Further evidence that we have the best healthcare in the world Archived Message Posted by ATL on May 9, 2022, 7:32:53 Message Thread: Further evidence that we have the best healthcare in the world - ATL May 9, 2022, 7:32:53 Looking at the World Bank data for maternal mortality, Wikipedia for obesity rates, and this healthc - illiniranger May 9, 2022, 13:36:04 Good stuff. Shocked that nobody wanted to get into a discussion with actual data instead - John Coctostan May 10, 2022, 15:56:32 Here's a study you might find interesting. Obesity, diabetes (linked to obesity) were by far the - gnpbfubbgre May 9, 2022, 12:44:58 Seems wrong based on causes and the fact that it seems very socioeconomically biased - Quiz May 9, 2022, 10:33:52 Great. First we killed unborn babbies, now we’re killing moms* - bbonb May 9, 2022, 10:07:35 I'm waiting for insurance company to approve additional PT for my shoulder - IlliniSax05 May 9, 2022, 9:50:42 honest question - why is the data only through 2015? - Dilbert May 9, 2022, 9:08:09 It was published in 2016 - CanHartlebHireSnider May 9, 2022, 9:15:44 Not sure about the data set. But the author of the tweet where I found the chart has thoughts - ATL May 9, 2022, 9:13:26 interesting - thanks!* - Dilbert May 9, 2022, 9:15:37 USA! USA! USA! *clicks on post* - timmer May 9, 2022, 8:35:02 I have a wild hypothesis as to a contributor. - gnpbfubbgre May 9, 2022, 8:11:43 The healthcare system doesn't start with the birth (or the fertilization)* - ATL May 9, 2022, 8:28:26 The healthcare system doesn’t decide what people eat* - Buttcrack May 9, 2022, 8:32:27 typical Buttcrack* - TarheelIllini May 9, 2022, 8:54:04 people being fat because of high incomes and low costs of living is definitely the fault of - bigbop85 May 9, 2022, 8:37:06 Is this one of your earnest attempts at dialogue?* - Chilango May 9, 2022, 12:08:43 I see you flailing * - ATL May 9, 2022, 8:42:02 I've been to Germany and England and see what those people eat - ATL May 9, 2022, 8:35:57 And we're still 20% and 15% ahead of them in obesity, respectively. * - haighter May 9, 2022, 9:26:48 Our built environment is obesity inducing. The difference isn't what we eat - ATL May 9, 2022, 9:30:05 Curious how you just casually say "15-20% increase in obesity doesn't account for 3x increase in MM" - memester May 9, 2022, 10:47:01 Spoiler, he didn’t research* - bigbop85 May 9, 2022, 22:44:29 on the food thing i would disagree - illiniranger May 9, 2022, 9:45:50 Yup...completely 100% anecdotal...but the amount this board (and all previous iterations)... - haighter May 9, 2022, 9:48:21 i don't want to come off as saying ATL doesn't have a point. i think he does. - illiniranger May 9, 2022, 9:52:51 And I don't think you're wrong. But my observation has always been that Euros tend to - ATL May 9, 2022, 9:58:19 i think the walking thing matters for sure - illiniranger May 9, 2022, 10:02:20 He may but I'm like a broken record here; the primary driver is caloric intake. - gnpbfubbgre May 9, 2022, 9:57:24 I wonder if just *how* obese many people are here is playing a factor, too - IlliniOllie May 9, 2022, 12:57:44 I have a wild hypothesis as to how that could be changed. - gnpbfubbgre May 9, 2022, 9:38:15 Not sure it's cheaper* - Chilango May 9, 2022, 12:09:20 Our family's food bills went down quite a bit when we started eating healthier and avoiding - gnpbfubbgre May 9, 2022, 12:21:13   Searching