You really don't see that being a factor? Archived Message Posted by Sounder on May 20, 2022, 14:01:45, in reply to "LOL at the recruiting angle*" It just seems to me that if you grow up in Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, etc., you grow up with your life's goal to play for the state flagship university, and I just don't see that with Illinois. Am I wrong? Previous Message Previous Message but Illinois seems particularly problematic in that regard. I think it's honestly a big reason who Illinois has never been good at recruiting in state kids, especially ones from Chicagoland. I'm a staunch defender of the institution of government but Illinois is hard to defend. Previous Message If you don’t like living in Illinois then f#%@$!@ leave. Quit bitching about it and move. Drives me nuts listening to people constantly pissing and moaning about how bad the state is, just go already. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Major update: Illinois says “ hello, me not dead - Chilango May 20, 2022, 9:09:22 Generally, red states undercounted & blue states overcounted? - EffinIllini May 20, 2022, 12:42:12 I have little doubt that this recent census was a castastrophe - Sounder May 20, 2022, 14:00:22 own goal by the right to forment distrust in the government during that time* - ECEIllinois May 20, 2022, 13:33:42 One of the longterm implications of the pandemic - Sounder May 20, 2022, 14:03:17 I think we can apply Hanlon's Razor to this one - ATL May 20, 2022, 12:45:12 My stance has been and will always be - Buttcrack May 20, 2022, 12:13:08 Your stance is if you don't like high taxes, poor services, or crime to just leave? - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 13:17:41 We plan on it, just waiting to see where our youngest goes to college. - PapaDels May 20, 2022, 13:08:46 Peace* - Buttcrack May 20, 2022, 13:22:59 I feel like everyone complains about where they live - Sounder May 20, 2022, 12:34:54 LOL at the recruiting angle* - Carl Spackler May 20, 2022, 12:47:49 You really don't see that being a factor? - Sounder May 20, 2022, 14:01:45 Those states have something in common football-wise. Decades of consistent success* - bjl63 May 20, 2022, 14:19:28 “Roderick Pierce, why did you choose Wisconsin?” - snipes824 May 20, 2022, 13:10:13 I wasn't referring to the politicians, I was referring to a concept of state pride* - Sounder May 20, 2022, 14:02:21 My top two choices are Illinois, and any other state school with a more pro business climate. * - illiniranger May 20, 2022, 13:57:13 While I don't think that the folks below are arguing in good faith - IlliniRunner May 20, 2022, 12:29:12 State vs. country argument is much different in my opinion - Buttcrack May 20, 2022, 13:06:07 Wait I can't change my city? Huh? - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 13:23:46 Literally no clue what you are talking about - Buttcrack May 20, 2022, 13:34:51 I think a lot of people (myself included) have some version of... - haighter May 20, 2022, 13:32:37 Thing is, I think Bop is doing something to change his general surroundings... - haighter May 20, 2022, 13:09:52 My comment had nothing to do with bigbop for the record* - Buttcrack May 20, 2022, 13:24:20 Did you see the sign at the Wallingford gas station? - Sounder May 20, 2022, 12:35:55 No, but I love that sign* - IlliniRunner May 20, 2022, 12:37:58 Exactly. I'm not one for "love it or leave it" as an argument, per se - Taz May 20, 2022, 12:23:14 You should move to Seattle, you're not allowed to complain about the weather here - Sounder May 20, 2022, 12:37:51 Because the weather here is actually pretty great, all things considered* - IlliniRunner May 20, 2022, 12:38:51 About as believable as last minute votes coming in 100% Biden* - CubsWonWorldSeries May 20, 2022, 11:55:50 ***marks post as helpful*** - JFG May 20, 2022, 13:30:48 Jesus* - uofi1998 May 20, 2022, 13:09:56 holy shit* - biclops May 20, 2022, 12:38:22 So butthurt* - illini21 May 20, 2022, 12:31:46 Weird. I pegged you as a conservative, not a complete ####ing idiot* - GMAW May 20, 2022, 12:04:53 There have been unpromising signs on that point lately* - IlliniRunner May 20, 2022, 12:29:53 oOo - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 12:14:21 Sadly, that Venn diagram is narrowing* - Sounder May 20, 2022, 12:07:41 Didn't have you pegged for a mypillow type, maybe I haven't been paying attention* - Chilango May 20, 2022, 12:00:31 You'd almost think that Trump actively encouraged his people to not vote by mail* - Sounder May 20, 2022, 11:58:59 link?* - ATL May 20, 2022, 11:58:32 Linky - Chilango May 20, 2022, 12:03:00 Lie, Damned Lies and Statistics* - Savoy May 20, 2022, 10:49:28 The US grew by 9.5% from 2010 to 2020, Illinois grew by 2% - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 10:25:57 classic GOP: let's redefine "mass shooting" because the politics of the conventional meaning suck... - suburbanmyth May 20, 2022, 10:40:49 Like the opponents of legal medical euthanasia discounting gun death numbers b/c many are suicides* - ATL May 20, 2022, 12:55:33 Moving those goalposts and a rando haymaker - Chilango May 20, 2022, 10:40:20 "By state" lol - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 10:44:13 payton gendron is a dem voter now? i get that the facts are crushing your feelings but.... - suburbanmyth May 20, 2022, 11:20:36 Why does Republican leadership lead to opioid and meth overdoses? - Chilango May 20, 2022, 11:17:28 See this is your problem, not recognizing when your party is at fault - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 13:28:54 That's pretty much in line with other Midwest states like OH and MI. - ihpsdm May 20, 2022, 10:39:27 Yet come next year, red tsunami or not... - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 10:36:13 And we'll probably have 800 homicides in Chicago and the 7th highest unemployment rate - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 10:39:09 oOo - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 10:46:40 Look it's easy when you have no one to leave this city and state to after you die - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 11:06:26 So you, a professed Christian, don't think there's any reason to care about the state of our - Taz May 20, 2022, 12:31:23 No, I just think you are less devoted and committed to the future - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 13:16:30 Please direct me to the post where I said I don't care about this shooting or any violence? - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 13:23:26 You responded to my 800 murders and mass shooting post with a meme* - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 13:24:45 Shockingly you had the wrong takeaway yet again.* - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 13:26:32 Ridiculous * - Jackie May 20, 2022, 11:35:56 "leave this city" - oh, I have an idea why Rs don't even run candidates in the places you cite* - RangerDanger May 20, 2022, 11:17:49 since ####ing when?* - VIV May 20, 2022, 11:07:21 Oh, this is his new thing. If you're childless, your existence must be miserable... - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 11:13:05 no if you don't have kids, you're opinions don't matter; it's the only way he can win arguments* - suburbanmyth May 20, 2022, 11:27:47 I mean yeah, that too....but he's explicitly said the other stuff - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 11:31:13 yes, he has; usually people grow out of that stuff but when you haven't had to earn much on.... - suburbanmyth May 20, 2022, 11:34:31 I see this so much with my friends who have kids - Sounder May 20, 2022, 12:07:13 Agreed - bigbop85 May 20, 2022, 13:15:09 POTD* - Chilango May 20, 2022, 11:57:48 The party of environmental deregulation suddenly wants to leave the world a better place * - VIV May 20, 2022, 11:24:55 I guessing he just means financially. - KingTalkyTiki May 20, 2022, 11:53:39 Trust fund kids gonna trust fund* - Chilango May 20, 2022, 12:26:47 That is amazing* - Tooldresser May 20, 2022, 10:16:35 I’m very interested in how they a) ####ed up that bad and b) ‘corrected it’ - John Coctostan May 20, 2022, 10:15:33 it was obvious it wasn't going to be right in real time* - assassin May 20, 2022, 10:31:05 At least it seems like mere incompetence and not some grand conspiracy. * - doubledown May 20, 2022, 10:04:12 it's like if you want something to be really true, encourage the bopper to take the opposite side... - suburbanmyth May 20, 2022, 10:02:02 Universe....not letting old white men win since the dawn of time. - WhitmansFolly May 20, 2022, 10:12:37 That is good news * - illiniranger May 20, 2022, 9:16:03   Searching