburbanmyth May 9, 2022, 13:24:09 You could make the case that was true for much of the Reconstruction casework - Blazer May 9, 2022, 16:00:49 Molotov cocktails in Madison, hopefully the President says something to take the temperature down - bigbop85 May 8, 2022, 12:49:48 Remarkably minor amount of damage. Did they they break in and throw the chairs and books around - doubledown May 8, 2022, 13:06:26 Google Maps shows 14 occupied suites on the sign for that otherwise generic office building - RangerDanger May 8, 2022, 13:16:17 Maximum PR with minimum damage. Miraculous! * - doubledown May 8, 2022, 13:25:03 You can tell the organization president's genuine concern for her staff's safety - RangerDanger May 8, 2022, 14:17:01 Weird coincidence that you happened to be in Madison to see the aftermath - RangerDanger May 8, 2022, 12:58:36 by the way, lots of great polling on this issue over the weekend; will try to find and post later... - suburbanmyth May 8, 2022, 12:35:48 Bigbop would have an Aneurysm if he watched SNL’s weekend update this week - illini21 May 8, 2022, 0:56:38 Solid episode honestly - bigbop85 May 8, 2022, 12:54:15 You're an idiot. - Kajagoogoo May 9, 2022, 16:16:09 You and your shitty kids should eat shit, muppet.* - Toonces May 9, 2022, 16:14:08 A kinder, gentler board* - bigbop85 May 9, 2022, 16:19:14 Eat shit, douchebag.* - Toonces May 9, 2022, 16:24:39 So the extent of your contribution to this forum is going to be a third person impersonation... - Illiniphil May 10, 2022, 8:36:15 Cry more lib!* - bigbop85 May 9, 2022, 22:02:27 Hey!* - JeffFrank May 9, 2022, 13:16:55 I think you had a little too much of christs blood this morning. Weirdo* - illini21 May 8, 2022, 13:16:18 As long as you perform the required rituals, you don't actually have to be a good person. - KingTalkyTiki May 8, 2022, 13:20:37 It’s quite the crutch* - illini21 May 8, 2022, 13:24:09 "Thankfully many of them won’t reproduce and will die alone." - KingTalkyTiki May 8, 2022, 13:15:14 is that a dig at me? - TarheelIllini May 9, 2022, 13:04:17 LOL..not at all man. - KingTalkyTiki May 9, 2022, 13:19:42 Arcade Fire on now* - JeffFrank May 8, 2022, 1:01:39 Love that song. This is a band I think Sounder and I could agree on* - JeffFrank May 8, 2022, 1:12:58 Can’t wait for the media to cover protests outside SC homes like they did PTO meetings - bigbop85 May 7, 2022, 21:41:29 Weird that wapo, Bloomberg, etc aren’t covering this* - gvibes May 8, 2022, 9:47:23 The media covered PTO meeting protests using words like "domestic terrorism" - gnpbfubbgre May 8, 2022, 11:44:29 Do death threats and physical confrontations not count as terrorism? - Toonces May 8, 2022, 11:55:58 they directly quoted school boards about the death threats they were receiving. cool. * - assassin May 8, 2022, 11:51:57 To quote yoyo, "are you stupid?" - gnpbfubbgre May 8, 2022, 12:01:30 LMAO at the need to always feel slighted - RangerDanger May 8, 2022, 12:36:48 got into the sunday funday a little early, i see* - assassin May 8, 2022, 12:12:50 He got attention which is all he cares about. Facts don't factor in* - opey8 May 8, 2022, 11:34:00 literally on the front page of the online version of the post - suburbanmyth May 8, 2022, 11:10:11 Sarcasm is tough on the internet* - gvibes May 8, 2022, 12:50:52 i didn't think you had it in you!* - suburbanmyth May 8, 2022, 13:03:36 on bloomberg's front page as of yesterday too* - suburbanmyth May 8, 2022, 11:11:47 I picture you looking like a try hard Tucker Carlson* - CWR10 May 7, 2022, 23:16:47 Eat shit muppet.* - Toonces May 7, 2022, 22:18:39 So wrong. My default is to take the other side of protestors. Woke idiots* - JeffFrank May 7, 2022, 22:09:43 If only they were more passive-aggressive. A slow campaign of, say, carpet-bombing - complainant May 7, 2022, 23:10:26 The other side has been protesting and Harrassing women for 50 years. * - assassin May 7, 2022, 22:31:59 also, murdering people and blowing shit up. * - assassin May 7, 2022, 22:41:48 But have GOP leaders half-heartedly tried to mollify them yet with promises - RangerDanger May 7, 2022, 23:27:15 Protesting at judges houses should be shut down immediately. Full stop* - JeffFrank May 7, 2022, 23:40:06 If only there were an amendment that allowed people to peaceably assemble.* - MojoJojo May 8, 2022, 11:04:41 18 U.S. Code Section 1507 - Picketing or parading - gnpbfubbgre May 8, 2022, 11:37:08 So the pro life protesters at the court building over the last 50 years were criminals?* - ATL May 8, 2022, 11:59:22 IDK I'm not a lawyer, but sure seems like protesting a decision under deliberation by a USSC - gnpbfubbgre May 8, 2022, 12:04:54 I think there’s a reason why that law has not result in massive numbers of arrests - ATL May 8, 2022, 12:06:45 Only takes one non peaceful person for it to get very ugly fast* - JeffFrank May 8, 2022, 12:08:37 It still doesn’t justify prior restraint * - ATL May 8, 2022, 13:04:46 Hopefully they do a lot more than protest.* - Toonces May 8, 2022, 0:19:06 Here’s the reasonable and peaceful left folks. Lol * - Samricky May 8, 2022, 9:41:11 You guys keep crying about the first amendment. You don’t deserve shit.* - Toonces May 8, 2022, 10:58:26 That’s why that attorney in St Louis and his wife were right to have their guns… - JeffFrank May 8, 2022, 1:14:21 If only she had pulled the trigger while she had it pointed at her husband.* - ATL May 8, 2022, 12:05:29 Huh, bet the media won't dare cover this--links video with a tv camera taking up half the frame* - RangerDanger May 7, 2022, 22:08:24 Though to be fair, to have the same type of coverage as before - RangerDanger May 7, 2022, 22:20:12 I'm sure Trucker and Faux will be all over it* - WhitmansFolly May 7, 2022, 21:59:15 You really need to get laid* - HamptonSki May 7, 2022, 21:50:21 Waaaah* - AintHatin May 7, 2022, 21:47:42 Again, meh - timmer May 7, 2022, 7:08:42 wut? gfy.* - cpsteine May 7, 2022, 9:11:01 At this pace of losing weight, it may be possible some day - timmer May 7, 2022, 10:16:30 Gotta be the whitest privilege I've seen you express so far. Congrats. - complainant May 7, 2022, 7:59:56 That’s racist!* - Dikta May 7, 2022, 13:06:20 49% of women women who get abortion are below the poverty line - Sounder May 7, 2022, 9:47:54 So the majority of women women can afford a weekend abortion getaway - timmer May 7, 2022, 10:17:20 I may head out to Hintertux next weekend for little glacier skiing, so, yeah* - timmer May 7, 2022, 8:46:25 Love listening to Pete B talk. He just gets it - UofIL6 May 6, 2022, 21:23:42 No he doesn't * - CubsWonWorldSeries May 7, 2022, 6:04:02 Oh I’m sure you have a great take on abortion, chief.* - Toonces May 7, 2022, 13:34:01 I wish he got supply chains, might help in his role as transportation secretary - bigbop85 May 6, 2022, 22:13:29 Too busy taking family leave to bother with his trivial job* - Stu May 7, 2022, 13:54:15 This post as a response to that video is *chef's kiss*. Well done.* - ghost_of_clt May 7, 2022, 8:35:52 Is the McKinsey background worth bragging about at this point? - Dilbert May 7, 2022, 6:30:32 Hey look over here! This unrelated thing might make you forget about the valid point he made* - PapaDels May 6, 2022, 23:01:59 His point wasn't valid, it was heavily biased - CubsWonWorldSeries May 7, 2022, 6:07:38 He’s a walking McKinsey pitch bot - bigbop85 May 7, 2022, 9:45:21 What big bill these days doesn't have an insane amount of spending on things - Taz May 7, 2022, 9:25:30 The Democrats own guy voted against it because it was so ridiculous* - CubsWonWorldSeries May 7, 2022, 16:37:49 You're again overlooking the point* - Taz May 7, 2022, 17:08:37 Weren’t you the guy who lambasted AOC for refusing to give Amazon $4 billion to move to NYC? - ATL May 7, 2022, 6:13:30 Because trickle down economics works so well! - WhitmansFolly May 7, 2022, 9:52:44 AOC cost her area tons of jobs, Chief * - CubsWonWorldSeries May 7, 2022, 6:15:03 Do you not think infrastructure is tons of jobs?* - snipes824 May 7, 2022, 8:44:09 I'm pretty sure that CWWS here has conflated two separate bills - CanHartlebHireSnider May 7, 2022, 9:59:21 Like yourself?* - CubsWonWorldSeries May 7, 2022, 16:35:38 You know Amazon moved to New York anyway right?* - JacobRDaugherty May 7, 2022, 6:57:35 And then the employees unionized. And then Bezos fired their mgmt.* - complainant May 7, 2022, 7:43:53 Speaking of that incident though, the NLRB is investigating Amazon’s attempts to prevent it. - ATL May 7, 2022, 7:58:29 Those aren’t the same workers. And bezos doesn’t run Amazon.* - ATL May 7, 2022, 7:56:00 ooo - ATL May 7, 2022, 7:39:35 Right….* - ATL May 7, 2022, 6:28:01 That's the entire GOP agenda, in a nutshell* - WhitmansFolly May 6, 2022, 23:50:14 If there’s one thing republicans won’t tolerate it’s wildly unqualified cabinet members* - Herman Blume May 6, 2022, 22:38:54 Or senators, or presidents, or.... - WhitmansFolly May 6, 2022, 22:45:41 And Texas says, hold my beer. - larue33 May 6, 2022, 17:31:04 fortunately, HB3326 has been in the Public Health committee since March 2021. - theBard May 6, 2022, 18:00:40 i'm sure bigbop has a poll that shows that most americans favor the death penalty for abortions* - suburbanmyth May 6, 2022, 17:53:14 A lot of folks really showing their ass here - AintHatin May 6, 2022, 17:35:18 let's see; this might too much for even the dems to eff up* - suburbanmyth May 6, 2022, 17:52:31 Delete - GMAW May 6, 2022, 17:53:45 that scenario is pure politics - snipes824 May 6, 2022, 18:25:12 Do we? You have a link for that? * - larue33 May 6, 2022, 18:11:30 Delete* - GMAW May 6, 2022, 18:31:52 Yeah, I thought that's what it would be. - larue33 May 6, 2022, 18:35:11 Correct. I should know better than to trust a tweet from the RNC - GMAW May 6, 2022, 18:36:13 You seem to be willing to ascribe good faith to actors who have never shown any in the first place. - ATL May 6, 2022, 18:41:32 need to roll Mayor Pete back out to talk about it - assassin May 6, 2022, 18:02:58 I wonder what would happen to the abortion debate if someone created a prenatal screening for - doubledown May 6, 2022, 12:01:01 Its going to profoundly affect care after prenatal testing - memyselfandillini May 6, 2022, 13:49:58 Unfortunately, the same people believe that homosexuality is just a choice - GrandmotherPearlsJam May 6, 2022, 12:51:14 So having an identical twin who is gay means you must be gay?* - memester May 6, 2022, 12:54:07 It means *you* are. - complainant May 6, 2022, 23:30:44 most genes dont work that way.* - memyselfandillini May 6, 2022, 13:44:57 Sounds like they’d be right to question the validity of the test then.* - memester May 6, 2022, 13:53:54 yeah there is no test, no gene* - memyselfandillini May 6, 2022, 13:57:18 Right, which is why I said “they’d be” not “they are.”* - memester May 6, 2022, 14:01:03 My bad, I was agreeing, did not do a very good job* - memyselfandillini May 6, 2022, 14:06:57 what if they're salmon colored?* - Sounder May 6, 2022, 13:51:02 those work on every level, obvi* - memyselfandillini May 6, 2022, 13:52:23 I'd still wear them, but the Covid 19 caught up with me* - Sounder May 6, 2022, 14:03:29 Stonewashing them - so money* - memyselfandillini May 6, 2022, 14:07:53 Remember when you were a kid - Sounder May 6, 2022, 12:53:30 explain Michael Barbaro* - bigbop85 May 6, 2022, 12:56:35 Sexual preference isn't black and white, as much as that is how you'd like your world to be - KingTalkyTiki May 6, 2022, 13:02:59 Oh I totally agree with all of that - bigbop85 May 6, 2022, 13:07:15 Dotz - Sounder May 6, 2022, 13:10:09 what do the different colors represent?* - TarheelIllini May 6, 2022, 13:49:27 looks like it's just the colors of the rainbow in somewhat ROYGBIV order - IlliniSax05 May 6, 2022, 13:50:49 Thank you.* - KingTalkyTiki May 6, 2022, 13:10:56 It's really not that complicated - Sounder May 6, 2022, 13:12:22 You see, Michael Barbaro is a podcast host* - Sounder May 6, 2022, 12:58:57 (wooosh)* - bigbop85 May 6, 2022, 13:00:58 I understood you perfectly, I'm just not going engage with a bad faith actor* - Sounder May 6, 2022, 13:02:21 Starting…now!* - assassin May 6, 2022, 13:12:55 Because they are brainwashed religious losers* - illini21 May 6, 2022, 12:55:35 Mr. T went on an anti atheist rant yesterday on Twitter - Sounder May 6, 2022, 12:58:00 Egg, were you that little boy?* - Chuck Woodaby May 6, 2022, 12:55:09 Honest answer, no, but I did grew up in the kind of place - Sounder May 6, 2022, 12:56:51 Me either. But I used to like to beat them up. - Chuck Woodaby May 6, 2022, 12:58:28 before we begin, allow me to set up this step ladder * - suburbanmyth May 6, 2022, 13:26:56 Does he actually talk like that or is it an act?* - Sounder May 6, 2022, 13:00:20 It's an act. That worked for far too long. - Chuck Woodaby May 6, 2022, 13:02:01 I learned a few days ago that Larry the Cable Guy doesn't even have a southern accent* - Sounder May 6, 2022, 13:02:53 Pride of Nebraska.* - Chuck Woodaby May 6, 2022, 13:03:42 A pretty decent percentage of the comedy of our lifetime is now probably problematic* - Sounder May 6, 2022, 13:06:40 Fun fact: Larry the Cable guy adopted a weimaraner from the same litter - Sounder May 6, 2022, 13:05:21 Similarly, if Texas ever goes blue - Sounder May 6, 2022, 12:38:40 Hard to groom a zygote* - longsnapper May 6, 2022, 12:05:30 Matt Gaetz is up to that challenge* - IlliniRunner May 6, 2022, 12:51:17 PR giant advising corporate clients to stay silent on abortion rights - bigbop85 May 6, 2022, 11:50:56 Giant that's a subsidiary of a company that posted this... - KingTalkyTiki May 6, 2022, 12:02:32 I'll bet this guy is very pro-life - ATL May 6, 2022, 10:59:49 Hoosiers gonna Hoosier* - KingTalkyTiki May 6, 2022, 11:40:29 I've driven through Lebanon on the way between CU and Indy - theBard May 6, 2022, 11:10:10 We had a kid on our floor from Lebanon.....for all 4 years - TarheelIllini May 6, 2022, 12:37:47 that's false imprisonment, brother* - Sammich May 6, 2022, 12:46:42 I mean he tried to escape indiana for downstate illinois - TarheelIllini May 6, 2022, 13:50:57 what is path to avoiding conviction here?* - suburbanmyth May 6, 2022, 11:04:17 Self-defense maybe?* - ATL May 6, 2022, 11:16:05 The defense circulating an old photo of him jet-skiing with his family* - RangerDanger May 6, 2022, 11:09:16 He was arrested in late March. His trial is in August - CanHartlebHireSnider May 6, 2022, 11:08:30 And only 3 people on the ballot for 3 spots. 1st and 2nd got 110 and 106. - Chuck Woodaby May 6, 2022, 12:53:39 Huh why would this be? - bigbop85 May 6, 2022, 9:07:53 ooo - Chicago1995 May 6, 2022, 11:53:03 Sideshow Bop* - assassin May 6, 2022, 11:59:48 Well done* - Chicago1995 May 6, 2022, 13:31:24 Solid A* - longsnapper May 6, 2022, 12:05:54 but I was told people who stormed Federal buildings were patriots* - ECEIllinois May 6, 2022, 10:48:04 They're just doing it for the instagram posts. * - haighter May 6, 2022, 11:51:29 At least these people will be reacting to something that actually happens (hopefully it does not)* - Warrin'_Illini May 6, 2022, 10:51:17 lost tourists* - ATL May 6, 2022, 10:50:43 there is no rake too small or hidden that has not had the pleasure of making your acquaintance* - suburbanmyth May 6, 2022, 10:12:23 I assume because we have an administration that cares about security? * - ijustkrushalot May 6, 2022, 10:12:10 The SC who’s members some feel we’re appointed illegitimately is set to take AWAY a right - TarheelIllini May 6, 2022, 10:11:25 Jesus, you didn't read this thing, did you? Are you trying to look like a clown?* - cpsteine May 6, 2022, 10:10:57 Eat shit, muppet.* - Toonces May 6, 2022, 9:59:31 If you read that article I'm not sure it purports what you want it too* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 6, 2022, 9:10:39 Oh there are for sure crazy pro lifers - bigbop85 May 6, 2022, 9:40:12 Yea…I don’t think he made it to the end. * - haighter May 6, 2022, 9:29:13 Because people are passionate about this issue, as evidenced by the - GMAW May 6, 2022, 9:10:29 Let's not forget multiple murders of doctors and clinic employees. * - larue33 May 6, 2022, 9:18:32 This is the article he linked - CanHartlebHireSnider May 6, 2022, 9:12:22 bigbop is a bad-faith hack?!? No way!! - Kajagoogoo May 6, 2022, 9:13:32 I was hoping to read an intelligent, respectful discourse regarding abortion - bbonb May 6, 2022, 8:34:12 For anyone who thinks states might show some moderation, - larue33 May 6, 2022, 8:33:40 Something about these crazy GOP laws, can the mother somehow claim self-defense and get an abortion - Warrin'_Illini May 6, 2022, 11:07:20 i hope they pass it; we need more dems in congress and this might be the way* - suburbanmyth May 6, 2022, 10:18:38 70% of board Rs - “what? No that’s not right. Not my GOP!’* - John Coctostan May 6, 2022, 10:02:02 This is a lot more complicated than we are making it, I think* - reggiedunlop May 6, 2022, 11:03:47 its a lot more complicated than the black--and-white republicans policies being set out* - memyselfandillini May 6, 2022, 13:54:14 How so?* - John Coctostan May 6, 2022, 11:18:02 come for the blatant racism, stay for the jailed miscarries!!* - shua May 6, 2022, 10:07:36 Can’t wait to hear how they’ll probably back down now that’s about to be reality or that state - John Coctostan May 6, 2022, 10:19:44 Religious fundamentalism is a mental disorder. * - doubledown May 6, 2022, 8:59:33 Huh--I recall being assured that just one state over, legislators had figured it out for everyone* - RangerDanger May 6, 2022, 8:58:59 Yikes * - MC May 6, 2022, 8:41:21 If miscarriages become criminal acts.... - bjl63 May 6, 2022, 8:40:38 I mean there’s just no way that ever happens though…right?* - OB25 May 6, 2022, 8:57:14 Yeah by the tiger wont eat ME!* - John Coctostan May 6, 2022, 10:03:11 ooo - doubledown May 6, 2022, 9:00:30 Maybe not, doesn’t mean they won’t arrest you and investigate later* - Chilango May 6, 2022, 8:59:43 And charge the same classes of people that always get ####ed* - GMAW May 6, 2022, 9:02:07 100%. The same group that will bear the brunt of all this bullshit.* - KingTalkyTiki May 6, 2022, 9:35:04 Yup. Good point* - Chilango May 6, 2022, 9:03:59 JFC* - Tortillini May 6, 2022, 8:38:12 Holy cow* - UofIL6 May 6, 2022, 8:35:26 STINCHFIELD is on the case - Sammich May 5, 2022, 13:29:32 that's something else* - Sounder May 5, 2022, 13:58:11 That’s bad, but not as bad as Marsha Blackburn. - assassin May 5, 2022, 14:02:47 Yikes. - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 13:05:26 I would have expected the cops to have thicker southern accents. * - doubledown May 6, 2022, 8:10:50 Megan McCardle stays undefeated in being teh stupidest person on the internet - ATL May 5, 2022, 12:51:52 ooo - ATL May 8, 2022, 7:59:07 The worst kind of famous is famous because you had a famous parent* - Sounder May 5, 2022, 13:29:33 The only thing worse is not being able to read names.* - Chuck Woodaby May 5, 2022, 13:56:02 IDK maybe Sounder was really into NYC area contracting of the 80s and 90s* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 5, 2022, 13:57:34 I have no idea who she is* - Sounder May 5, 2022, 13:58:50 LOL, I just assumed it was Megan McCain - Sounder May 5, 2022, 13:57:03 This keeps getting mentioned on NPR and actually has relevance: - ghost_of_clt May 5, 2022, 9:09:44 This is also relevant, because the concept of the "quickening" - Blazer May 5, 2022, 12:32:13 That’s the beauty of “deeply rooted in history and tradition.” You can just ignore any - doubledown May 5, 2022, 13:59:33 Everything I know about the quickening I learned from Highlander.* - DT May 5, 2022, 12:49:41 so we should be beheading 20 week old fetuses? THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!* - shua May 5, 2022, 12:56:07 Shark fetuses frequently consume each other in utero * - meanjeans May 5, 2022, 13:21:21 I just watched a youtube video from years ago that mentioned this - Sammich May 5, 2022, 13:28:03 they better stay away from Louisiana!* - shua May 5, 2022, 13:24:08 Nm* - meanjeans May 5, 2022, 11:10:34 that's actually interesting* - TarheelIllini May 5, 2022, 10:50:33 Refresh my memory, how many people did God kill in the Bible?* - Sounder May 5, 2022, 10:32:39 This site is good to have handy: - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 12:13:20 I'm only on chapter three. No spoilers, please.* - ghost_of_clt May 5, 2022, 10:36:27 Most of them, but the Bible isn't real. * - doubledown May 5, 2022, 10:36:19 It's real, just written by some random dudes* - WhitmansFolly May 5, 2022, 12:20:35 Whoa. Had no idea.* - CoronaTheirAss May 5, 2022, 9:39:11 Listened to Stay Tuned podcast this morning (from Tuesday) and they had a good observation - TarheelIllini May 5, 2022, 8:43:48 100 years from now will Roe v. Wade be viewed similiar to D. Scott v. Sanford?* - Savoy May 5, 2022, 6:34:37 LOL, no* - GMAW May 5, 2022, 8:36:03 No. Similar to the dissent in Plessy.* - ATL May 5, 2022, 7:25:44 Or more like The People vs. Larry Flynt?* - HamptonSki May 5, 2022, 7:20:52 nah because totalitarian leftists will have implemented some form of mass - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 7:11:05 I will defend my esteemed colleague from Iowa here - Jackie May 5, 2022, 10:44:49 Thank you, Jackie. To be clear, the post I got dragged into this with was talking - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 15:31:51 I think much of that is true - Jackie May 5, 2022, 16:35:52 Interesting points. The nuclear dread I think was aimed way more at the older - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 16:47:29 I don't get into the politics that much and I don't visit the other board - Jackie May 5, 2022, 17:01:50 The problem with the most vocal here who bemoan the lack of reasonable discourse is that they - Samricky May 6, 2022, 10:17:42 I give you credit for responding to such a ham-handed, purposely inflammatory post... - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 11:16:41 Well, I think training citizens for democracy is truly a nonpartisan issue - Jackie May 5, 2022, 11:35:43 ..and FratStud enters the chat. hooray. - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 10:24:49 Yeah! More trolls!* - Chicago1995 May 5, 2022, 8:27:27 Do you have a substantive disagreement with the post or does NPC.exe just tell you to - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 8:58:58 When you want to have a good faith conversation, let me know. Until then, Troll away.* - Chicago1995 May 5, 2022, 11:47:36 I would be over the moon if Democrats were able to do 10% of what Reps claim - RangerDanger May 5, 2022, 10:15:17 I was describing a 100 year timeframe, but good job misstating the position - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 15:36:12 Except you being an insufferable ####stick. - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 15:40:57 how so? are you saying you have liked the flirtation with totalitarianism much of the West has - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 15:48:05 In the last two years I've marched past National Guard humvees and cops in riot gear - RangerDanger May 5, 2022, 21:01:29 "Pathetic,white,middle-aged male Iowan slightly inconvenienced in his Southern hilljack state.... - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 15:58:20 I've never been banned, amigo. I try my best to avoid personal attacks directed - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 16:08:59 Stop the act, breh. It was played out when you were here before, breh. - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 16:13:27 Please stop stalking me* - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 16:23:40 Sorry, my bad. Hey, thanks for defending me yesterday. Considering you've referred to me as "Ticuck" - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 16:29:03 Apology accepted. But to be clear, the thread wasn't about your sex life, it was about your - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 16:36:30 You're no more sorry than I am, amigo - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 17:48:24 "too damn weak to stay away" - I think I misspelled "timmer" there. sorry for confusion* - skankhunt42 May 6, 2022, 7:57:04 Popped over to see what drove you over here, brah. - KingTalkyTiki May 6, 2022, 9:27:14 okay mr. NPC; at least own it, my math-challenged man* - suburbanmyth May 5, 2022, 16:11:08 He's a pureblood alpha, breh. - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 16:15:03 own what, brah?* - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 16:14:43 100%* - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 10:33:40 My ideal candidate is the one presented on those GOP scare mailers I kept receiving in Sept 2020* - RangerDanger May 5, 2022, 10:52:36 exactly! the stuff Stacey Abrams is/will be accused of, sign me up please! - shua May 5, 2022, 10:57:51 saying leftists try to rule through fear was the most LOL part of his post - jayd May 5, 2022, 10:19:07 ...but you're an NPC! - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 10:32:12 This whole board is NPCs. Would anyone with free will actually spend time here? * - doubledown May 5, 2022, 10:35:30 Now people who frequent a second board to primarily discuss all the going-ons on this board... - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 10:39:45 Nothing quite like paying for a safe space to share your sheltered thoughts - jayd May 5, 2022, 11:42:48 ^^My new favorite Floridian^^* - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 12:09:56 Literally stuff like skank posted to start this sub. * - doubledown May 5, 2022, 10:27:48 That is false statement backed by zero facts. That is the definition of troll behavior * - JacobRDaugherty May 5, 2022, 9:59:05 We should go with the Rick Scott plan. - WhitmansFolly May 5, 2022, 8:11:24 What other country has a problem with radical Christians?* - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:35:57 Northern Ireland?* - Stu May 5, 2022, 7:51:25 That's more ethnic than religion* - bigbop85 May 5, 2022, 8:35:10 link?* - assassin May 5, 2022, 12:52:44 LOL* - ATL May 5, 2022, 8:41:47 The worst example of Christian on Christian violence. Their policy not as bad as Poland’s: - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 8:11:13 Poland* - HamptonSki May 5, 2022, 7:43:54 Their policy has been full steam ahead on eliminating them: - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:45:24 Russia. * - larue33 May 5, 2022, 7:39:04 Let’s check out their abortion policy: - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:40:25 Everyone is all for population control in Iowa* - Stu May 5, 2022, 7:26:26 Iowa's population has been almost flat for 4 decades, bruh* - skankhunt42 May 5, 2022, 7:36:00 doesn't seem like enough population control* - ATL May 5, 2022, 7:54:17 But no one wants more Iowans around* - Stu May 5, 2022, 7:41:09 Thank god this Trumpalo dipshittery doesn’t last. * - doubledown May 5, 2022, 7:14:51 Tim Ryan on whether there should be any restrictions on abortions - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 22:16:39 Fox had a woman on who was a rape baby last week. Laura Ingraham had one who was a failed abortion* - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:37:23 Here is the latter: - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:44:03 Because letting a woman make a decision is a crazy, radical idea. * - larue33 May 5, 2022, 5:01:33 Pawnee city council had it right. Monitor their cycles and avoid.* - WhitmansFolly May 5, 2022, 8:09:39 they're just too hysterical, thankfully their husbands are there to help them with... - shua May 5, 2022, 7:17:39 Men often push for them to not have the responsibility* - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:41:17 We live in the dumbest timeline... - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 19:28:59 Can’t believe he and Kimmel were together on the Man Show* - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:38:22 I’m not sure I understand exactly what’s dumb about this on it’s face - meanjeans May 4, 2022, 23:09:01 Adam Carolla should not be trusted with any serious platform* - KCWildcat May 5, 2022, 6:34:44 Let alone another two-middle aged white dudes given a podium to talk 'bout what rights... - KingTalkyTiki May 5, 2022, 10:29:52 Totally, he didn't even go to college, much less has grad degrees like Liz Warren* - bigbop85 May 5, 2022, 8:24:45 Pinky swear!* - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 8:35:30 They ruined Mike Rowe too. Appearing on Tucker is truly a Dirty Job* - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:39:18 It's there some kind of Murphy's Law type rule that every famous person outlives their fame?* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 19:38:35 Dent's law: "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"* - Chuck Woodaby May 4, 2022, 19:44:15 Michael Jordan FTW* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 20:13:32 ooo - snipes824 May 4, 2022, 19:33:00 These pauly D ones aren't real, are they?* - gvibes May 4, 2022, 20:07:08 Like this shit is funny. But also legit 50% if the voting populace devours this shit - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 21:30:16 There is a 6 minute video. I challenge you to get past 2 minutes.* - Chuck Woodaby May 4, 2022, 20:08:08 Make that a 5 minute video. 2:20 is the clubhouse leader: - Chuck Woodaby May 4, 2022, 20:11:23 Can’t believe I made it through 45 second ad to watch maybe 10 seconds of it* - JeffFrank May 5, 2022, 7:48:36 2:21. Get owned, bitch* - gvibes May 4, 2022, 20:11:00 damnit.* - Chuck Woodaby May 4, 2022, 20:11:44 WHERE IS JA* - assassin May 4, 2022, 19:38:10 We'll get the downfall we deserve.* - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 19:37:52 The downfall we deserve - ATL May 5, 2022, 5:55:24 House committee in LA just voted to make all abortions homicides. - assassin May 4, 2022, 15:55:04 as i was saying....abortion is a third rail and the MAGA coalition is already cracking - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 14:35:08 How is that guy a thought leader? - complainant May 4, 2022, 17:58:14 He was the first to market with "What if Bill Simmons, but also SomethingAwful and TheChive?" - Sammich May 4, 2022, 20:05:39 In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 18:16:54 Co-host Chicago Eddie knows where his bread is buttered* - Sammich May 4, 2022, 16:53:22 I just can't wrap my head around the potential ramifications of this ruling - Sounder May 4, 2022, 15:20:41 More people support the Mississippi law than oppose it - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 15:23:05 LOL* - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 15:39:22 but we're not talking about the Mississippi law - Sounder May 4, 2022, 15:25:48 if you haven't been paying attention, he reframes everything referencing Roe - VIV May 4, 2022, 15:30:00 Ooo - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 15:49:47 If the Mississippi law were national law, 96% of all abortions would still take place* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 15:27:26 90%, you should learn when trimesters start, but this is why it won't do much politically - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 16:44:12 except dave portnoy and probably millions of others that you will ignore.... - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 17:13:31 Ultimately this won't affect Dave Portnoy or any of the millions of people of his ilk in any way. - Chuck Woodaby May 4, 2022, 17:38:36 just need the zeitgeist to move to the left so narratives can be driven.... - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 17:58:33 Maybe. - Chuck Woodaby May 4, 2022, 18:41:52 There are always exceptions - Sounder May 4, 2022, 16:49:55 100% would. - Chuck Woodaby May 4, 2022, 15:39:18 Just think about how many kids he'd have right now if abortion had been outlawed* - HamptonSki May 4, 2022, 15:07:42 That’s definitely the impetus for his view on this - snipes824 May 4, 2022, 15:21:47 Interesting, and I'm glad he's speaking up. - GMAW May 4, 2022, 14:55:45 Bro political philosophy is equally amusing and frustrating - CanHartlebHireSnider May 4, 2022, 15:32:15 lean libertarian, super into crypto, think they are smarter than they are?* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 16:57:51 I'm somewhat there - CanHartlebHireSnider May 4, 2022, 17:13:51 what abstinence only sex education gets you - VIV May 4, 2022, 13:25:17 To quote Hank Williams Jr, "If the south would have won WE would have had it made"* - Chuck Woodaby May 4, 2022, 15:02:48 It is the women's Body and we are telling her what to do with it. - JacobRDaugherty May 4, 2022, 12:19:40 curious how you feel about prostitution, drugs, trans fats, smoking, sugary drinks, etc. - Potomac May 4, 2022, 12:39:42 Prostitution should probably be legalized and regulated. - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 13:00:25 The Dutch have this one right* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 13:29:04 What are you talking about? You think I support what the Supreme Court is doing?* - JacobRDaugherty May 4, 2022, 12:43:28 Read it again. He's asking how/if you apply same hands-off philosophy to other things which could - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 12:46:28 I am not a libertarian because I am not a child so I don't understand the question - JacobRDaugherty May 4, 2022, 12:49:31 There are ways to avoid getting pregnant that are completely within the control - Samricky May 4, 2022, 12:25:45 Got it, all the responsibility of the women, none the men. I believe - JacobRDaugherty May 4, 2022, 12:42:03 For the record, I don’t actually believe this. I just want to point out the - JacobRDaugherty May 4, 2022, 12:46:46 If I know I’m gonna be out in the sun all day, I certainly put sunscreen or a hat on. The simple - Samricky May 4, 2022, 12:45:48 Got it on the woman, the man is too stupid to take responsibility * - JacobRDaugherty May 4, 2022, 13:29:13 ...or worn a FJB t-shirt and prevented the intercourse in the first place.* - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 12:45:06 Were you more mad that your girlfriend cheated on you, or that she didn’t let you watch? * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 12:47:01 still better than being married to dee snider* - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 13:29:15 The homunculous has entered the chat. * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 15:29:11 You are a child* - longsnapper May 4, 2022, 13:03:24 No, I’m just willing to punch back when I get attacked. * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 13:04:36 You attack more than you get attacked. - WhitmansFolly May 4, 2022, 13:21:31 That is simply not true, but I’m a big boy and I can take it. I am a counterpuncher. * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 13:25:55 no, you're a bully looking for justification - VIV May 4, 2022, 13:31:30 OMG, preach it!! - Kajagoogoo May 4, 2022, 13:39:48 That’s not true either. I gladly went months or longer not interacting at all with people - Samricky May 4, 2022, 13:35:55 Who walks into the room everyday screaming "Somebody hit me!" - Chicago1995 May 4, 2022, 13:27:24 Mostly just presenting a differing point of view. It is a well known fact that libs - Samricky May 4, 2022, 13:30:22 Oh yes, because Greg Gutfield and Jesse Watters are so funny - JacobRDaugherty May 4, 2022, 13:43:58 don't forget steven crowder! wait, you probably already did* - VIV May 4, 2022, 13:49:40 yep, all of those famouse conservative comedians - Sounder May 4, 2022, 13:33:09 This. You can't claim "foul" if you are a habitual shitposter. - WhitmansFolly May 4, 2022, 13:29:36 could you fill me in on the backstory, here? Thx* - skankhunt42 May 4, 2022, 13:12:00 LOL, Woki came home to a condom wrapper on the floor while living with his GF. - Samricky May 4, 2022, 13:13:20 Ouch. Was it some XXXL Magnum? Did they live together as "just friends" until the lease ran out?* - skankhunt42 May 4, 2022, 13:22:41 No idea, but I suspect that is a contributing factor in why the Ish calls him a cuck * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 13:27:53 Well, if you don't know all of the facts you shouldn't make fun of him for it. It's not his fault - skankhunt42 May 4, 2022, 13:31:53 Snowflake. * - Chicago1995 May 4, 2022, 13:08:02 "Attacked." Pull your nuts down* - longsnapper May 4, 2022, 13:06:38 You are right, it is very weak. But that is his MO * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 13:15:41 Would it surprise you that the logic underlying Roe v Wade also underlies precedent legalizing - ATL May 4, 2022, 12:29:48 too bad conservatives are anti-birth control and anti-sex education* - shua May 4, 2022, 12:27:39 Why should they? A majority of them will still be able to get an abortion if they really want one. - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 12:49:48 49% of women who get abortions are below the poverty line* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 13:30:56 I'd be interested to see what % of those would now be unable to get an abortion or travel for one. - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 13:39:12 Lol no* - Stu May 4, 2022, 12:29:49 ooo - ATL May 4, 2022, 12:30:25 That’s news to me. I’m not. * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 12:29:21 That's news to you? Abstinence-only "sex education" has been a tenet of the conservative movement - GMAW May 4, 2022, 12:36:20 The constant ‘wait what? This is what the modern gop is for now?!?’ surprise feom - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 12:49:56 Don't fall for the bulls&*t. They know what the party is doing. * - Chicago1995 May 4, 2022, 13:00:13 Maybe I don’t get a copy of the playbook that I’m supposed to adhere to blindly like most libs. * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 12:39:39 says the guy wearing the LGB shirt* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 12:43:33 Not today - Samricky May 4, 2022, 12:49:47 He only adheres to the "Trigger the Libs!" playbook. - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 12:46:49 So why give him power? * - Taz May 4, 2022, 12:55:21 you guys all gotta stop man* - assassin May 4, 2022, 12:51:20 It's just astounding. They're giving these trolls the attention they're so pathetically seeking* - IlliniRunner May 4, 2022, 13:16:29 Impossible * - haighter May 4, 2022, 13:14:46 yes, and none of them are failproof* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 12:26:25 Some are * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 12:27:03 Sone liberals are too - Stu May 4, 2022, 12:31:35 Fook wrong place* - Stu May 4, 2022, 12:33:13 Ironically, that is one of the failproof methods. * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 12:34:52 Assholes want this* - KCWildcat May 4, 2022, 12:24:05 men can have babies as well, but ultimately won't this only be true in very conservative states?* - skankhunt42 May 4, 2022, 12:22:25 Yes, it's insane* - UofIL6 May 4, 2022, 12:20:29 15 week abortion poll - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 11:08:21 You know the WSJ is Fox News -- right?* - Quiz May 4, 2022, 13:15:07 Jane Roe was 20+ weeks along when she decided to abort - bbonb May 4, 2022, 11:51:35 Jane Roe was a terrible person - Sounder May 4, 2022, 11:52:37 the vast majority of abortions are in the first 13 weeks - Sounder May 4, 2022, 11:51:15 10% of 600,000 is still 60,000 abortions after week 12 - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 12:07:49 So it’s another sham issue? - snipes824 May 4, 2022, 12:05:05 Children should not be a consequence* - KCWildcat May 4, 2022, 11:44:28 And if you learn your fetus is non viable at 20 weeks? - gvibes May 4, 2022, 11:41:47 proponents of this bill would say yes--they are concerned that this will become a massive loophole.. - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 11:50:26 abortion is awful and the decision to have it is excrutiating - Sounder May 4, 2022, 11:57:56 So I want to think that too - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 12:03:28 This Mark Lazerus thread popped in my timeline - CanHartlebHireSnider May 4, 2022, 12:05:51 Wow, and yeah when a Blackhawks beat writer is saying that…* - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 12:34:20 Raised that reference from the dead, didn't ya?? * - osklister May 4, 2022, 15:59:56 Honestly, I absolutely agree with the intent and structure of that statement - Sounder May 4, 2022, 12:08:37 most other than the religious zealots do; and even the religious zealots come to jesus.... - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 12:01:18 Me? Of course not, I would always be against legislation like that - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 11:46:21 67% of women who find out their child has Down Syndrome choose to abort - Sounder May 4, 2022, 11:54:47 Nah. - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 11:44:31 That will not satisfy their thirst for unborn blood * - Samricky May 4, 2022, 11:40:43 If we're at 50% pro-life in theory, we're probably sitting at 25% or less in actual practice* - Taz May 4, 2022, 11:10:32 I would describe myself as pretty pro choice but if they pitched a 15 week ban with exceptions for - meanjeans May 4, 2022, 11:24:32 According to the NYT article I linked above, 4% of abortions take place after 15 weeks* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 12:02:03 First trimester starts at week 13* - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 12:56:49 Sounds reasonable in the abstract, but I don’t know enough about the statistics to say for sure - DT May 4, 2022, 11:47:10 Just did a little bit of googling, and it looks like it’s about 5% of 1M procedures or so * - meanjeans May 4, 2022, 11:57:19 Considering the unreasonables want a complete ban, we're never going to get a compromise. - theBard May 4, 2022, 11:50:22 As someone that is very pro life, I too would take the week 15 ban and be done with it - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 11:44:07 I bet you'd get 80%+ support across a wide range. The problem you have is the DDs that want to stab - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 11:39:48 JFC. What the hell happened to you? - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 11:56:53 Nothing. The people that believe it is not a baby until it emerges from the mother are the flip side - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 11:59:13 The ####ing hypocrisy of you throwing out.. - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 12:11:00 ok.* - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 12:12:29 Exactly. Wouldn't expect you to own this either. - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 12:16:32 To be fair, I don't agree with either of those perspectives. - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 12:21:23 I'm not angling for any W besides pointing out your obvious hypocrisy... - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 12:53:04 Now you can add “arbiter of what constitutes reasonable right winger” to your signature. LOL + - Samricky May 5, 2022, 6:30:58 this both sides thing you're pitching seems fully divorced from reality* - assassin May 4, 2022, 12:07:06 This is why nobody can take you people seriously. * - doubledown May 4, 2022, 11:43:00 You literally posted "it's not a baby" -- was that a troll?* - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 11:44:58 No. It's NOT a baby until it's born. That doesn't necessarily mean it's not life, but the - doubledown May 4, 2022, 11:50:29 Oh, I'm sorry -- "There's no such thing as an unborn baby." - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 11:46:04 he also compared a fetus to livestock, so you know he's arguing in good faith* - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 12:05:12 That wasn't him, and LOL that you would criticize "good faith"* - Sounder May 4, 2022, 12:18:27 Where did I compare it to livestock? * - doubledown May 4, 2022, 12:06:19 thing about this is you're solving an issue that either isn't a problem at all - assassin May 4, 2022, 11:38:59 right, this is the problem* - reggiedunlop May 4, 2022, 12:31:20 I’m genuinely curious how those of you that are pro life rationalize a 15 week limit. Or any limit - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 11:48:55 Anyone else? I’m legit interested in this and open to other perspectives * - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 12:54:32 I wouldn't call myself pro-life. - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 11:53:21 So basically you believe in the world as it is under Roe and Casey? - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 11:56:36 Probably fair, but I'd rather see congress pass a law if it was going to be managed federally.* - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 12:01:02 That’s fine I’m not speaking of mechanism for now. Just beliefs for end outcome* - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 12:02:08 so again, why concede anything when it'll never, ever be enough? - assassin May 4, 2022, 11:58:35 I mean what’s driving the right, and alito and colleagues, is the full pro life stance - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 12:01:19 I think allowing the country to collectively realize that there is a huge middle ground - meanjeans May 4, 2022, 11:42:22 There is a middle ground and it is pretty much precisely that. - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 11:41:49 Rape and incest?* - ATL May 4, 2022, 11:31:46 wouldn't the initial 15 weeks be plenty of time to have the abortion in these cases?* - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 11:33:01 Fair point though incest is probably going to be a minor. So I think a 15 week limit would be fine. - ATL May 4, 2022, 11:54:26 Yea...these are the ideal time for the morning after pill...assuming those aren't outlawed as well.* - haighter May 4, 2022, 11:36:06 Pretty sure those would be. .* - ATL May 4, 2022, 11:46:39 Good news, been told you can get it next to the Ivermectin at farm supply. Horse abcess meds.* - gnpbfubbgre May 4, 2022, 11:47:42 Horse meds for covid? Hell no....horse meds for an abortion? - bigbop85 May 4, 2022, 12:01:22 I could see maybe not for minors. For which I’d certainly support an exception * - meanjeans May 4, 2022, 11:35:43 yes* - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 11:36:47 Twitter is just a cesspool right now. - GMAW May 4, 2022, 11:00:09 two words too many - IlliniSax05 May 4, 2022, 11:00:54 God bless this beautiful Blue Bubble. - KingTalkyTiki May 4, 2022, 10:28:15 Dicaro just retweeted this - illini21 May 3, 2022, 23:21:13 Like a celebratory retweet?* - Toonces May 3, 2022, 23:55:28 unhelpful. * - assassin May 3, 2022, 23:48:47 hey coctosan, here's an article telling us not to believe the polling on abortion - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 21:47:12 So just willfully misrepresenting my argument now huh? - John Coctostan May 4, 2022, 7:40:59 Setting aside the biased framing and some poor logic within the article… - OB25 May 4, 2022, 0:48:36 I got as far as the Trimesters lie. - complainant May 3, 2022, 23:47:38 Re the discussion below about what R states will do - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 18:19:50 The exhaust note of a 1993 Porsche 911 Turbo* - timmer May 3, 2022, 16:05:23 If I had one of those in college I might have needed abortion to be legal* - DT May 3, 2022, 16:13:51 Roast chicken and rice. * - haighter May 3, 2022, 16:11:29 Unexpected downside of all this. - KingTalkyTiki May 3, 2022, 15:45:05 we already got "poopy pants joe" with full italics treatment this morning* - suburbanmyth May 4, 2022, 11:09:45 I am hearing it was a Sotomayor clerk that leaked it* - Tooldresser May 3, 2022, 15:25:56 I read that speculation on Twitter last night/this morning* - TarheelIllini May 3, 2022, 15:35:09 Going to have a ton of random clerks needing security due to their names being thrown around online* - OB25 May 3, 2022, 15:41:37 I am seeing that posted 20 times below* - Stu May 3, 2022, 15:34:05 I didn't feel like scrolling through this poop pile of a thread to look * - Tooldresser May 3, 2022, 15:35:20 i don't want to look at the poop pile; i just want to be in it* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 15:35:56 You are a corn kernel* - JeffFrank May 3, 2022, 15:39:32 Yep* - Tooldresser May 3, 2022, 15:36:35 i heard the same thing from bigbop this morning* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 15:27:27 That theory was already discussed below and it probably doesn’t make much sense - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 15:27:09 are you Benny Johnson?* - ECEIllinois May 3, 2022, 15:26:42 More likely Benny stole this from Tooldresser - OrangeSox May 3, 2022, 15:40:30 leftists are particularly insufferable today* - ECEIllinois May 3, 2022, 15:09:25 Talk about the most 1 word too long sentence ever!!! * - Samricky May 3, 2022, 15:35:37 Send Hillary to the gulag, but not before forced visits to Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.* - Warrin'_Illini May 3, 2022, 15:35:17 like who?* - VIV May 3, 2022, 15:22:34 sirota for one* - ECEIllinois May 3, 2022, 15:26:02 Your best bet is not following those people* - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 15:32:10 unfortunately some people I follow keep QT that shit* - ECEIllinois May 3, 2022, 15:34:47 I follow a lot of left leaners but thankfully avoid most of Sirota* - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 15:36:04 Don’t think you need “today” for him - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 15:28:08 It's funny that I don't know who he is, but instantly knew which movie you were referring to* - Sounder May 3, 2022, 15:36:25 He was a Bernie speechwriter in 2020 - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 15:38:21 Almost as bad as last week when Musk bought twitter* - illini21 May 3, 2022, 15:10:53 Meh* - timmer May 3, 2022, 15:05:10 The media is not following the instructions - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 14:46:35 mconnell is terrified; what was a cakewalk to the midterms is now the fellowship of the rings... - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 15:20:15 Who are the Nazgul in this scenario - Stu May 3, 2022, 15:39:18 i don't know but oprah is sauron* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 16:14:56 Yeah I remain skeptical of the overall impact, but McConnell is definitely terrified - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 15:35:00 Elizabeth Warren is the ####ing best. - KingTalkyTiki May 3, 2022, 14:29:49 She is horrible* - JeffFrank May 3, 2022, 16:56:23 Agreed* - CubsWonWorldSeries May 3, 2022, 18:31:49 God, I wish she was president. - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 14:34:37 She is real bad at getting people to vote for her* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 16:36:38 Bernie dominated that lane. Katie Porter will shove her out of it* - JeffFrank May 3, 2022, 18:37:39 She had withdrawn by Illinois. - KingTalkyTiki May 3, 2022, 14:59:00 She was my vote in the Washington primary* - Sounder May 3, 2022, 14:36:06 I voted for her in MD but the race was long since over by then. - DT May 3, 2022, 16:18:07 Oh yeah, I think Biden had the best chance of beating Trump. - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 17:14:57 And mine* - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 14:47:52 Even though she dropped out between me mailing my ballot and election day* - Sounder May 3, 2022, 14:49:55 I'm old enough to remember Trump being impeached for saying "fight like hell" - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 13:56:11 You're really pathetic and exhausting.* - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 14:25:23 I think you are an asset to the board, but you argue in bad faith too often for my liking* - GMAW May 3, 2022, 14:18:19 I feel bad for some conservative voices here in terms of discourse but this ain't it chief.* - Warrin'_Illini May 3, 2022, 15:33:07 I agree. I think he's an asset but I think he gets too caught up in the "team mentality" - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 14:37:31 No disagreement there on the "team mentality" but I'm not the only one* - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 14:57:55 It’s the purposeful (?) lack of context every god damn time. * - assassin May 3, 2022, 14:38:14 Thanks, Susan* - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 14:31:43 Someone, somewhere, is probably proud of you for being such a loyal progressive - GMAW May 3, 2022, 14:47:44 Thinking bigbop is a troll & here just for trolling has nothing to do w/ being a "loyal progressive" - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 14:50:53 How so? - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 14:30:34 lol* - cpsteine May 3, 2022, 14:26:11 How so? - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 14:22:28 Sorry, not taking the bait. If you don't see the meaningful differences between the comments you're - GMAW May 3, 2022, 14:29:55 Two letters too many* - Stu May 3, 2022, 14:19:07 He's an asset to the boa?* - Illiniphil May 3, 2022, 14:27:27 Suffocating.* - complainant May 3, 2022, 14:33:21 He seems to be really wrapped up in this discussion.* - Illiniphil May 3, 2022, 14:40:38 Good lord, this should be an incredibly joyful day for you - RangerDanger May 3, 2022, 14:09:40 See the pubs twisting themselves in knots over the leak - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 14:33:27 ooo - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 14:10:32 And?* - RangerDanger May 3, 2022, 14:13:28 Seeing clips of Pocahontas’s head about to explode is entertaining. * - Samricky May 3, 2022, 14:09:15 and this sums up the goals of modern day GOP constituents* - cpsteine May 3, 2022, 14:21:43 Should have posted from the alt, muppet.* - Toonces May 3, 2022, 14:07:27 That was in front of a mob he assembled and sent off to the capital* - JeffFrank May 3, 2022, 14:03:51 I’m all for protesters taking over the Supreme Court and attempting to lynch Alito - Stu May 3, 2022, 14:03:44 Is this your genuine dialogue seeking?* - Chilango May 3, 2022, 14:00:15 Sorry, forgot people here never point out the hypocrisy of politicians* - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 14:03:09 Wake me up when she causes an insurrection - Chilango May 3, 2022, 14:18:21 yoyo was right, i was wrong. my bad. * - assassin May 3, 2022, 13:57:33 What happens in practice to abortions? - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:03:59 Why would this lead to more liberal policies in most places?* - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:15:04 Well, maybe I should have said for most of the population - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:18:20 I understand there are areas of gray, but really its more a yes or no thing at this point. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:23:29 Because those moves at the margin in no way balance the scales* - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 13:25:17 From the states that currently have it banned if Roe overturned - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:16:49 you don't think this would move the needle to the left in these states? - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:21:12 I don't think it is a gift to the D's - TarheelIllini May 3, 2022, 13:30:30 In AL, AR, ID, KY, LA, MS, MO, ND, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, WV, WY - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:26:32 so 15 states will ban it until their is national legislation; unfortunate to be sure.... - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:29:08 FL won't move left, either. Wi will try to push it through Evers. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:28:41 Florida doesn't have a pre-roe ban or trigger ban though* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:29:37 So it will, when it outlaws abortion, move right. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:30:57 I just don't see what you see. People might claim to be pro-life in theory, but - Taz May 3, 2022, 13:20:40 Ok which of the states I listed above do you think are going to remove their abortion bans?* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:27:30 I doubt AZ is a fight. PA will likely move to outlaw. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:20:29 and will be a political wipeout for them in the next session, when all will be undone - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:22:59 Given how Wisconsin's GOP lead legislature is acting, I don't think they understand self-interest. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:25:01 also helps if you can just rig your democracy any way you want* - reggiedunlop May 3, 2022, 13:27:50 Yep.* - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:29:18 Just to be clear, you think substantially all GOP lead will vote for pure ban? - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:22:32 Yes. They'll be under great pressure from the National GOP to follow through with bans I think. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:27:48 I guess I don't think the GOP is that principled - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:33:51 At one point, I'd have been more inclined to agree - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:38:03 not to be a jerk, but have you paid any attention at all to what it means to be a GOP elected today? - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:24:27 Hyperbole. - Illiniphil May 3, 2022, 13:30:36 for sure. there are some. but i mean the wind is blowing one direction - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:33:56 All the moderate Republicans are still voting for all the more extremist legislation - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 13:32:24 i think there is a difference here; roe allowed so much political theatre that will no longer - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:39:11 I’m not sure how big (or immediate) any backlash will be, though - DT May 3, 2022, 13:48:03 I think the lines for the most part have already been drawn - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:59:48 Not so much at the state level. - Illiniphil May 3, 2022, 13:38:15 20 states have passed laws following the GOP talking points about election security. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 14:29:51 again, i really don't think this is true. i don't know how you measure it - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:52:46 Do you watch the news or read the news? - Chilango May 3, 2022, 13:51:26 not really* - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:29:25 Arizona has a pretty split legislature - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:22:17 I shouldn't be surprised by anything anymore - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:19:53 best breakdown i've seen so far - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:12:41 that color scheme is terrible* - bbonb May 3, 2022, 13:50:57 seems like more of a day 1 scenario ... it may be right, but I would think - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:20:53 where? - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:22:04 I would expect the entire midwest, Arizona, NM, Texas, GA, NC for sure - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:25:20 If Illinois, Minnesota and maybe Iowa are the entire Midwest, you might be right. - larue33 May 3, 2022, 14:00:08 Texas literally passed a trigger ban last spring if Roe is overturned - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:39:04 What do you count Missouri? Or Indiana?* - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 13:29:12 Midwest ... I don't think they'll have all-out bans* - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:30:50 They already do if Roe is overturned - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:40:18 Missouri will for sure* - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 13:33:00 100%. the AG said so today! Day 1, trigger ban in effect - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:35:02 Passed in 2019. It's not as if these are from 50 years ago - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:41:56 exactly. i feel like i'm taking crazy pills here* - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:45:37 Missouri has a six week ban - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 13:50:28 i'm very confused by that part of the MO law - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:57:24 well i should have just googled it before posting. this post is correct per - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:59:17 That is fair, and I didn't realize these bans were in effect - ab75 May 3, 2022, 14:33:41 sure there was cover. but what evidence do you have in MO or elsewhere that these - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 14:44:06 Yeah I just meant currently* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 14:13:54 I just googled ... I think it's 8 weeks - ab75 May 3, 2022, 13:55:47 this bill is usurped by the trigger ban that will go in effect the day Roe is overturned. see above* - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 14:10:27 Missouri's gonna try and ban residents from getting abortions outside the state* - assassin May 3, 2022, 13:33:45 you think MO, IN, NE for example are going to revert course? - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:27:31 by the way, for all of the bellyaching about the leak, what exactly is the investigation about? - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 12:59:30 Care for a Roe v. Wade fun fact that will take, like, 3 seconds? - bbonb May 3, 2022, 12:49:50 That was her real last name. Her real first name was Rutledge. She went by "Rut."* - VIV May 3, 2022, 12:58:56 Well, I’ll be. Somebody actually looked it up* - bbonb May 3, 2022, 13:06:22 AKA Jane Roe is a pretty good documentary that came out a few years ago - Sounder May 3, 2022, 13:19:08 pretty much a money-grubbing #### who had a rough upbringing - bbonb May 3, 2022, 13:47:58 so, assuming this comes to pass, why wouldn't the dems, on the same day, - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 12:27:37 doesn't it make more sense to propose legislation that legalizes abortion nationally? - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 12:37:37 i highly doubt nationwide legalization polls at 80% - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:05:52 when asked if you are pro life or pro choice, its 47% to 49% - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 13:26:32 i actually love that you ignore facts that hurt your feelings.... - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:31:57 what entitlements that you list above poll at 59%?* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:18:55 from the pew poll linked from your forbes link - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:22:56 thank you for proving my point* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:28:12 ok i must be a moron then because i don't see what you're seeing from that link that suggest - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:30:16 that poll has it at 59%; forbes cited a *different* poll for 80%; what's hard to grasp about that? - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:33:04 yes, that's one poll showing 80% - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:39:53 another pile of great poll numbers - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:46:03 i mean you keep ignoring that even the pew poll shows 59%; i can't help you* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 13:41:07 i'm not ignoring it at all. it's obviously above 50%. i don't think it's really 80% - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 13:48:40 Weed legalization is close* - JacobRDaugherty May 3, 2022, 12:49:16 because they're unfocused morons* - ghost_of_clt May 3, 2022, 12:29:45 what. a. gift (bigbop, don't look) - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 12:27:24 i could not be happier about this development.... - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 11:56:29 and, of course, the impeachment angle i discussed below...... - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 12:17:10 i mean, the "don't say gay (which doesn't really say don't say gay" bill generated furor...... - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 12:12:37 Cmon man. We also didn’t want all those good recruits that Weber missed on either.* - Toonces May 3, 2022, 12:06:02 Lisa feels lied to - ATL May 3, 2022, 11:26:41 It mostly just goes to the sham that is the SCOTUS confirmation process - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 11:34:05 Agreed it's a joke that came about due to anti-semitism - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 11:39:22 While we’re at it, let’s go back to the State of the Union as a written report instead of a speech * - DT May 3, 2022, 11:44:32 I'm on board for that too* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 11:46:22 yeah, the ship sailed on an apolitical court entirely divorced from the executive a long time ago* - VIV May 3, 2022, 11:35:21 Tell me you’re a moron without telling me you’re a moron* - Mrap24 May 3, 2022, 11:31:48 "hi everyone, my screen name is Sammich" - IlliniSax05 May 3, 2022, 11:34:03 ooo - Sammich May 3, 2022, 11:57:29 Got him * - illiniranger May 3, 2022, 11:45:18 ooo - IlliniSax05 May 3, 2022, 11:58:12 Are she and Collins actually this dumb?* - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 11:31:44 Oh for ####'s sake. Of course they aren't. They knew this would happen - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 12:53:16 i think this is nothing more than face-saving to appear more moderate - VIV May 3, 2022, 11:33:51 Of course they knew. And lets face it, for (fertile) women in Murkowski's millieu, it won't be much - ATL May 3, 2022, 11:35:58 Who does this play to? The on-the-fence moderate is a myth, Lisa and Susan have been around - ghost_of_clt May 3, 2022, 11:35:57 why are we acting like these people are powerless? legislation can get passed that would easily.... - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 12:13:54 While I agree there is 0 chance Susan Collins will be the 50th vote to end the filibuster - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 12:17:14 and, in the end, legislation is much more robust anyway so this will end up being a good thing.... - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 12:25:29 whether this cycle or next, given its popularity, some legislation will get done - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 12:24:41 So they think so little of the public that we'd believe they were misled? - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 11:35:08 Their contempt for their voters is boundless* - IlliniRunner May 3, 2022, 12:54:22 Yeah, they are smart enough to know that swing voters are dumb. - DT May 3, 2022, 11:45:39 you didn't need 'swing' there* - assassin May 3, 2022, 11:46:32 yes. yes they do.* - VIV May 3, 2022, 11:35:39 her and Collins should probably just shut up and stick their heads back in the sand* - shua May 3, 2022, 11:31:08 What a complete dumb ####* - GMAW May 3, 2022, 11:29:13 Leopards. Face. etc. * - assassin May 3, 2022, 11:28:38 This ####ing guy … - doubledown May 3, 2022, 10:58:28 Roberts says leak is real, but doesn't represent final decision. Opening an investigation into leak - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:18:14 Interesting thread from former Supreme Court Clerk theorizing it's a clerk from the majority - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 11:43:18 This was my 4D chess theory last night - Blazer May 3, 2022, 15:46:07 given the timeline laid out here, i agree with this theory* - VIV May 3, 2022, 12:56:40 everything there makes sense. timing in particular* - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 12:12:45 That logic makes sense to me. And the note on timing is interesting as well.* - DT May 3, 2022, 11:55:02 The first tweet is why I don't think it was a liberal - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 11:50:56 Oh good, an investigation, that’ll do the trick* - Mrap24 May 3, 2022, 11:20:05 All olds leak to some extent - timmer May 3, 2022, 11:03:23 Put me down for Sotomayor Clerk Amit Jain, previously quoted by Josh Gerstein - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 10:47:08 I think it was Scooter Libby* - DT May 3, 2022, 11:23:45 Except he wasn't a Sotomayor clerk for quite some time* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 11:21:34 Per wiki he is a current clerk of Sottomayor's - ATL May 3, 2022, 11:30:12 He's a current clerk with some relationship with the outlet that got the leak. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 11:27:50 Huh, what the eff was I reading* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 11:59:47 As scotusblog notes should be asking why a nat sec reporter like Alexander Ward is on the byline - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 11:30:19 Agreed. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 11:33:19 My guess is Ward obtained the leak - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 11:36:56 Totally. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 11:39:04 I don’t see a quote from that person in the article unless I’m missing it* - OB25 May 3, 2022, 11:02:38 I had to ctrl-f; it's at the bottom - Sammich May 3, 2022, 11:07:08 ooo - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 11:13:34 Control F is your friend* - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 11:04:21 I didn’t realize it was a whole page of articles, I thought we were reading the first one* - OB25 May 3, 2022, 11:06:45 given how quickly Josh Hawley moved to shout conspiracy - assassin May 3, 2022, 10:23:55 Seems like it's most likely from Roberts own sphere. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 10:28:14 Seems like there is at least 1 justice uncomfortable with the Alito opinion - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:28:11 Or that one of those five has bailed from the initial vote, and they are trying to put pressure on* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 10:29:08 i would expect a fence-sitter to be the only one that wouldn't want it released - VIV May 3, 2022, 10:45:05 yeah, this is my perspective too* - reggiedunlop May 3, 2022, 10:48:17 scotusblog seems to think it's a fencesitter - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:50:41 what's the angle for a fence-sitter? - VIV May 3, 2022, 10:56:58 It's not about changing their mind - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 11:03:22 I’m not sure that makes sense - DT May 3, 2022, 10:34:27 I'm not sure - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:39:00 Or, knowing that Kavanaugh might be amenable to softening it, Roberts leaks. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 10:54:48 i would think that would accomplish the opposite, but that's just me* - VIV May 3, 2022, 11:01:15 Depends on Kavanaugh. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 11:26:01 Isn't that kind of the same as a I said? - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:32:42 I read it a little differently, but yeah, I think we are on the same page* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 11:58:06 That is my uneducated guess. It’s Brett* - CoronaTheirAss May 3, 2022, 10:31:18 statement - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:21:50 Gonna be pretty awkward when he finds out the leaker is Ginnie Thomas* - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 10:20:54 I think it might be Kavanaugh* - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:22:23 Agreed. Brett probably though Roe vs Wade was a drinking game* - CoronaTheirAss May 3, 2022, 10:32:45 I can’t tell if it’s kavanaugh trying to rejoin polite society - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 10:32:28 This logic doesn't compute for me, guy was called a gang rapist in front of his family - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 11:05:21 Well that's not the sourced politico reporting - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 11:21:25 What if it were an actual Justice or found to be done at the explicit request of a Justice... - haighter May 3, 2022, 10:32:20 Well whoever leaked it is obviously someone that is close to the justices - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:35:46 Sure...but I'm playing speculative games here. If so and so Clerk said... - haighter May 3, 2022, 10:38:29 Impeachment is possible. Federal judges have been impeached and removed before - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:41:57 This news should functionally ruin the utility of the Deuce for at least a few days* - Sounder May 3, 2022, 10:14:49 the media can only focus on one topic at a time - Dilbert May 3, 2022, 10:21:47 Thing I noticed on Twitter this morning - Sounder May 3, 2022, 10:09:02 some actual stats on abortion perception from a religion writer - reggiedunlop May 3, 2022, 10:05:10 huge gift to the dems ahead of the midterms* - VIV May 3, 2022, 9:52:18 narrator: it didn't make a difference* - Sounder May 3, 2022, 10:04:56 I’m skeptical of that* - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 10:02:33 I think it will help in certain governor's races - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 10:06:19 Yeah could help locally for governors and state legislators in purple states - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 10:14:57 Trump might actually help the Dems keep the Senate - Sounder May 3, 2022, 10:08:13 That was happening prior to this leak. - Illiniphil May 3, 2022, 10:30:01 I think it’s messed up to view it that way. Also don’t see how the GOP giving its shithead base - Toonces May 3, 2022, 10:01:04 why is it messed up to view it that way? - VIV May 3, 2022, 10:34:07 would have to go back to the confirmation transcripts but I wonder if you can…. - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 9:22:55 deeply troubled susan collins might sign up for it - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 9:38:25 She can’t really be that stupid, can she* - Mrap24 May 3, 2022, 9:44:19 Not as dumb as the person thinking SC confirmation hearings could lead to perjury - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 10:02:46 Are witnesses at these hearings not sworn in or something?* - ATL May 3, 2022, 10:14:36 No rake left unturned for the muppet.* - Toonces May 3, 2022, 10:39:14 It’s not stupidity. It’s lack of political consequences. * - doubledown May 3, 2022, 9:45:56 Can you elaborate for a dumb person like me?* - Mrap24 May 3, 2022, 9:48:15 Most voters pay almost no attention to politics - DT May 3, 2022, 9:52:08 She does nothing and feigns “concern” and the people who vote for her think - doubledown May 3, 2022, 9:50:35 I still question her win in 2020 - TarheelIllini May 3, 2022, 10:20:23 could god make a string of pearls so big, even Susan Collins couldn't clutch them?* - shua May 3, 2022, 9:42:34 She’s shocked, shocked! to find out there’s judicial extremism going on in here.* - DT May 3, 2022, 9:41:12 Judicial philosophy is fluid. - DT May 3, 2022, 9:26:25 if you say something is binding precedent 18 mos. ago, what changed since?* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 9:28:01 Merrick Garland's still the AG, even if it is perjury.* - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 9:30:53 Garland is the Susan Collins of AG's* - Sounder May 3, 2022, 10:10:57 He's so lacking in spine he's actually a slug.* - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 10:29:06 I guess I need to watch the handmaid‘s tale since according to libs that is what - Samricky May 3, 2022, 9:00:12 Since this is such a ludicrous slippery slope argument… - DT May 3, 2022, 9:36:29 I’m just sitting back and eating my popcorn. * - Samricky May 3, 2022, 9:46:33 blessed be the fruit, samricky* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 9:02:49 And also with you??? * - Samricky May 3, 2022, 9:13:51 "and with your spirit" you heathen* - VIV May 3, 2022, 9:16:33 "praise be" is the proper response* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 9:14:14 “May the lord open” is the response, IIRC. * - doubledown May 3, 2022, 9:16:48 shit, I only watched a few episodes* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 9:17:29 "stolen, illegitimate, extremist" - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 8:44:30 The difference is they let the justices take their seats once the vote was cast* - CoronaTheirAss May 3, 2022, 9:48:33 About 60% of the general public support Roe. Calling it extremist to overturn it isn't crazy. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 8:56:48 It's 49-47 at the moment - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 9:01:48 Same pollster-58-32 - illini222 May 3, 2022, 9:38:30 ABC News Pole last week 28% favor overturning it. Abortion on demand polls 30 points higher. - ATL May 3, 2022, 11:34:20 That’s even on the high end. Other legitimate polling has it around 25% support for overturning* - OB25 May 3, 2022, 10:19:30 there you go, thanks* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 10:00:33 Thank you. Yea, that's an important difference in opinion. * - OWWDig May 3, 2022, 9:47:31 there is no rake…….* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 9:22:00 Your poll is a different question. Support for maintaining the precedent Roe set actually over 60% - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 9:04:45 that's not a poll for abortion rights* - shua May 3, 2022, 9:04:00 That seems like a different question* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 9:03:17 yup. the fineprint says that this question was asked after asking about the legality of abortion. - OWWDig May 3, 2022, 9:20:58 Well one of the seats was stolen. Merrick Garland should be a justice* - JacobRDaugherty May 3, 2022, 8:47:29 RBG also should've retired during the Obama administration* - bjl63 May 3, 2022, 8:48:11 The refusal of Democrats to think and act tactically is no small part of the mess we are in.* - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 8:52:14 It’s definitely stolen and extremist. But it’s Democrats’ fault for playing by the rules and - doubledown May 3, 2022, 8:47:07 would that be a good thing?* - bbonb May 3, 2022, 7:54:53 If you’re an unborn baby sure - Stu May 3, 2022, 8:08:38 There’s no such thing as an unborn baby. - doubledown May 3, 2022, 8:35:53 It does have the capacity to feel pain and resist the abortion* - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 9:00:04 Resist the Abortion is the name of my new indie band* - Sounder May 3, 2022, 10:10:09 So what? - DT May 3, 2022, 9:39:26 *Albert Pujols has entered the chat* - Chuck Woodaby May 3, 2022, 10:35:52 Lol. Nice blast from the past.* - DT May 3, 2022, 10:49:55 Comparing livestock to humans... - bigbop85 May 3, 2022, 10:05:07 I guess it all depends on where you want to draw the line. - Illiniphil May 3, 2022, 10:12:30 Good grief. - DT May 3, 2022, 10:18:47 He was responding to someone who said it’s OK to kill babies because they don’t care about things* - memester May 3, 2022, 12:26:27 Sorry, but that comparison is absolute horseshit. - Illiniphil May 3, 2022, 9:55:02 I agree that eventually a fetus develops into a human with rights that pigs, say, don’t have - DT May 3, 2022, 10:04:03 Haven't heard this one before* - CubsWonWorldSeries May 3, 2022, 9:53:24 LOL. * - doubledown May 3, 2022, 9:08:20 Lol indeed - WhitmansFolly May 3, 2022, 9:16:05 If you were an unborn baby you wouldnt say that* - Stu May 3, 2022, 8:42:40 That is accurate. * - doubledown May 3, 2022, 8:45:27 Much better than a draft opinion leak* - snipes824 May 3, 2022, 8:00:08 or a draft leak. I mean, we all knew that Jacksonville was taking Travon Walker days before the draf - bbonb May 3, 2022, 8:04:26 A lot of people seem to think so* - HamptonSki May 3, 2022, 7:57:13 well, i'm confident that the country will unify around this issue.* - bbonb May 3, 2022, 8:00:28 Fist bumps*** - HamptonSki May 3, 2022, 8:02:23 I know he says it won't, but i can't possibly understand how the logic alito uses won't - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 7:26:21 this is what the civil rights lawyers are seeing* - memyselfandillini May 3, 2022, 10:24:34 He and his brethren said Roe was settled law in their confirmation hearings too. - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 8:39:04 Civil rights are statutory, mainly, I think - DT May 3, 2022, 8:00:01 tons of interpretation still goes on though* - memyselfandillini May 3, 2022, 10:25:10 Yep. Start with states that want to ban contraception. * - ATL May 3, 2022, 7:34:06 Wait, there are states that want to ban contraception?* - CWR10 May 3, 2022, 8:31:00 there are forces in states for sure. for example good ol MO - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 12:09:07 yep - ATL May 3, 2022, 9:20:10 Make obtaining it really hard, yes.* - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 8:42:00 You're correct. It will be.* - complainant May 3, 2022, 7:29:56 Can someone TTMLI5 why this leak would be a big deal? - Carl Spackler May 3, 2022, 6:35:19 Couple of thoughts - Chicago1995 May 3, 2022, 8:51:28 TTMLI3 - KCWildcat May 3, 2022, 8:35:12 My guess: Libs fear Red states will make abortion illegal for white people - Stu May 3, 2022, 6:51:42 The issue I can see is that Court decisions often go through multiple drafts and involve negotiation - DT May 3, 2022, 6:45:07 So would it actually have been voted on yet, or is this a possible scenario leaked* - KCWildcat May 3, 2022, 6:47:41 They vote right away, then the Chief assigns the opinion. - complainant May 3, 2022, 6:53:11 They have a tentative vote so they can decide who writes the majority - GMAW May 3, 2022, 6:51:25 It's a tradition. But also it potentially affects the work product. - complainant May 3, 2022, 6:43:23 Aren’t the cases they take public? So there’s outside pressure anyway?* - Carl Spackler May 3, 2022, 7:02:16 Yes. It's a pageant. - complainant May 3, 2022, 7:07:38 News channels and network news have drafts of hundreds of “____” = Ed Martin - timmer May 3, 2022, 2:09:21 That was funny but I don’t know what it has to do with this thread* - TarheelIllini May 3, 2022, 6:46:43 Most specialized formulas have been out of stock for months now thanks to one recall - RangerDanger May 3, 2022, 1:06:38 hard not to blame RBG for our current situation; hope all of the merch was worth it* - suburbanmyth May 3, 2022, 0:03:54 Without question* - gvibes May 3, 2022, 8:41:52 I absolutely blame RBG. It's her fault, and now it's her legacy.* - complainant May 3, 2022, 1:51:52 We definitely got Ginsburned* - Sounder May 3, 2022, 0:24:55 Seems Breyer is still fuming he was nudged out now too - CanHartlebHireSnider May 3, 2022, 0:08:24 Also Kennedy being forced out because of his son* - JeffFrank May 3, 2022, 1:13:48 cons are freaking out about the leak; great, great sign* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 22:34:09 not sure if this will be enough but this seems like a huge political win for dems - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 22:55:33 Great night to be a Dem fundraiser. - Chuck Woodaby May 2, 2022, 22:59:53 There’s no such thing as an unborn baby. * - doubledown May 2, 2022, 23:18:06 Fetus is defined as unborn offspring or baby* - Potomac May 3, 2022, 6:50:45 Just add them to the list with pedophiles, antifa and CRT.* - Chuck Woodaby May 2, 2022, 23:28:04 Nobody has ever said those things don’t exist. They’re just not where Republicans say they are. - doubledown May 2, 2022, 23:38:55 First day reading the internet?* - Chuck Woodaby May 2, 2022, 23:47:20 Link? * - doubledown May 2, 2022, 23:49:29 because it’s better for some idiots in DC - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 23:04:00 Compelling. You should work for Planned Parenthood.* - Chuck Woodaby May 2, 2022, 23:07:41 I have a job making witty rejoinders! - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 23:10:02 Just trying to grasp at some pearls. It’ll probably be enough.* - Toonces May 2, 2022, 22:44:57 there is always the non-zero chance Justice Beers got cold feet - assassin May 2, 2022, 22:36:27 possibly; assuming we have Roberts, beers would be the one to crack - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 22:40:19 Yeah I read something recently (in the last week) that he desperately wants back into high society - CanHartlebHireSnider May 2, 2022, 22:59:26 I cannot believe the leak takes I am reading* - snipes824 May 2, 2022, 22:31:02 The Supreme Court should have a right to privacy, I guess.* - DT May 3, 2022, 6:35:11 They’re literally America’s stupidest people. * - doubledown May 2, 2022, 22:46:36 Do they appear anywhere near the internet?* - complainant May 2, 2022, 22:37:14 ooo - assassin May 2, 2022, 22:42:21 Lulz. I’ve dined with her on numerous occasions. - ATL May 3, 2022, 6:30:56 she is possibly the dumbest lawyer I’ve met in person* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 23:00:21 It will never top the opponent in my one appeal. It will never get worse than that* - gvibes May 2, 2022, 23:28:37 and I’m excluding lawyers on guam* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 23:36:29 But not even just the batshit crazy ones - snipes824 May 2, 2022, 22:52:33 Precedent doesn't matter, tho. Right?* - complainant May 2, 2022, 23:13:39 Re: ooo - biclops May 2, 2022, 22:51:49 My comment below stands* - assassin May 2, 2022, 22:54:36 So maybe not so unprecedented? - ATL May 2, 2022, 22:07:43 I expect the Dems to respond in some fashion any moment now.....* - Warrin'_Illini May 2, 2022, 22:01:27 just like they did when the GOP cornholed Merrick Garland? - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 22:26:25 WTF were they supposed to do? I can’t wait for your answer* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 22:34:49 I know — It was just maddening is all. - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 23:05:52 Seat him when the Court went back in session in 2016* - JacobRDaugherty May 2, 2022, 22:39:02 Or hold a vote right now.* - complainant May 2, 2022, 22:40:12 I’d rather, especially considering this isn’t the actual ruling, for once in their lives - assassin May 2, 2022, 22:02:58 Fair enough; but unfortunately my expectations for any plan couldn't be lower.* - Warrin'_Illini May 2, 2022, 22:14:16 Same* - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 22:26:54 I’ve pretty much written off the dems as completely feckless* - Sounder May 2, 2022, 22:23:44 Of course not. I think Pelosi and Schumer just issued a statement anyway. * - assassin May 2, 2022, 22:16:09 I’m waiting for Susan Collins pearl clutching* - Sounder May 2, 2022, 22:18:45 Now will the fundies reward the GOP for this win on the one issue they care about, - doubledown May 2, 2022, 21:30:43 There’s always anti-gay, trans, and minority actions. - IlliniRunner May 2, 2022, 21:33:17 if roe is overturned abortion will automatically be illegal in 18 states - biclops May 2, 2022, 21:02:29 Wow. Best thing that could have happened for the DNC.* - Chuck Woodaby May 2, 2022, 20:59:44 lol like they’ll take advantage.* - ATL May 2, 2022, 21:00:43 JP Mandel is so screwed* - Sounder May 2, 2022, 21:19:49 Narrator voice* - Sounder May 2, 2022, 21:11:05 contraceptives and gay-marriage next? * - MC May 2, 2022, 20:54:55 Most likely affirmative action.* - nash May 2, 2022, 21:23:04 The decisions says no, and doesn't eliminate the right to privacy. - gvibes May 2, 2022, 21:09:24 That'd be great. A massive blue wave in the making.* - complainant May 2, 2022, 20:57:14 these freaks will need something else to do. * - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:56:40 theoretically, could there be a constitutional basis to banning abortion nationwide?* - reggiedunlop May 2, 2022, 20:49:05 welp, here is a WaPo article on a potential nationwide ban - reggiedunlop May 2, 2022, 21:26:56 They're making it up as they go along. Why not? - complainant May 2, 2022, 20:54:25 the draft reportedly not suggesting a ban; relegating decision to states - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 20:54:23 right, I just meant if it's not protected, it could possibly be banned - reggiedunlop May 2, 2022, 20:56:25 if it’s not protected, I think congress can ban most anything but that’s political suicide* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 21:00:15 Probably need some superficial interstate commerce hook, but yeah* - gvibes May 2, 2022, 20:53:17 But conservatives are skeptical of commerce clause overreaching - DT May 2, 2022, 21:10:10 They don’t believe it* - IlliniRunner May 2, 2022, 21:16:01 Their voters 100% do. - DT May 2, 2022, 21:19:46 That has been clearly fake since at least Scalia's concurrence in Raich v Gonzales. - gvibes May 2, 2022, 21:13:58 Reminder that in 2016 the Green Party took enough votes to have comfortably elected Hilldawg. - ATL May 2, 2022, 20:44:55 Eff Nader in 2000 too* - JeffFrank May 2, 2022, 21:21:18 If Hillary had won among white women, she would have won the election - meanjeans May 2, 2022, 21:16:39 That white women, the majority of them support abortion rights, are terrible - ATL May 2, 2022, 21:30:16 Or the Dems could have not nominated the worst presidential candidate in the nation’s history * - IlliniRunner May 2, 2022, 21:03:15 She was highly qualified* - JeffFrank May 2, 2022, 21:25:59 When conservatives are willing to elect a guy like Trump to get what they want but liberals won’t - ATL May 2, 2022, 21:09:45 I guess my post should have started with “And” instead of “or”* - IlliniRunner May 2, 2022, 21:12:01 C‘mon, that’s such an idiotic statement* - Sounder May 2, 2022, 21:07:39 She ran an absolutely terrible campaign. The blame should absolutely lie with her - Toonces May 2, 2022, 21:10:57 tons of blame to go around. RBG should have retired; Hillary sucked; Dem voters were - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 22:20:40 I actually think it’s both. She was terrible. - IlliniRunner May 2, 2022, 21:13:34 If you lose to Donald Trump in that election, you’re the worst candidate in history - IlliniRunner May 2, 2022, 21:09:55 Nothing else happened completely outside of her control, right? - Sounder May 2, 2022, 21:13:03 Since when do candidates get to control all factors? It’s a sales job and she lost. - Toonces May 2, 2022, 21:21:12 Comey f***ed her* - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 22:22:20 A not terrible candidate could have handled it. But she didn’t - IlliniRunner May 2, 2022, 21:14:52 I don’t think those people were ever voting for her. She should have run a better campaign and - Toonces May 2, 2022, 20:51:21 yep and yep; Hillary’s trashing women for bill came back to haunt her * - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 20:55:15 She was an imperfect candidate but better than throwing away your vote - ATL May 2, 2022, 20:57:15 Jill Stein and Nader should answer for their stupidity * - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 22:23:25 Dotz - Sounder May 2, 2022, 22:30:47 hard to find a guy more arrogant than Maher but Naders a real gem* - memyselfandillini May 2, 2022, 23:08:31 Agree on RBG. Disagree on the vote. Both because plenty on the left decided Trump had no chance s - ATL May 2, 2022, 20:55:06 It's almost like Putin wanted to control American elections. - complainant May 2, 2022, 20:48:40 Just incredible the ugly residual impact from Trump 2016. Devastating* - UofIL6 May 2, 2022, 20:45:58 wow. Canada looks better and better every day* - eta May 2, 2022, 20:41:06 lol.* - Ari Gold May 2, 2022, 21:02:45 And the contrarians saying that Dems were overreacting were wrong for the 1000th time* - reggiedunlop May 2, 2022, 20:32:41 being eyeore almost always means you’ll be right eventually…. - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 20:35:55 I hope that is not true* - Tooldresser May 2, 2022, 20:32:20 My guess is abortions were next to impossible to get in your typical red state shithole anyway.* - Toonces May 2, 2022, 20:24:12 In clinics yeah, but pills via mail still an option. * - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:25:39 Hopefully there will be ways around that.* - Toonces May 2, 2022, 20:26:31 Every institution in this country is crumbling. Every single one. This leak is absolutely huge and - John Coctostan May 2, 2022, 20:17:58 And that’s as the GOP wants it* - IlliniRunner May 2, 2022, 21:05:04 The leak is pretty much unprecedented. - Chicago1995 May 2, 2022, 20:36:53 kinda hard to muster even a whiff of a shit about the leak part of all of this. * - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:41:52 I don’t disagree, but the leak, long term, is a big problem for the credibility of the cour - Chicago1995 May 2, 2022, 21:34:42 Can you elaborate on the credibility argument? I don’t see the impact there. - DT May 3, 2022, 6:19:01 Agree with this and what I was getting at above* - John Coctostan May 3, 2022, 6:14:24 The decision itself already takes care of the court credibility issue* - Sounder May 2, 2022, 21:38:46 get used to it. “worse than Jan 6” per certain corners of Twitter * - biclops May 2, 2022, 20:45:28 hopefully those people die in their sleep tonight. * - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:48:02 yep but none of these religious zealots care* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 20:29:09 What a dumb country* - illini21 May 2, 2022, 20:10:05 It’s only gettin worse baby. * - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:12:14 wow, have draft opinions ever been leaked to the press before?* - gvibes May 2, 2022, 20:08:08 of course not. just like the filibuster.* - Ari Gold May 2, 2022, 20:12:44 what do you expect when you make a mockery of the process* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 20:14:10 i was thinking the same thing; love that an extremely radical supreme court has... - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 20:12:14 I see my thought was a not new one. Politico thinks this is the first - gvibes May 2, 2022, 20:13:48 I find that particularly disgusting. - SurfTheBoneyard May 2, 2022, 21:29:33 How many women will opt against getting pregnant because they have a high probability for complicati - complainant May 2, 2022, 20:05:47 lol Susan Collins. * - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:03:08 lol pitchbot. - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:09:25 ####ing #### #### stick ####ing #### #### rod ####ing #### ####* - bbonb May 2, 2022, 20:01:53 Expand the court.* - Toonces May 2, 2022, 20:00:22 Run in November on the issue of codifying it* - JeffFrank May 2, 2022, 20:01:04 And ending the filibuster?* - complainant May 2, 2022, 20:03:32 sure; court packing polls the worst* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 20:55:51 End lifetime terms for the supreme court* - GrandmotherPearlsJam May 2, 2022, 19:59:04 This is a lifeline to save the Democratic majority in November* - JeffFrank May 2, 2022, 20:01:39 won’t move the needle. * - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:05:19 probably not but a nice wildcard to pick up in a hand where we had nothing* - suburbanmyth May 2, 2022, 20:11:10 Clyburn still gonna fly to Texas and campaign for Cuellar? * - assassin May 2, 2022, 20:16:30   Searching