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Posted by ab75 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ab75' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 8, 2022, 12:08:32, in reply to "$100M for Bryson"
that really should be blown up.

40 72 hole tournaments with a 3 tournament "playoff" is not ideal.
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https://twitter.com/daniel_rapaport/status/1534578919977930753?s=21&t=57x7EYUeHnVCZuNrtehtUw

As a fan, I hate this. I want all the best on one tour. Also #### the Saudis. But if you strip that all away, asking people to turn down $100M is kinda crazy. I get why these guys are doing it.
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Only really bummed about DJ. Meh about the amateurs and the euros are mostly has beens. Gooch is a surprise too.

This will be interesting to watch how the PGA reacts. Assuming if these guys play in a LIV event they’ll be suspended and then the litigation will begin.

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Saudi golf league commits came out… - Dikta June 1, 2022, 7:52:48
Rory: "21 wins. One more than 'someone else' (GN)." Brilliant* - Phytynlini June 12, 2022, 16:41:07
Loved it - jdl June 12, 2022, 16:44:23
Love me some Finau. What a balls putt. Shame it wasn’t enough. * - uofi1998 June 12, 2022, 16:41:01
Pga tour couldn't ask for a better Sunday on a weekend like this* - OrangeSox June 12, 2022, 16:36:31
Certainly couldn’t ask for a better final group. Super popular players… - uofi1998 June 12, 2022, 16:41:38
Cool scene, great Sunday, eff LIV golf* - bigbop85 June 12, 2022, 16:34:29
Too bad Rory made $2.5 million less for his efforts this weekend!* - Dilbert June 12, 2022, 17:19:18
59 watch for Rose - jdl June 12, 2022, 14:28:46
Everybody going low. Fins is tracking towards a 63-65 and is losing ground. Cray cray * - uofi1998 June 12, 2022, 15:38:06
Lots of oil being leaked now - jdl June 12, 2022, 16:03:03
Pun intended?* - HamptonSki June 12, 2022, 16:03:29
LOL no * - jdl June 12, 2022, 16:06:03
And then he does that out of a hot lie. Just won it on 17. No jinx * - uofi1998 June 12, 2022, 16:15:17
JT with the assist * - jdl June 12, 2022, 16:20:54
On a Sunday? That's a terrible course* - HamptonSki June 12, 2022, 15:26:29
Bogey on 18 for 60 * - jdl June 12, 2022, 15:14:27
Yes, Rory is on the watch * - jdl June 12, 2022, 14:56:14
Yes, you too can shoot no better than 75 and take home $120K - timmer June 12, 2022, 13:31:49
Rory, JT and Finau in tomorrow's final group - jdl June 11, 2022, 16:40:37
Nick getting "feature group" coverage on ESPN+ - jdl June 12, 2022, 13:18:59
Lying sacks of crap - jdl June 12, 2022, 13:24:55
Hardy 65 today, T20 * - jdl June 11, 2022, 15:12:23
Amazing two tweets here - John Coctostan June 9, 2022, 15:29:14
Wait third tweet makes it even better! - John Coctostan June 9, 2022, 15:30:26
Greg just can't stop stepping on his dick (because it's enormous)* - Phytynlini June 9, 2022, 16:09:27
I didn’t think 3LG could be a bigger villain* - Dikta June 9, 2022, 15:43:47
Video - jdl June 9, 2022, 15:34:39
Norman clearly knew what was going on there* - John Coctostan June 9, 2022, 15:59:48
...and, in 45 seconds, we've seen why taking Saudi money is a display of ones ethics. - uofi1998 June 9, 2022, 15:39:33
is it because alan is gay or is it just because he's jewish..... - suburbanmyth June 11, 2022, 15:27:54
Pretty good take on the situation here - jdl June 9, 2022, 13:36:53
Regrettably, I think this will make golf like tennis…the 4 majors matter and nothing else… - Dikta June 9, 2022, 16:03:42
My only hope is Jay leans into the PGL stuff…teams up with that group - Dikta June 9, 2022, 16:06:20
Nice opening round for Hardy, -2 * - jdl June 9, 2022, 13:34:10
Just looked on ESPN.com to see if they had updated their interface at all. - OB25 June 9, 2022, 10:20:09
Part of my complete lack of interest in LIV is the format. - uofi1998 June 9, 2022, 10:22:03
It is stroke play - jdl June 9, 2022, 10:31:30
Gotta wonder if as their fields of players get larger whether they will add in a cut line at some - harb June 9, 2022, 11:40:35
I think the intent is not have a large field of players* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 11:56:49
Isn’t part of their “thing” that everyone who plays gets paid?* - Mrap24 June 9, 2022, 11:42:00
Plus with their shotgun start format the fields have to be small * - jdl June 9, 2022, 11:53:55
PGA Tour has suspended all current and future LIV golfers - jdl June 9, 2022, 8:43:14
LIV response - jdl June 9, 2022, 9:14:24
I sort of actually hope this thing succeeds.* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 8:56:19
Yeah, I'm kind of rooting for them at this point. - HamptonSki June 9, 2022, 9:17:34
I hope the PGL (original idea) and PGA join forces* - ab75 June 9, 2022, 8:57:46
agreed - bigbop85 June 9, 2022, 9:46:19
Live stream for 1st event - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:43:21
"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by PGA TOUR"* - gvibes June 9, 2022, 9:19:21
lol* - Sammich June 9, 2022, 9:20:48
Well the coverage is way better than CBS - jdl June 9, 2022, 8:38:39
if only they could get Romo* - bbonb June 9, 2022, 10:32:11
Really solid production considering no streaming or broadcast rights* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 9:03:54
could use a better rules analyst* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 9:52:02
Yes ... The PGA tour needs a full reset, but I hope this isn't it leading to split leagues that both - ab75 June 9, 2022, 8:57:06
I think it's going to be a rough period to go through - jdl June 9, 2022, 9:00:15
Outside the sportswashing, the only thing I really fear is the - ab75 June 9, 2022, 9:01:46
I don't buy that the Masters will ban folks. I am sure they have members who do significant - Gus Johnson June 9, 2022, 9:20:16
lol that Phil is wearing an Augusta vest - bigbop85 June 9, 2022, 8:25:22
And now wearing a different vest - jdl June 9, 2022, 10:11:43
Cocaine's a hell of a drug* - HamptonSki June 9, 2022, 10:31:17
Yeah, he will. Masters DGAF* - HamptonSki June 9, 2022, 9:16:36
Do you know who the Augusta membership is? - bigbop85 June 9, 2022, 9:49:12
Mickelson looks like a bum* - KCWildcat June 9, 2022, 8:23:52
New link - jdl June 9, 2022, 8:04:57
LOL - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:59:00
Or not... - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 7:58:46
They were streaming the ESPN+ feed of the RBC - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:59:44
Ah* - Dilbert June 9, 2022, 8:00:36
for some reason I had it in my head that this was all being played in Saudi Arabia... - shua June 9, 2022, 7:52:09
Yeah, only 1 event in SA * - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:58:34
Sand traps there are epic.* - DT June 9, 2022, 8:00:38
Imagine trying to rake those. - osklister June 9, 2022, 8:04:29
That would be an amusing hole—like the island green except instead of water, it’s all sand* - DT June 9, 2022, 8:05:53
again with the sand?! Make it stop* - bbonb June 9, 2022, 8:07:39
You've got mail! - jdl June 9, 2022, 7:42:04
000 - Mrap24 June 8, 2022, 12:27:02
LOL. Good source but could be wrong - bbonb June 8, 2022, 12:55:33
I'm calling BS on the Masters banning them* - HamptonSki June 8, 2022, 12:43:59
That is the current belief - ab75 June 8, 2022, 13:39:49
Why? * - jdl June 8, 2022, 12:56:43
Because the Masters plays by their own rules 100% of the time. - HamptonSki June 8, 2022, 13:39:55
Weird, those are exactly the reasons I think they would ban them * - jdl June 8, 2022, 13:59:11
In fact I think that is the reason they're the only one of the 4 with the balls to do it - ab75 June 8, 2022, 13:56:43
he doesn’t think the Masters will ban them* - bbonb June 8, 2022, 12:57:47
USGA didn't implement it, but rules can change* - KCWildcat June 8, 2022, 13:02:49
My guess is bc the event is next week. Things can change in a year* - Mrap24 June 8, 2022, 13:35:40
[Bubba Watson]* - HamptonSki June 8, 2022, 12:08:32
I'm seeing an asshole trend* - KCWildcat June 8, 2022, 12:16:26
Absolutely. Billy Horschel has to be next* - CWR10 June 8, 2022, 12:17:46
$100M for Bryson - snipes824 June 8, 2022, 12:03:37
Big chunk of change for Peabo. - osklister June 8, 2022, 12:49:26
It's a whole new world* - shua June 8, 2022, 13:01:33
Yeah, that’s crazy money - DT June 8, 2022, 12:09:51
Hoping it gets the PGA tour to make some changes - jdl June 8, 2022, 12:09:07
I hate that it's Saudi money, but the PGA is a stale, boring model - ab75 June 8, 2022, 12:08:32
Good background read - jdl June 8, 2022, 9:04:31
Makes Ryder Cup selections interesting… - SurfTheBoneyard June 8, 2022, 8:06:15
They are choosing the exhibition event that pays them a lot more * - jdl June 8, 2022, 8:17:20
Anyone resigning their PGA membership isn’t eligible* - GMAW June 8, 2022, 8:07:39
More importantly, what team are you going to root for? - timmer June 8, 2022, 7:59:00
welcome to yesterday, holly... - shua June 8, 2022, 8:05:20
[Patrick Reed and DeChambeau] - KCWildcat June 8, 2022, 7:42:49
Totally on brand.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 8, 2022, 7:52:03
Do they have a media deal for this thing yet? - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 17:54:17
supplying them with tens of billions of dollars weapons = fine; playing at some golf events - gvibes June 7, 2022, 19:38:52
$$$$$$; the equivalent of everyone piling on the NBA's relationship with china as if that is our.... - suburbanmyth June 8, 2022, 12:53:13
It’s the very definition of a successful corporate propaganda campaign* - GMAW June 8, 2022, 8:13:50
Completely agree. So much Twitter outrage. - nash June 7, 2022, 19:45:09
No, first event is streaming on Youtube and Facebook * - jdl June 7, 2022, 18:00:28
Bryson rumors rumbling * - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:10:23
Definitely meathead enough.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 17:41:59
Him, Rickie and Brooks would fit in well * - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:44:20
How much coke has Phil been doing? - snipes824 June 7, 2022, 16:12:41
Looks like a botched face lift.* - Toonces June 7, 2022, 21:28:22
Whoa... those do look like coke eyes.* - uofi1998 June 7, 2022, 17:48:40
*ahem* key bump eyes* - ghost_of_clt June 7, 2022, 19:13:22
ooo - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:19:16
ooo - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:16:12
Lol* - snipes824 June 7, 2022, 17:39:28
he looks exactly what I'd expect a guy that has massive gambling losses and is making a deal with - John Coctostan June 7, 2022, 17:15:16
Yeah big uncut gems vibes* - snipes824 June 7, 2022, 17:44:28
Is that the rumor?* - Sounder June 7, 2022, 17:16:26
Among other things - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:17:23
yikes* - Sounder June 7, 2022, 17:39:37
His degenerate gambling tendencies are well documented on the Tour* - ilinni11 June 8, 2022, 12:11:04
Don Junior levels* - Sounder June 7, 2022, 16:58:27
USGA not banning any players from this year's Open - jdl June 7, 2022, 12:05:54
Yes, the interesting thing will be OWGR points over time - ab75 June 7, 2022, 13:30:59
They'd need to get rid of the 54 hole no cut format - jdl June 7, 2022, 14:25:02
Looks like two events are at Trump courses. - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 8:49:17
ooo - bigbop85 June 7, 2022, 8:51:30
When the headline is all you read… - uofi1998 June 7, 2022, 9:11:55
Must Protect!* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 9:04:25
I'm curious how this will end up affecting sponsorships. - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 7, 2022, 8:35:12
One would think they accounted for that in their contract… - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 8:48:17
Fireballs GC! - jdl June 7, 2022, 7:40:47
It all makes sense now - jdl June 7, 2022, 17:51:03
Kind of want - jdl June 7, 2022, 15:23:58
I expect this to have all the success of the XFL, USFL, etc* - IlliniRunner June 7, 2022, 12:10:48
Except the Saudis have an almost bottomless pot of money to throw at it. - Herman Blume June 7, 2022, 13:35:26
What's their goal?* - KCWildcat June 7, 2022, 13:42:14
Sportswashing * - jdl June 7, 2022, 14:27:41
Niblicks GC, formerly known as Mashies GC. * - osklister June 7, 2022, 8:10:29
I didn't realize this was a team format, but I really haven't read anything about it* - shua June 7, 2022, 8:05:56
Yes, and the teams change for each event - jdl June 7, 2022, 9:01:53
Is there a single team captain, or perhaps a non-playing manager? - osklister June 7, 2022, 9:09:53
Each team has a captain - jdl June 7, 2022, 9:18:22
Ball Hate Me.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 8:00:06
Half of those look like 90s clipart* - UIHuskie June 7, 2022, 7:58:46
Saudi Arabia just got Windows 3.2* - shua June 7, 2022, 8:02:22
They hired the first graphic designer that responded on Upwork* - CWR10 June 7, 2022, 7:57:17
It’s their passion.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 7:59:49
lol* - Ron McDon June 7, 2022, 7:44:15
Looks like cheesy ass generated teams from an old unlicensed video game.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 7:43:02
are we calling it LIV as in (a) Liv Tyler, (b) el-eye-vee, or (c) 54 Tour?* - bbonb June 6, 2022, 17:50:40
…and were immediately beheaded for Pride Month.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 6, 2022, 15:30:02
Tiger’s got a much better legacy to protect - snipes824 June 6, 2022, 14:57:17
If Tiger moved, I'm positive that would kill the PGA* - KCWildcat June 6, 2022, 14:59:20
He’s barely played the last 3 years.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 7, 2022, 8:04:59
No it wouldn't, he's basically not a member now and the tour is doing great - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 15:15:23
RUMOUR that Chicago Fire broadcaster Arlo White to be the broadcaster* - Poldark June 6, 2022, 9:56:07
Oh Arlo, no. * - ijustkrushalot June 6, 2022, 11:31:47
Yeah that’s a bummer* - Herman Blume June 6, 2022, 16:50:54
Is it a rumour if USA Today announced it?* - KCWildcat June 6, 2022, 11:29:18
Rumors of Rickie and Phil to LIV golf* - CWR10 June 6, 2022, 9:25:01
$200M? - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 14:11:50
move is official... we'll see about the $ - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 14:14:21
Honestly, good move for Phil. Can’t compete on the tour anymore, so cash in* - Carl Spackler June 6, 2022, 14:22:11
FIGJAM! - KCWildcat June 6, 2022, 14:17:04
"please don't cut off my head" * - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 14:17:58
FIGJPDCOMH* - Herman Blume June 6, 2022, 16:52:54
And Kevin Na resigned from the PGA tour over the weekend - jdl June 6, 2022, 9:55:58
Legal maneuvering from them to avoid USGA/R&A issues - bigbop85 June 6, 2022, 9:58:38
Exactly * - jdl June 6, 2022, 9:59:05
Good move for Rickie. He's gonna be off the PGA Tour soon anyway* - HamptonSki June 6, 2022, 9:36:01
nm * - jdl June 1, 2022, 17:35:04
Rumor is 3 mo suspension for playing in the first event, 6 mo for the next one * - jdl June 1, 2022, 17:35:03
That's it? Seems like a no brainer for more players to follow suit* - HamptonSki June 3, 2022, 9:09:35
For some it's no big deal - jdl June 3, 2022, 9:32:07
Give me the $150 million. #### the PGA* - bjl63 June 3, 2022, 8:38:10
How is this allowed? I smell a lawsuit* - CubsWonWorldSeries June 1, 2022, 18:20:13
As members of the tour, they agreed to the tour’s operating agreement. - Dikta June 1, 2022, 18:32:23
Or an agreement of some sort is reached - bjl63 June 3, 2022, 8:46:21
Losing some guys who are reaching the back 9 of their careers (NPI) isn't a big deal. - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 10:30:03
speculation that Phil could still end up playing in the first LIV event - Orangeillini June 1, 2022, 12:58:41
Will be bummed if that happens, but I think it will. I haven’t read Shipnuck’s book - Dikta June 1, 2022, 13:39:36
I can't imagine he's heading towards broke with all of the endorsement money he brings in... - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 17:24:33
it goes pretty decent into gambling, and Phil lost his endorsement's recently - ab75 June 1, 2022, 17:39:05
Just now getting into the details of the Dean Foods/insider trading stuff… - uofi1998 June 3, 2022, 8:33:55
Phil lives life like he plays golf, it seems; way to close to the sun at times - ab75 June 6, 2022, 9:35:00
It seems like a miracle he didn’t get in serious trouble for Dean Foods. - uofi1998 June 6, 2022, 10:46:32
I believe the $40M includes the caveat that only losses are reported... - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 17:48:18
PGA selling Valhalla - jdl June 1, 2022, 12:53:52
Unrelated golf note - former Illini Varun Chopra monday qualified for this week's KF event - jdl June 1, 2022, 10:46:54
The college amateurs are interesting. What’s their angle?* - John Coctostan June 1, 2022, 10:21:36
money. not being old enough to remember 9/11. * - assassin June 1, 2022, 10:24:09
But they are amateurs. If they are giving up their amateur status to play this, I assume - John Coctostan June 1, 2022, 10:27:38
they are getting NIL deals, correct?* - ab75 June 1, 2022, 15:43:23
1. It's really ####ing hard to make the PGA Tour. - HamptonSki June 1, 2022, 10:38:55
I guess they are not getting any prize money - jdl June 1, 2022, 10:35:13
The appearance fees for them will be considered NIL money* - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 10:29:53
I didn’t realize the money was so huge until reading about it this morning - snipes824 June 1, 2022, 9:23:15
Does this trainwreck even have a website? Isnt the entire season like 8 events?* - OrangeSox June 1, 2022, 8:50:43
And no broadcast partner AFAIK - jdl June 1, 2022, 8:57:07
They released the field in a poorly formatted excel table* - OrangeSox June 1, 2022, 8:54:40
DJ is an idiot (not that this is news) - CWR10 June 1, 2022, 8:25:29
I’m not so sure. He’s 38 and clearly on the decline. He’s made $5MM/year on the last 3 years - GMAW June 1, 2022, 8:59:34
Could this potentially affect senior tour eligibility? - DT June 1, 2022, 9:28:05
DJ is rumored to be getting a guarantee of $150 million - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 9:10:34
The salient question is, what’s the guarantee that it will ever get paid? - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 9:35:33
I mean Saudi Arabia has unlimited money - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 9:44:19
What country’s laws preside? - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 10:00:21
DJ isn't going to give up all of his endorsements and PGA card - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 10:17:26
I would certainly think that was a material consideration for him.* - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 10:57:33
If true, taking the money is an easy choice* - bjl63 June 1, 2022, 9:26:51
Hard to blame him if that’s anywhere close to accurate. Guys sign with the Steelers for a lot less.* - DT June 1, 2022, 9:28:51
That number is insane if true. - CWR10 June 1, 2022, 9:17:31
Without him, their announcement yesterday is a total joke - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 9:28:18
Side benefit, probably means we never see Poulter or Westwood as a Ryder Cup captain - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 8:15:59
So is this thing kind of like if the NIT was funded by the world's largest terrorist organization? * - doubledown June 1, 2022, 8:05:56
*NCAA joke inbound* * - ijustkrushalot June 1, 2022, 8:12:30
Shocked Bryson wasn’t on the list. Gooch surprising, I hope to never see the Euros or Na again - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 8:05:45
Phil may wait for the Bonesaw Classic at Pumpkin Ridge…he may be too rusty right now* - Dikta June 1, 2022, 8:10:02
Are they really going to kick DJ off the tour?* - Mrap24 June 1, 2022, 7:55:13
RBC already cut ties with DJ. - uofi1998 June 1, 2022, 8:21:38
His first Saudi tourney is the same weekend as RBC's PGA tourney. - HamptonSki June 1, 2022, 8:30:57
Couldn't he still play in the Masters and The Open? - HamptonSki June 1, 2022, 8:08:50
Yes. Those aren’t run by the tour. Same with the PGA and the US Open* - Dikta June 1, 2022, 8:10:55
In that case, it doesn't sound like bad deal at all for him. - HamptonSki June 1, 2022, 8:17:20
He's the only "surprise" - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 1, 2022, 8:02:16
Gooch is a surprise, dude is 35th and rising - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 8:13:57
He has 1 career win and 11 top 10 finishes out of 118 events played* - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 1, 2022, 8:21:05
That win and 4 of the top 10s have been this season - jdl June 1, 2022, 8:56:10
That doesn't mean he's a "surprise" departure from the PGA like DJ is - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 1, 2022, 8:59:07
Yes by your definition he isn't a DJ level surprise but he's a surprise nonetheless* - bigbop85 June 1, 2022, 9:11:52
Sure, didn't say he was - jdl June 1, 2022, 9:06:20
I don’t think they have a choice. That’s been their position all along* - Dikta June 1, 2022, 7:59:31
a link would be helpful here - IlliniSax05 June 1, 2022, 7:54:50
Ooo - GrandmotherPearlsJam June 1, 2022, 8:00:52

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