Of course...but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't snow anymore. * Archived Message Posted by haighter on June 6, 2022, 9:24:16, in reply to "But yet CA residents oppose desalination plants, no?*" Previous Message Previous Message ...30 years ago...not 1000 years ago. Previous Message [url=https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139418/air-pollutant-emissions-by-type-us/#:~:text=In%201970%2C%20approximately%2026.8%20million,tons%20between%201990%20and%202021.]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1139418/air-pollutant-emissions-by We have made great progress on pollution and air quality (actual threats to people), this idea that we have an immediate climate emergency just seems hysterical to me. And yes, there are areas of the world that have water issues or other things, but thats because 1000 years ago we had 5% of the population we do now and couldn't ever dream of living in certain climates. Message Thread: | This response ↓ New record: NOAA records CO2 levels at 421 ppm. Highest ever. - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 5:54:10 i will reiterate what a JPL rocket scientist who studies climate change for a living said to me.... - suburbanmyth June 6, 2022, 12:28:47 It’s the classic boiling frog. Slowly ratchets up each year until we ask WTF has been going on… - LeatherneckIllini June 6, 2022, 13:46:43 It's a problem that could take generations to address, so the sooner the better. - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 12:34:13 agree; no downside other than opportunity cost in committing resources that could.... - suburbanmyth June 6, 2022, 12:36:37 Yep* - Tooldresser June 6, 2022, 13:31:34 China and India are increasing their coal output by 700 million tons this year, - Tooldresser June 6, 2022, 12:12:59 And they have 8.5 times the population of the US. * - IlliniRunner June 6, 2022, 12:15:42 It will take a lot of energy for the to bring their people to a European/American standard of livin - Tooldresser June 6, 2022, 12:54:53 Per capita carbon emissions, metric tons/year: USA 15.2, China 7.4, India 1.8 - IlliniRunner June 6, 2022, 12:18:53 Sure.* - Tooldresser June 6, 2022, 12:52:12 Well happy Monday to us * - MC June 6, 2022, 11:02:19 But but but we got carbon scrubbers deployed. - timmer June 6, 2022, 9:00:17 Perhaps driving a 5000 lb car isn't helping - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 8:28:00 that was not a good article* - ECEIllinois June 6, 2022, 13:34:15 Do as I say, not as I do* - HamptonSki June 6, 2022, 8:34:22 See below, you twat. Stop immediately beating your dick to a bloody stump - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 8:35:37 Maybe they should think about switching to tires instead. * - doubledown June 6, 2022, 8:33:39 A-mine weighs 6,000 lbs. B-drive it less than 30 miles per week. C-you are getting dangerously close - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 8:33:26 look I try to make good climate decisions whenever possible in my personal life - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 8:57:10 EV cradle to grave pollution is significantly lower than ICE vehicles. - ATL June 6, 2022, 13:37:00 This focuses on climate change related emissions but it’s directionally correct for all emissions - ATL June 6, 2022, 13:51:20 That Telluride you ordered come in yet?* - Chilango June 6, 2022, 10:02:20 It just did, loving it so far* - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 10:19:57 what color did you go with?* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 10:20:22 Wolf Gray, nightfall - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 10:35:15 Looking sharp* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 10:42:02 The “does it matter” thing is such a weak minded cop out. Whether it’s guns or environment… - Desert June 6, 2022, 9:36:09 for sure. And I would argue that it does matter, regardless of what China does. - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 9:05:15 Sure, it's just not an existential threat though - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 9:19:31 Eh...we have water issues because it doesn't snow in the sierras nearly as much as it did... - haighter June 6, 2022, 9:21:37 100 years ago there were 3 million people in California, in 1990 30 million, today 40 million - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 9:25:57 Almonds suck. Almond milk needs to go away. * - MC June 6, 2022, 11:01:32 Oh man...I had a friend try for a good 10 minutes to convince me... - haighter June 6, 2022, 12:27:56 That's silly. Almond milk is what, 90% water? 95% water? I don't think humans need either* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 12:47:39 Oat milk is the best. *closes thread* (nm) - MC June 6, 2022, 12:45:47 It might have actually been Oat Milk. They were staying with us and brought... - haighter June 6, 2022, 13:17:29 ooo - IlliniSax05 June 6, 2022, 12:47:13 Aren’t you always saying we need more people?* - Sounder June 6, 2022, 9:49:05 We're on the same page here...apparently all that population caused it to snow less than... - haighter June 6, 2022, 9:39:55 But yet CA residents oppose desalination plants, no?* - Dilbert June 6, 2022, 9:22:44 That and not making lush urban oases* - ghost_of_clt June 6, 2022, 9:25:08 Of course...but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't snow anymore. * - haighter June 6, 2022, 9:24:16 Particulates aren't related to climate change.* - ATL June 6, 2022, 8:30:16 well, humans are just a blip on the earth's timeline and it will hopefully heal it's self... - shua June 6, 2022, 8:20:05 The earth will be fine. People are ####ed. (Carlin)* - Phytynlini June 6, 2022, 9:51:41 Arby's has a hamburger now!* - Sammich June 6, 2022, 8:25:50 Don't worry, Leo DiCaprio will host another climate change conference and save the day. - HamptonSki June 6, 2022, 8:11:19 What produces more CO2? An average private jet in one year, or the mfg of a single Tesla battery?* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 8:34:14 Private jet, no? - Dilbert June 6, 2022, 9:05:08 I'm not sure, but I bet it is pretty close* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 9:09:22 I don't think it is based on this quick search - Dilbert June 6, 2022, 9:13:22 I also mistyped "in one year." WHOOPS. but yeah, private jets are bad, mmmkay?* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 9:30:46 Fo sho* - Dilbert June 6, 2022, 9:53:48 I don't know and I don't really ####ing care* - HamptonSki June 6, 2022, 8:42:01 That’s clear* - snipes824 June 6, 2022, 8:51:07 I know.* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 8:43:57 I will never own either one. Why would it matter to me?* - HamptonSki June 6, 2022, 10:00:12 I'll never get an abortion. Why would it matter to me?* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 10:17:28 I'll never own an assualt rifle. Why would it matter to me?* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 10:17:49 I'll never earn over $400,000, why would it matter to me?* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 10:18:14 I'll never be a gay black woman, why would it matter to me?* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 10:18:31 I'll never produce plastic bags, why would it matter to me?* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 10:19:35 Oh boy. Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays* - HamptonSki June 6, 2022, 10:48:21 I’m doing my part. I’ve started taking only 10 breaths per minute instead of 12, - doubledown June 6, 2022, 7:41:02 I know you're being snide, but it's on governments & corporations, not individuals.* - longsnapper June 6, 2022, 7:48:19 That's why we're all gonna die. * - doubledown June 6, 2022, 8:08:02 A few things. We're not all going to die. Just the coastal elites and southerners. - ATL June 6, 2022, 8:21:26 This shit always depresses me. Terrible and scary for the future * - Cunativeson June 6, 2022, 7:06:12 Saw some fairly terrifying demographic data on Africa last week - DT June 6, 2022, 7:41:17   Searching