100% this Archived Message Posted by Sounder on June 10, 2022, 13:32:51, in reply to "I think bike lanes on streets are a prime example of good intentions that are outweighed…" if you weighed the cost vs. benefit, they would almost assuredly never happen. Previous Message …by unintended consequences. Down by me, bike lanes are ubiquitous on 4-lane (plus suicide) arterials with 45-MPH speed limits. We never use them. Ever. Sidewalks only. I don’t care if walkers are offended or upset. I’m not planning to die because a soccer mom is dealing with an unruly 5-year old in the back seat. Anyway… carry on. Previous Message Part of my master urban plan is drasticly limit 53' trailers from the city. But this is a great example of how dangerous unprotected bike lanes are. https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/06/10/after-semi-truck-driver-kills-3-year-old-in-uptown-neighbors-say-intersection-has-long-been-a-recipe-for-disaster/ I just took a picture of this human urethra yesterday. Message Thread: | This response ↓ ComEd truck parks in bike lane, semi hits and kills toddler. - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 11:05:22 Hey Snapper: Good video on traffic congestion and why roads don't always help - ijustkrushalot June 10, 2022, 16:37:14 Going to the suburbs tonight, divvy to metra to walk to pub - reggiedunlop June 10, 2022, 16:17:53 What suburbs? - IlliniSax05 June 10, 2022, 16:19:04 you meeting up for drinks?* - reggiedunlop June 10, 2022, 16:20:05 If I was near park ridge sure. But I’m in the west burbs - IlliniSax05 June 10, 2022, 16:20:46 What's the standard burb range? That seems pretty close burb-wise* - reggiedunlop June 10, 2022, 17:31:18 That’s a 45 minute drive or so for me. Plus I’m already into my first rum, so… - IlliniSax05 June 10, 2022, 17:34:54 Yeah, 45 minutes is a decent drive* - reggiedunlop June 10, 2022, 18:21:45 Far west, right?* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes June 10, 2022, 16:33:02 Not that far. NE dupage county, right by 355 - IlliniSax05 June 10, 2022, 16:59:49 No, that's still far* - HamptonSki June 10, 2022, 18:04:35 355 is the far west line. - ISeeDeadHawkeyes June 10, 2022, 18:09:49 Park Ridge* - reggiedunlop June 10, 2022, 16:19:28 Nice. Downtown Park Ridge is hoppin nowadays* - HamptonSki June 10, 2022, 16:20:57 I would bike around town a lot more if it wasn't so dangerous* - ECEIllinois June 10, 2022, 16:02:55 Bellevue, WA to widen highway for a cool $700 million dollars. - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 14:38:11 Related to long trailers, on Monday when driving I-15 in Utah I saw... - EffinIllini June 10, 2022, 11:34:12 The 80 mph speed limits are wild * - ATL June 10, 2022, 12:06:02 West Texas has some roads with 85 MPH, which makes sense - bbonb June 10, 2022, 14:35:41 I rather enjoyed them. - EffinIllini June 10, 2022, 12:44:34 I just wish I had my A6 there instead of the compact suv. * - ATL June 10, 2022, 15:30:05 wonder what the gas mileage is on a Denali at 103* - assassin June 10, 2022, 14:57:33 Not good. But I can regularly get 30+ going 80-90 between Cleveland and Chicago. - ATL June 10, 2022, 15:31:24 For a while, no (daylight) speed limits in some Western states. - osklister June 10, 2022, 12:28:43 Yep. Recall seeing that in Montana.* - EffinIllini June 10, 2022, 12:47:27 There's a 106 mile stretch in Utah with no services, it's as desolate and remote as you can get. - Warrin'_Illini June 10, 2022, 12:33:39 I-70 west of Green River?* - ATL June 10, 2022, 15:40:12 Dat's rite.* - Warrin'_Illini June 10, 2022, 15:48:36 I recall a section of highway in Montana where I hit scan on the radio - Sounder June 10, 2022, 14:09:55 I thought you had said this before. Turns out, I was right. - VIV June 10, 2022, 14:19:41 Things I learned while in Utah (in regards to roads)... - EffinIllini June 10, 2022, 12:51:35 They both originate in Baltimore. US40 is the old National Road/Pike. The first road to the west. * - ATL June 10, 2022, 15:41:46 Human Urethra...the unreleased sequel to Human Centipede. - IlliniSax05 June 10, 2022, 11:19:16 I think bike lanes on streets are a prime example of good intentions that are outweighed… - uofi1998 June 10, 2022, 11:12:10 Agreed. Tucson likes to think of itself as biker friendly, and we have a lot of bike paths. But... - Desert June 10, 2022, 15:23:01 100% this - Sounder June 10, 2022, 13:32:51 There are more than a few white bikes around Gilbert... not all of it is bike lane... - uofi1998 June 10, 2022, 13:37:27 I buy all my lottery tickets in Gilbert. Missed that one week though... - osklister June 10, 2022, 13:46:47 yeah... that QT isn't too far from where I live... - uofi1998 June 10, 2022, 14:12:04 white bikes? Is that a racism thing?* - Sounder June 10, 2022, 13:38:34 Ghost bikes - ShoeShineBoy June 10, 2022, 13:49:38 Memorial to bikers killed while riding* - opey8 June 10, 2022, 13:47:31 Those are the worst - Sounder June 10, 2022, 13:50:48 what was that you were saying about "caring for other people"? - VIV June 10, 2022, 14:26:23 wow* - Dilbert June 10, 2022, 14:00:19 FWIW, I pretty much feel the same way with memorials in general - Sounder June 10, 2022, 14:01:06 has a memorial tattoo ~~~~>>>>> - IlliniSax05 June 10, 2022, 14:44:14 Does it include someone's face and/or a date?* - Sounder June 10, 2022, 14:55:41 Face no. Date of birth and date of death yes - IlliniSax05 June 10, 2022, 15:10:23 The bikes are to raise awareness of bicycle safety. Families don't put them up. - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 14:13:12 Okay, Eeyore* - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 13:52:57 Eeyore is awesome* - Sounder June 10, 2022, 14:08:25 He was really productive and people enjoyed being around him* - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 14:13:43 Are we just going to ignore the obvious reality that Tigger was tweaking hard?* - Sounder June 10, 2022, 14:26:05 This is too much like a "funny" Twitter post for me to continue* - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 14:28:16 (being called Eeyere isn't really an insult to me)* - Sounder June 10, 2022, 14:59:41 Roads should be 2, 3 or 5 lanes. (autofill) * - ijustkrushalot June 10, 2022, 11:50:08 Also, 45 mph limit is too high if pedestrians or bikers are present.* - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 11:21:42 Sounds great. I don’t think the arterials should have bike lanes for this very reason. * - uofi1998 June 10, 2022, 11:24:25 I think arterials should be two bus lanes, both directions, protected curb with trees, two traffic l - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 11:28:00 Protected and dedicated bike lanes should be mandatory* - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 11:13:38 I'm a bit of a vehicular cyclist, so I disagree - ijustkrushalot June 10, 2022, 11:52:49 There are plenty of people here who are *serious cyclists* who ride fast in those bike lanes... - uofi1998 June 10, 2022, 14:16:23 I don't see how integrated bike lanes will ever be safe, though.* - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 12:06:43 crashes typically happen at intersections, separated lanes take faster bikes out of line of sight - ijustkrushalot June 10, 2022, 12:15:48 A key distinction here is that there are different classes of bike user... - ijustkrushalot June 10, 2022, 11:59:43 Key word there is "protected". - osklister June 10, 2022, 11:21:34 If there's good enough public transit, bike and walking accessibility, you don't need street parking - longsnapper June 10, 2022, 11:22:55   Searching