So crimes are up in SF despite massive investment in SF and return of the professional class? Archived Message Posted by ATL on June 12, 2022, 17:53:16, in reply to "Property crime reporting (at least locally) is down…" kinda flies in the face of the arguments you’re making in this thread. Anywho, I imagine you’d agree that SF is in many ways a unique case as far as reporting goes. I have every reason to believe your point about police failure-induced reporting issues there. But I don’t think it correlates to much of the rest of the country. And property crime rates were down nationwide. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Crime is up - ATL June 12, 2022, 15:01:29 Here you go ATL, from Derek Thompson on the "well actually crime is down" crowd - bigbop85 June 13, 2022, 14:21:32 Saw that, which proves that crime is down.* - ATL June 13, 2022, 14:29:42 hahaha take an L man* - bigbop85 June 13, 2022, 14:47:39 maybe you both need to define the time period* - Dilbert June 13, 2022, 14:46:49 Neither one wants to do that* - Drippy June 13, 2022, 14:57:59 This isn't about the time period in question. Violent crime has been going down and - ATL June 13, 2022, 15:00:11 It's not even a time period thing. There are many times more robberies than there are homicides. - ATL June 13, 2022, 14:57:58 Wait until you read about those rural war zones - Chilango June 12, 2022, 19:15:59 can't wait to see how the Insurrection affects the 2021 numbers* - Orangeillini June 12, 2022, 17:44:48 But the arrow points down* - timmer June 12, 2022, 16:50:33 Crime is down from the height of the crack epidemic and the end of 30 years… - haighter June 12, 2022, 16:38:23 That’s a national statistic. What does white flight have to do with that? - ATL June 12, 2022, 16:43:05 Violent crime, even nationally, was largely driven my incredibly high violent crime rates… - haighter June 12, 2022, 16:51:50 That's a correlation but I don't buy causation. Crime has been an rising problem in SF, to give - ATL June 12, 2022, 17:02:02 Your post is about violent crime. Even here, violent crime is down-ish… - haighter June 12, 2022, 17:17:44 Crime is up. - ATL June 12, 2022, 17:29:37 Maybe you should just tell me the film you want me to watch… - haighter June 12, 2022, 17:32:45 I’m telling you not to watch the media narrative. And that the FBI reports that property crime is - ATL June 12, 2022, 17:36:03 “Ignore the narrative” - bigbop85 June 12, 2022, 18:05:28 Bump, seriously didn't think you could top your moronic Steph Curry post yet here we are* - bigbop85 June 12, 2022, 21:03:40 You mean the one I made before his 43 road points against a tough Celtics D?* - ATL June 12, 2022, 21:35:07 Keep digging - bigbop85 June 12, 2022, 22:07:44 Why are you ignoring the commensurate rise in rural crime? - Chilango June 13, 2022, 7:01:32 It rose in rural America but not nearly as much as the rest of the US and more specifically cities - bigbop85 June 13, 2022, 10:03:50 Property crime reporting (at least locally) is down… - haighter June 12, 2022, 17:47:18 Your use of the words "clear" and "clearing" are making it harder for me to agree with you. - complainant June 12, 2022, 18:38:13 We completely shuttered our downtown… - haighter June 13, 2022, 8:27:57 So crimes are up in SF despite massive investment in SF and return of the professional class? - ATL June 12, 2022, 17:53:16 Quality of life crimes? Absolutely. Only so much investment… - haighter June 12, 2022, 18:33:35 Dots…. - harb June 12, 2022, 18:02:02 Dots…. - ATL June 12, 2022, 18:05:28 “An apparent uptick” - bigbop85 June 12, 2022, 17:13:23 Thank you for refuting haighter’s thesis and agreeing with my point so efficiently.* - ATL June 12, 2022, 17:16:15 That doesn’t refute anything I said. * - haighter June 12, 2022, 17:29:35 I honestly admire Democrats not being able to look in the mirror - bigbop85 June 12, 2022, 17:22:29 Lol. - WhitmansFolly June 12, 2022, 21:15:28 I’m equally amazed that you continue to support a party that embraces white nationalism, condones an - ATL June 12, 2022, 17:46:21 What's amazing about it?* - Chicago1995 June 13, 2022, 14:22:48 So weird how it goes down the most during dem administrations.* - Herman Blume June 12, 2022, 17:20:13 I think of Maryland as Appalachia with a corridor. - complainant June 12, 2022, 17:07:32 I mean, Pennsylvania is Pittsburgh and Philadelphia with Kentucky in the middle. - ATL June 12, 2022, 17:10:08 perfect; no more questions for this witness* - suburbanmyth June 12, 2022, 16:59:34 Lol* - bigbop85 June 12, 2022, 15:03:48   Searching