Yes by your definition he isn't a DJ level surprise but he's a surprise nonetheless* Archived Message Posted by bigbop85 on June 1, 2022, 9:11:52, in reply to "That doesn't mean he's a "surprise" departure from the PGA like DJ is" * Message Thread: | This response ↓ Saudi golf league commits came out… - Dikta June 1, 2022, 7:52:48 Rory: "21 wins. One more than 'someone else' (GN)." Brilliant* - Phytynlini June 12, 2022, 16:41:07 Loved it - jdl June 12, 2022, 16:44:23 Love me some Finau. What a balls putt. Shame it wasn’t enough. * - uofi1998 June 12, 2022, 16:41:01 Pga tour couldn't ask for a better Sunday on a weekend like this* - OrangeSox June 12, 2022, 16:36:31 Certainly couldn’t ask for a better final group. Super popular players… - uofi1998 June 12, 2022, 16:41:38 Cool scene, great Sunday, eff LIV golf* - bigbop85 June 12, 2022, 16:34:29 Too bad Rory made $2.5 million less for his efforts this weekend!* - Dilbert June 12, 2022, 17:19:18 59 watch for Rose - jdl June 12, 2022, 14:28:46 Everybody going low. Fins is tracking towards a 63-65 and is losing ground. Cray cray * - uofi1998 June 12, 2022, 15:38:06 Lots of oil being leaked now - jdl June 12, 2022, 16:03:03 Pun intended?* - HamptonSki June 12, 2022, 16:03:29 LOL no * - jdl June 12, 2022, 16:06:03 And then he does that out of a hot lie. Just won it on 17. No jinx * - uofi1998 June 12, 2022, 16:15:17 JT with the assist * - jdl June 12, 2022, 16:20:54 On a Sunday? That's a terrible course* - HamptonSki June 12, 2022, 15:26:29 Bogey on 18 for 60 * - jdl June 12, 2022, 15:14:27 Yes, Rory is on the watch * - jdl June 12, 2022, 14:56:14 Yes, you too can shoot no better than 75 and take home $120K - timmer June 12, 2022, 13:31:49 Rory, JT and Finau in tomorrow's final group - jdl June 11, 2022, 16:40:37 Nick getting "feature group" coverage on ESPN+ - jdl June 12, 2022, 13:18:59 Lying sacks of crap - jdl June 12, 2022, 13:24:55 Hardy 65 today, T20 * - jdl June 11, 2022, 15:12:23 Amazing two tweets here - John Coctostan June 9, 2022, 15:29:14 Wait third tweet makes it even better! - John Coctostan June 9, 2022, 15:30:26 Greg just can't stop stepping on his dick (because it's enormous)* - Phytynlini June 9, 2022, 16:09:27 I didn’t think 3LG could be a bigger villain* - Dikta June 9, 2022, 15:43:47 Video - jdl June 9, 2022, 15:34:39 Norman clearly knew what was going on there* - John Coctostan June 9, 2022, 15:59:48 ...and, in 45 seconds, we've seen why taking Saudi money is a display of ones ethics. - uofi1998 June 9, 2022, 15:39:33 is it because alan is gay or is it just because he's jewish..... - suburbanmyth June 11, 2022, 15:27:54 Pretty good take on the situation here - jdl June 9, 2022, 13:36:53 Regrettably, I think this will make golf like tennis…the 4 majors matter and nothing else… - Dikta June 9, 2022, 16:03:42 My only hope is Jay leans into the PGL stuff…teams up with that group - Dikta June 9, 2022, 16:06:20 Nice opening round for Hardy, -2 * - jdl June 9, 2022, 13:34:10 Just looked on ESPN.com to see if they had updated their interface at all. - OB25 June 9, 2022, 10:20:09 Part of my complete lack of interest in LIV is the format. - uofi1998 June 9, 2022, 10:22:03 It is stroke play - jdl June 9, 2022, 10:31:30 Gotta wonder if as their fields of players get larger whether they will add in a cut line at some - harb June 9, 2022, 11:40:35 I think the intent is not have a large field of players* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 11:56:49 Isn’t part of their “thing” that everyone who plays gets paid?* - Mrap24 June 9, 2022, 11:42:00 Plus with their shotgun start format the fields have to be small * - jdl June 9, 2022, 11:53:55 PGA Tour has suspended all current and future LIV golfers - jdl June 9, 2022, 8:43:14 LIV response - jdl June 9, 2022, 9:14:24 I sort of actually hope this thing succeeds.* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 8:56:19 Yeah, I'm kind of rooting for them at this point. - HamptonSki June 9, 2022, 9:17:34 I hope the PGL (original idea) and PGA join forces* - ab75 June 9, 2022, 8:57:46 agreed - bigbop85 June 9, 2022, 9:46:19 Live stream for 1st event - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:43:21 "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by PGA TOUR"* - gvibes June 9, 2022, 9:19:21 lol* - Sammich June 9, 2022, 9:20:48 Well the coverage is way better than CBS - jdl June 9, 2022, 8:38:39 if only they could get Romo* - bbonb June 9, 2022, 10:32:11 Really solid production considering no streaming or broadcast rights* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 9:03:54 could use a better rules analyst* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 9:52:02 Yes ... The PGA tour needs a full reset, but I hope this isn't it leading to split leagues that both - ab75 June 9, 2022, 8:57:06 I think it's going to be a rough period to go through - jdl June 9, 2022, 9:00:15 Outside the sportswashing, the only thing I really fear is the - ab75 June 9, 2022, 9:01:46 I don't buy that the Masters will ban folks. I am sure they have members who do significant - Gus Johnson June 9, 2022, 9:20:16 lol that Phil is wearing an Augusta vest - bigbop85 June 9, 2022, 8:25:22 And now wearing a different vest - jdl June 9, 2022, 10:11:43 Cocaine's a hell of a drug* - HamptonSki June 9, 2022, 10:31:17 Yeah, he will. Masters DGAF* - HamptonSki June 9, 2022, 9:16:36 Do you know who the Augusta membership is? - bigbop85 June 9, 2022, 9:49:12 Mickelson looks like a bum* - KCWildcat June 9, 2022, 8:23:52 New link - jdl June 9, 2022, 8:04:57 LOL - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:59:00 Or not... - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 7:58:46 They were streaming the ESPN+ feed of the RBC - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:59:44 Ah* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 8:00:36 for some reason I had it in my head that this was all being played in Saudi Arabia... - shua June 9, 2022, 7:52:09 Yeah, only 1 event in SA * - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:58:34 Sand traps there are epic.* - DT June 9, 2022, 8:00:38 Imagine trying to rake those. - osklister June 9, 2022, 8:04:29 That would be an amusing hole—like the island green except instead of water, it’s all sand* - DT June 9, 2022, 8:05:53 again with the sand?! Make it stop* - bbonb June 9, 2022, 8:07:39 You've got mail! - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:42:04 000 - Mrap24 June 8, 2022, 12:27:02 LOL. Good source but could be wrong - bbonb June 8, 2022, 12:55:33 I'm calling BS on the Masters banning them* - HamptonSki June 8, 2022, 12:43:59 That is the current belief - ab75 June 8, 2022, 13:39:49 Why? * - jdl June 8, 2022, 12:56:43 Because the Masters plays by their own rules 100% of the time. - HamptonSki June 8, 2022, 13:39:55 Weird, those are exactly the reasons I think they would ban them * - jdl June 8, 2022, 13:59:11 In fact I think that is the reason they're the only one of the 4 with the balls to do it - ab75 June 8, 2022, 13:56:43 he doesn’t think the Masters will ban them* - bbonb June 8, 2022, 12:57:47 USGA didn't implement it, but rules can change* - KCWildcat June 8, 2022, 13:02:49 My guess is bc the event is next week. Things can change in a year* - Mrap24 June 8, 2022, 13:35:40 [Bubba Watson]* - HamptonSki June 8, 2022, 12:08:32 I'm seeing an asshole trend* - KCWildcat June 8, 2022, 12:16:26 Absolutely. Billy Horschel has to be next* - CWR10 June 8, 2022, 12:17:46 $100M for Bryson - snipes824 June 8, 2022, 12:03:37 Big chunk of change for Peabo. - osklister June 8, 2022, 12:49:26 It's a whole new world* - shua June 8, 2022, 13:01:33 Yeah, that’s crazy money - DT June 8, 2022, 12:09:51 Hoping it gets the PGA tour to make some changes - jdl June 8, 2022, 12:09:07 I hate that it's Saudi money, but the PGA is a stale, boring model - ab75 June 8, 2022, 12:08:32 Good background read - jdl June 8, 2022, 9:04:31 Makes Ryder Cup selections interesting… - SurfTheBoneyard June 8, 2022, 8:06:15 They are choosing the exhibition event that pays them a lot more * - jdl June 8, 2022, 8:17:20 Anyone resigning their PGA membership isn’t eligible* - GMAW June 8, 2022, 8:07:39 More importantly, what team are you going to root for? - timmer June 8, 2022, 7:59:00 welcome to yesterday, holly... - shua June 8, 2022, 8:05:20 [Patrick Reed and DeChambeau] - KCWildcat June 8, 2022, 7:42:49 Totally on brand.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 8, 2022, 7:52:03 Do they have a media deal for this thing yet? - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 17:54:17 supplying them with tens of billions of dollars weapons = fine; playing at some golf events - gvibes June 7, 2022, 19:38:52 $$$$$$; the equivalent of everyone piling on the NBA's relationship with china as if that is our.... - suburbanmyth June 8, 2022, 12:53:13 It’s the very definition of a successful corporate propaganda campaign* - GMAW June 8, 2022, 8:13:50 Completely agree. So much Twitter outrage. - nash June 7, 2022, 19:45:09 No, first event is streaming on Youtube and Facebook * - jdl June 7, 2022, 18:00:28 Bryson rumors rumbling * - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:10:23 Definitely meathead enough.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 17:41:59 Him, Rickie and Brooks would fit in well * - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:44:20 How much coke has Phil been doing? - snipes824 June 7, 2022, 16:12:41 Looks like a botched face lift.* - Toonces June 7, 2022, 21:28:22 Whoa... those do look like coke eyes.* - uofi1998 June 7, 2022, 17:48:40 *ahem* key bump eyes* - ghost_of_clt June 7, 2022, 19:13:22 ooo - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:19:16 ooo - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:16:12 Lol* - snipes824 June 7, 2022, 17:39:28 he looks exactly what I'd expect a guy that has massive gambling losses and is making a deal with - John Coctostan June 7, 2022, 17:15:16 Yeah big uncut gems vibes* - snipes824 June 7, 2022, 17:44:28 Is that the rumor?* - Sounder June 7, 2022, 17:16:26 Among other things - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:17:23 yikes* - Sounder June 7, 2022, 17:39:37 His degenerate gambling tendencies are well documented on the Tour* - ilinni11 June 8, 2022, 12:11:04 Don Junior levels* - Sounder June 7, 2022, 16:58:27 USGA not banning any players from this year's Open - jdl June 7, 2022, 12:05:54 Yes, the interesting thing will be OWGR points over time - ab75 June 7, 2022, 13:30:59 They'd need to get rid of the 54 hole no cut format - jdl June 7, 2022, 14:25:02 Looks like two events are at Trump courses. - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 8:49:17 ooo - bigbop85 June 7, 2022, 8:51:30 When the headline is all you read… - uofi1998 June 7, 2022, 9:11:55 Must Protect!* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 9:04:25 I'm curious how this will end up affecting sponsorships. - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 7, 2022, 8:35:12 One would think they accounted for that in their contract… - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 8:48:17 Fireballs GC! - jdl June 7, 2022, 7:40:47 It all makes sense now - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:51:03 Kind of want - jdl June 7, 2022, 15:23:58 I expect this to have all the success of the XFL, USFL, etc* - IlliniRunner June 7, 2022, 12:10:48 Except the Saudis have an almost bottomless pot of money to throw at it. - Herman Blume June 7, 2022, 13:35:26 What's their goal?* - KCWildcat June 7, 2022, 13:42:14 Sportswashing * - jdl June 7, 2022, 14:27:41 Niblicks GC, formerly known as Mashies GC. * - osklister June 7, 2022, 8:10:29 I didn't realize this was a team format, but I really haven't read anything about it* - shua June 7, 2022, 8:05:56 Yes, and the teams change for each event - jdl June 7, 2022, 9:01:53 Is there a single team captain, or perhaps a non-playing manager? - osklister June 7, 2022, 9:09:53 Each team has a captain - jdl June 7, 2022, 9:18:22 Ball Hate Me.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 8:00:06 Half of those look like 90s clipart* - UIHuskie June 7, 2022, 7:58:46 Saudi Arabia just got Windows 3.2* - shua June 7, 2022, 8:02:22 They hired the first graphic designer that responded on Upwork* - CWR10 June 7, 2022, 7:57:17 It’s their passion.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 7:59:49 lol* - Ron McDon June 7, 2022, 7:44:15 Looks like cheesy ass generated teams from an old unlicensed video game.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 7:43:02 are we calling it LIV as in (a) Liv Tyler, (b) el-eye-vee, or (c) 54 Tour?* - bbonb June 6, 2022, 17:50:40 …and were immediately beheaded for Pride Month.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 6, 2022, 15:30:02 Tiger’s got a much better legacy to protect - snipes824 June 6, 2022, 14:57:17 If Tiger moved, I'm positive that would kill the PGA* - KCWildcat June 6, 2022, 14:59:20 He’s barely played the last 3 years.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 8:04:59 No it wouldn't, he's basically not a member now and the tour is doing great - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 15:15:23 RUMOUR that Chicago Fire broadcaster Arlo White to be the broadcaster* - Poldark June 6, 2022, 9:56:07 Oh Arlo, no. * - ijustkrushalot June 6, 2022, 11:31:47 Yeah that’s a bummer* - Herman Blume June 6, 2022, 16:50:54 Is it a rumour if USA Today announced it?* - KCWildcat June 6, 2022, 11:29:18 Rumors of Rickie and Phil to LIV golf* - CWR10 June 6, 2022, 9:25:01 $200M? - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 14:11:50 move is official... we'll see about the $ - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 14:14:21 Honestly, good move for Phil. Can’t compete on the tour anymore, so cash in* - Carl Spackler June 6, 2022, 14:22:11 FIGJAM! - KCWildcat June 6, 2022, 14:17:04 "please don't cut off my head" * - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 14:17:58 FIGJPDCOMH* - Herman Blume June 6, 2022, 16:52:54 And Kevin Na resigned from the PGA tour over the weekend - jdl June 6, 2022, 9:55:58 Legal maneuvering from them to avoid USGA/R&A issues - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 9:58:38 Exactly * - jdl June 6, 2022, 9:59:05 Good move for Rickie. He's gonna be off the PGA Tour soon anyway* - HamptonSki June 6, 2022, 9:36:01 nm * - jdl June 1, 2022, 17:35:04 Rumor is 3 mo suspension for playing in the first event, 6 mo for the next one * - jdl June 1, 2022, 17:35:03 That's it? Seems like a no brainer for more players to follow suit* - HamptonSki June 3, 2022, 9:09:35 For some it's no big deal - jdl June 3, 2022, 9:32:07 Give me the $150 million. #### the PGA* - bjl63 June 3, 2022, 8:38:10 How is this allowed? I smell a lawsuit* - CubsWonWorldSeries June 1, 2022, 18:20:13 As members of the tour, they agreed to the tour’s operating agreement. - Dikta June 1, 2022, 18:32:23 Or an agreement of some sort is reached - bjl63 June 3, 2022, 8:46:21 Losing some guys who are reaching the back 9 of their careers (NPI) isn't a big deal. - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 10:30:03 speculation that Phil could still end up playing in the first LIV event - Orangeillini June 1, 2022, 12:58:41 Will be bummed if that happens, but I think it will. I haven’t read Shipnuck’s book - Dikta June 1, 2022, 13:39:36 I can't imagine he's heading towards broke with all of the endorsement money he brings in... - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 17:24:33 it goes pretty decent into gambling, and Phil lost his endorsement's recently - ab75 June 1, 2022, 17:39:05 Just now getting into the details of the Dean Foods/insider trading stuff… - uofi1998 June 3, 2022, 8:33:55 Phil lives life like he plays golf, it seems; way to close to the sun at times - ab75 June 6, 2022, 9:35:00 It seems like a miracle he didn’t get in serious trouble for Dean Foods. - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 10:46:32 I believe the $40M includes the caveat that only losses are reported... - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 17:48:18 PGA selling Valhalla - jdl June 1, 2022, 12:53:52 Unrelated golf note - former Illini Varun Chopra monday qualified for this week's KF event - jdl June 1, 2022, 10:46:54 The college amateurs are interesting. What’s their angle?* - John Coctostan June 1, 2022, 10:21:36 money. not being old enough to remember 9/11. * - assassin June 1, 2022, 10:24:09 But they are amateurs. If they are giving up their amateur status to play this, I assume - John Coctostan June 1, 2022, 10:27:38 they are getting NIL deals, correct?* - ab75 June 1, 2022, 15:43:23 1. It's really ####ing hard to make the PGA Tour. - HamptonSki June 1, 2022, 10:38:55 I guess they are not getting any prize money - jdl June 1, 2022, 10:35:13 The appearance fees for them will be considered NIL money* - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 10:29:53 I didn’t realize the money was so huge until reading about it this morning - snipes824 June 1, 2022, 9:23:15 Does this trainwreck even have a website? Isnt the entire season like 8 events?* - OrangeSox June 1, 2022, 8:50:43 And no broadcast partner AFAIK - jdl June 1, 2022, 8:57:07 They released the field in a poorly formatted excel table* - OrangeSox June 1, 2022, 8:54:40 DJ is an idiot (not that this is news) - CWR10 June 1, 2022, 8:25:29 I’m not so sure. He’s 38 and clearly on the decline. He’s made $5MM/year on the last 3 years - GMAW June 1, 2022, 8:59:34 Could this potentially affect senior tour eligibility? - DT June 1, 2022, 9:28:05 DJ is rumored to be getting a guarantee of $150 million - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 9:10:34 The salient question is, what’s the guarantee that it will ever get paid? - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 9:35:33 I mean Saudi Arabia has unlimited money - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 9:44:19 What country’s laws preside? - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 10:00:21 DJ isn't going to give up all of his endorsements and PGA card - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 10:17:26 I would certainly think that was a material consideration for him.* - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 10:57:33 If true, taking the money is an easy choice* - bjl63 June 1, 2022, 9:26:51 Hard to blame him if that’s anywhere close to accurate. Guys sign with the Steelers for a lot less.* - DT June 1, 2022, 9:28:51 That number is insane if true. - CWR10 June 1, 2022, 9:17:31 Without him, their announcement yesterday is a total joke - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 9:28:18 Side benefit, probably means we never see Poulter or Westwood as a Ryder Cup captain - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 8:15:59 So is this thing kind of like if the NIT was funded by the world's largest terrorist organization? * - doubledown June 1, 2022, 8:05:56 *NCAA joke inbound* * - ijustkrushalot June 1, 2022, 8:12:30 Shocked Bryson wasn’t on the list. Gooch surprising, I hope to never see the Euros or Na again - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 8:05:45 Phil may wait for the Bonesaw Classic at Pumpkin Ridge…he may be too rusty right now* - Dikta June 1, 2022, 8:10:02 Are they really going to kick DJ off the tour?* - Mrap24 June 1, 2022, 7:55:13 RBC already cut ties with DJ. - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 8:21:38 His first Saudi tourney is the same weekend as RBC's PGA tourney. - HamptonSki June 1, 2022, 8:30:57 Couldn't he still play in the Masters and The Open? - HamptonSki June 1, 2022, 8:08:50 Yes. Those aren’t run by the tour. Same with the PGA and the US Open* - Dikta June 1, 2022, 8:10:55 In that case, it doesn't sound like bad deal at all for him. - HamptonSki June 1, 2022, 8:17:20 He's the only "surprise" - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 1, 2022, 8:02:16 Gooch is a surprise, dude is 35th and rising - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 8:13:57 He has 1 career win and 11 top 10 finishes out of 118 events played* - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 1, 2022, 8:21:05 That win and 4 of the top 10s have been this season - jdl June 1, 2022, 8:56:10 That doesn't mean he's a "surprise" departure from the PGA like DJ is - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 1, 2022, 8:59:07 Yes by your definition he isn't a DJ level surprise but he's a surprise nonetheless* - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 9:11:52 Sure, didn't say he was - jdl June 1, 2022, 9:06:20 I don’t think they have a choice. That’s been their position all along* - Dikta June 1, 2022, 7:59:31 a link would be helpful here - IlliniSax05 June 1, 2022, 7:54:50 Ooo - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 1, 2022, 8:00:52   Searching