Rod Smith with an early morning Flair tweet*
Rod just dropped another dancing Ric*
Hopefully lance Briggs has some kids too.*
ESL WR Keontez Lewis to UCLA (at least its not Mizzou)*
his son, yes*
Rob Delaney tweets the Holecek gif. Nice*
Nice. Needed this one.*
Love the bloodline. Not much interest from other schools, but at least its a fun name*
An in-state commit!!!!*
I didnít realize there wasnít one single in-stater in the last class. Mind blowing.*
You want your mind blown?
The last in-state Illinois commit who ended up signing with the Illini:
The last in-state Illinois commit who ended up signing with the Illini:
I couldnít tell you one thing that happened in 2018.*
Thompson leaving opened up a spot *
Quota is preserved *
Rest of the team should be able to rest easy for the next 528 days now
Iíve been really snarky, but I do like this one. Close to top 1000, private school kid.
You do have to wonder why Memphis is the only other P5 offer for a kid with bloodlines
That is my chosen take on this one.
Bowling Green is pissed.
They lost $2.2 million. Big money for a department thatís fighting to not cut sports
MAC football took a huge hit today *
so is Chuck Grassley
So Chuck has never seen °El Assico!
Lindsey Graham can fill him in.*
he falls asleep halfway through the first and then someone tells him what happened*
[easy non-conference football schedule]
The Big Ten is expected to announce today that it will go with a conference-only football schedule for this fall, a person with direct knowledge situation tells @TheAthleticCFB.
The Big Ten is expected to announce today that it will go with a conference-only football schedule for this fall, a person with direct knowledge situation tells @TheAthleticCFB.— Nicole Auerbach 😷 (@NicoleAuerbach) July 9, 2020
Well, our coaching staff will finally be exposed for what it is.
Assuming other conferences follow suit
Same as the rest of college football. Nothing. None of them are playing a game in 2020*
Play UMass 12 times.*
#### them. Join a conference*
Sounds like the ACC might include them in the scheduling
Notre Dame is basically an ACC school*
Domers everywhere screaming "OH HELL NO WE'RE NOT"
All the non P5 teams will be trying to save themselves from bankruptcy based on this...
So if you really take a step back, this is ultimately the end of the college football season, right?
The end of college sports as we know them *
Yep thatís what Iím thinking too*
Rittenberg saying schedule will be front loaded with division opponents*
1-9. Hopefully they can beat Rutgers*
I presume Illinois won't be playing at Rutgers
Our 22 game home-opening win streak is also in jeopardy, assuming Purdue is our first home game.
But Clay Travis promised me that football season would go on as planned*
Ron Guenther finally gets his dream schedule.*
No, Alabama and Clemson on the road notably missing non-conference opponents*
So it's possible we lose our distinction of being the only team to defeat every other B1G school in
There's not going to be a season but if there was it would be a 10 game schedule.*
Ah, okay: I missed that part. TY for that info.
Safe to assume some small schools are going to really suffer without those paydays
I saw Bowling Green will lose 2.2 million by not playing OSU or Illini*
Assuming we can get out of these contracts. I doubt there was a pandemic clause in any of them.*
So probably going to add an extra big ten game to make it a 10 game season?*
They would have to. There's only 9 conference games on the schedule now.*
Thereís not going to be a season*
probably something about minimizing travel
would guess travel concerns / logistics re: testing outside the conference*
Normal ----> Champaign
Good. No empty calories. Win or STFU *
So what will bowl berth minimums be now? 4 wins? Or Top 8 or 9 in the conference?*
No bowls, expand playoff to 32 teams*
#### it, we're doing 64 teams
Better yet, single elimination season*
god i hope not.
(in another sense bad because i just like watching more football)
3-7 Come On Down!*
That's optimistic IMO*
If it means a new coaching staff, then fine*
We're Illinois. We've kept coaches with far, far flimsier excuses than this*
"...Miles is our HC....."
prolly time for werner to reconsider his 4th place vote*
CB Joseph Thompson in the transfer portal*
Canít have any Chicago guys on the roster. Mission almost accomplished. *
Hasn't played football in a couple of years due to injuries.
can an athlete get stuck in the portal?*
Some of those O-linemen are pretty darn chubby.....
I don't know what Lovie's contract looks like, but what's the consensus of when he's gone?...
PJ Fleck wouldíve taken this job if weíd offered it to him
I would have loved it too
it doesn't matter if we like Fleck. HS recruits seem to like Fleck a lot
I think it could change really quickly if he has a bad season, his BS only works when he is winning.
Can't fire the only black coach you've ever had in this climate
Yep, he will win just enough games to keep him around....
Should be in the past, but definitely this year after we win six again.
After 2021 and say hello to Coach Miles.*
barring unforeseen success, i'll say 2 years
New commis - Kalen Villanueva
looks like he wants to come and play school too - Aspiring Robotic Engineer*
*Whispers* I'm not as sour on it as I was when I initially saw the tweet
When nearly the entire class is made up of recruits that you need to squint hard to see potential in
I donít think they had a plan post-Trinity and needed 2019 to not be such a flop.
Even just Trinity-speaking, the odd thing is they pretty much decided to ignore that school like ESL
Iím cool with not groveling to JSJ even tho kids are dumb but heís not good enough to pull
I mean, we took Sparks, Griffin, etc
this was my thought
Yeah I donít like that everyone is seemingly a lottery ticket these days but oh well
Roughy is going to be pissed that we never offered Kevin Hardy's kid.
That'd all be fine if we didn't have to do these mental gymnastics on damn near every recruit
yup. I can talk myself into each of our recruits individually
He still has to know how to football.
i'm fine reaching on one to two recruits like this a year
Sure, I wouldnít be saying this if we had a halfway decent class.
this is a bad class. among the worst we've ever had
Didn't even know we were pushing for him.*
We are absolutely screwed for the long-term, and the short-term isn't great, either*
Seems almost unfathomable that someone who has coached/developed some of the best LBs to ever play
Yeahóthe basic premises and hopes behind the Lovie hire have all turned out to be fantasies
His buyout should no longer be an issue.
Yeah, after we kept him for the one extra year needed to completely crater the program.
the time to push him out the door was after Year 3
Covid locked in our place for a while too.
Lou Tepper was .500 or above in conference play his first three seasons
Lovie's secret recruiting weapon discovered on his desk
Miles doesn't get his own desk? *
He gets to work from Lovie's office.*
apparently recruited for LB*
No worries. I'm sure he has Power 5 traits*
Werner really likes that phrase *
His articles almost write themselves
ďPower 5 traitsĒ ďSolid evaluation by the staffĒ
ďPower 5 traitsĒ
ďSolid evaluation by the staffĒ
Werner has turned into a company man clown*
The talking points coming out of the north side of Kirby are really annoying.
I was told that recruiting was going to be fine now with the bowl and the Smith center*
It also doesn't tell you anything, most MAC players have P5 athletic traits
Take that William! You too Mary!*
Everyone knows that William & Mary won't do. *
that would be bad
Tweets have confirmed
His physical transformation is pretty impressive...
Have we just given up on real recruiting?*
Mizzou CB for ESL WR Keontez Lewis*
Seems the CB's expect DD Snyder (FL DB) to commit to UI in a few hours*
current class rank = 12/14 in conference. Average player rank = 14/14 in conference
Terrible double post. *
So you're saying there's a chance....
He just committed to us.
Our wheelhouse seems to be the 190-210 ranked recruits in FL*
Yep. Itís the fringe P5 player out of FL we have a ton of success with
1500 recruiting rank = 60th best team, basically.
Thereís no getting off the txfer train at this point, even with a coaching change
Some of the recent success that new coaches have had on the recruiting trail is encouraging
Schiano has signed 9 txfers for this season
louisville, indiana, and washington state are the other P5 in his final 6*
winning with top 1500!!*
are we gonna take it?*
Only if he really wants to rock.*
I think you two have just gone thru their entire set list....
Based on coach twitter traffic, seems like it*
Elite 11 QB Ranking (Macon)
James Kirkland must still be evaluating his film*
Little known fact: full name is James Tiberius Kirkland. *
Fleck cleared out his lowest rated recruit. Now, all 15 commits are top 1000*
There are some BLM complaints that are supposedly bubbling behind him
i'd think that's most college coaches
Only a matter of time until he rows his ass to a bigger, non-Arctic, program.*
It's just wishful thinking on my part. I'm one jaded mofo.*
Fleck is a really good college coach. i'm not sure he'd be a USC's cup of tea
I liken him to a Northern Lane Kiffin. I recognize it's not a direct comparison...
Minnesota is so well positioned right now. I can't emphasize enough how vital it was...
For Illinois to move up someone else has to move down
I recognize this is going to sound like the sky is falling, but...
i think it's just true that we've been mediocre in most facets under Lovie Smith
Right. Good teams force a lot of TOs... but they do it by...
we saw it last year at the end of the season
Iowa was the best performance of the season.
the wisconsin game we played them even
I don't know... a few turnovers made that a closer game. Could've easily been a 3-score game.*
Mack Brown still has it
he's doing a great job, i liked him on broadcasts
ESL Tweet (Miznoz)
Good thing we didn't want Macon. Meanwhile, the DeSoto DT that we hoped Collier could impact
In-state GBN OL Jackson Carsello to NW/Fitzy*
When your OL coach is nobody from nowhere who has no track record..............:*
I mean, isn't it always a good idea to hire a guy who was living in the OC's basement as a position
Yeah, I think the guy puts in the work, but his resume is simply substandard for his position.
He better be able to coach the underclassmen or else thatís going to be an embarrassing hire
Sadly, if he's even called a few recruits, he's a better recruiter than Luke was*
Lol this is like the points I was making last night! Still terrible, but somehow better lol
i'm less concerned about that than just the whole body of work in state
Right. We have Bellamy and nobody else, so the nobody OL coach is the lead recruiter.
I actually think the biggest problem is not landing instate OL.
damn. i really liked his highlight film.
15 years ago that would somewhat surprise me. Today Iíd have been surprised if we got him*
Yeah, Fitz's sell will resonate far more than our staff's in the CSN*
The moment NU offered I figured he was gone
Vic Koenning accusations.
STL Trinity S Ty Hibbler to Miznoz. They now have 13 top-1000 commitments
For comparison purposes, Lovie's best class at UI had 8 top-1000 recruits*
U Texas offers '23 STL recruit
Lovie Smith will never recruit well
Heís a horrifically poor constructor of P5 staffs. Itís absurd. *
I agree, he and the wife needed to have more sons.
Itís all bad, but maybe they only need to hit on a couple recruits anyway?
several responses to this post and the ones below
Out talent acquisition is anywhere from 10-14th since Lovie came in.
Hasnít it been dead for awhile though?
It doesn't appear like he's even trying from the outside looking in.
instate (and in the Midwest) it just seems like he doesn't care about it
His original plan was a recruiting triangle from St. Louis - Chicago - Cincinnati.
Itís not just a lack of instate guys. We lack Big Ten footprint guys.
there are many ways to build a roster, but i can't think of a team that intentionally recruits so
i just don't think you're going to get the quality or quantity trying to rely on the Sun Belt states
If there is a strategy at this point it's to upgrade talent through the portal.
No other P5 school in the country with a decent base tries to cheat geography like we do.
The plan seems to be going after recruits you can get without effort/sell
Tepper, Turner, and Zook all recruited fairly well at times
LOL, Eric Jefferson. Hadn't thought of that name in years. Tepper called him a one-reeler. :-)
BTW, O'neill Gilbert (the asst coach that brought in EJ) was a recruiting stud
so, funny story....
Those RT staffs had a lot of emerging talent. Payton, Frazier, Hiestand, etc
the party that night was actually at McMahon's house *
Loved him. So much frickin positive energy*
Back then, if anyone would have told me the Turner era would be a "those were the days" time... :-(
Had great conversations with Gilbert. Always a trip. He was convinced he'd be the future
LOL, I remember that!! When he took off (for the NFL IIRC) he made it a point to say he'd be HC here
i became aware of and started rooting for the team in the Mackovic era
Mine was the first game of the Mike White era at MS. First pass was a long bomb...
I was 3 during the Rose Bowl season, but tagged along to most of the games
i also remember that exact moment... we had tickets though through that Blackman era...
My first game was watching Ron Dayne rush for 190 yards. Maybe that set my expectations*
Agreed on all of this*
Agreed on all of this*
We didnít hire Lovie to be worse than bad, but thatís basically what youíre describing.
I don't know if I buy that. The guys that were being brought in before Lovie were not B1G players
This staff/Werner have gotten a ton of mileage out of 'Power 5 trait'
Just because it's used a lot doesn't mean it's not a valid point.
It's a useless statement that is purely for window dressing. Beckman and Cubits worst classes
I guess I'm going a little post hoc on this but I still think there's enough to see that Lovie has
he's made the roster better, but better enough?
We do have a better roster. The problem is that the rest of the B1G West has gotten so much better.
Better than Beckman/Cubit? Kind of a low bar to clear.
Better enough relative to the other conference teams *
Isnít that the school that Moses Okpala came from?*
Another failure by the Illinois recruiting staff. Demetrius Cannon to Louisville.
Werner was pretty clear, the staff preferred Chevy Benson
they're being awfully cavalier about this class. *
Beretta to the head, will this class finish in the top 70?*
Based on the size of the class alone, absolutely *
The pun thread is obviously Cruzing right over your head.*
I'm not sure it's his cobalt though.*
I would pass the same along to Werner if I was this staff
Pretty much. Just a bunch of rationalization.
I do like his tape though *
The 4 we got (after LB)from Trinity are great recruits, but that in general, is a missed opportunity
We're hardly even in STL right now... at least not near the level we were in recent years.
If there's a silver lining the speech at the press conference for the next coach
Should be a fun day in January 2025.*
Calculating my age as of January 2025; not pretty.
Miznoz gets a 4* LB commit from NC
When a coach starts, yes
We just got a CB for a Chevy....
And, DD Snyder (both from Werner)*
Question I woke up thinking about this morning regarding the 2021 season:
I think it all comes down to isaiah williams
The lines will almost certainly be too terrible to matter. *
yeah, especially OL*
i'm more bullish on the 2021 OL than most
I like Tyler, the rest are not very good*
The only knowns imo will be Calvin Avery, Keith Randolph, and Kendrick Green. Everything else...*
I think Seth Coleman will be the best DE this year. Huge believer in him*
not sure he ever gets there
I think he will be equal to Bobby Roundtree as a Sophomore
Green very likely to enter the draft after this season, IMO *
Heís gonna need to get a lot better in pass pro if heís getting drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round*
is Calvin Avery even a known?*
i don't think so. Demonstrated potential. TBD, wouldn't shock me either way *
I think he got much better as the season progressed last year, and heíll also have to be conditioned
I worry about him with extra time at home
2-3 wins. OL is going to be an abomination. Nothing else will matter. *
I think they are going to be acceptable OL in 2021
Do you think Lovie gets fired if that happens?*
Depends on this year.
This. He could go 0-12 this year & there is no way he would be fired. Heís here until 2023*
Theyíll lose a ton. 2 Ws is unlikely, but they wonít be super competitive in the B1G
Ugh. The one year they come here to play in Charlottesville.*
Yeah the trenches are what will concern me. If they can get any kind of run game from the QB
we moved to 12/14 in conference recruit rankings
Leaving IU and PU in the dust!!! (Actually, all the rankings I can find still have us in last.)
To take your 'top 1000' a step further
if your objective is "long grinding rebuild that kind of settles around .500"
Maybe he stabilizes it around .500 then retires and someone else takes over?
not a ton of examples like that, so while possible, i'm not sure how realistic
Two, they do OK (maybe really well) for a while, but then they collapse or their admin gets tired of them and they are fired. Joe Tiller, Paul Johnson, Mark D'Antonio, Bo Pellini, Ron Zook, are all examples of a guy like this. Three, they never get it off the ground and are fired quickly. Bunch of guys like that.
Two, they do OK (maybe really well) for a while, but then they collapse or their admin gets tired of them and they are fired. Joe Tiller, Paul Johnson, Mark D'Antonio, Bo Pellini, Ron Zook, are all examples of a guy like this.
Three, they never get it off the ground and are fired quickly. Bunch of guys like that.
Ha, just Saw a fb ad from a local car dealer...
Washington is our 2nd best recruit to me behind Edwards.
you might like this very long article from MGoBlog
The dumb metaphor I just came up with us that you're firing a shotgun at a target
Yes. Itís you want as many close shots as possible.
Yikes. Heís alright, but he doesnít jump off the screen.
given the lankiness, the comp is Walt Aiken
He has some pretty good offers. His highlight reel is poorly done
*waiting patiently for UofIL6 to tell us why we shouldn't be OK with this....*
I like him alot*
I wonder if he tested really well after his sophomore season at camps and such because his junior
Very skeptical he has a committable Oregon offer... but...
Rivals also lists Kentucky and Purdue, FWIW. Solid offer list, I'll take it*
Hudson is building this class*
Nice. Good pick up at S. Great size and speed.*
link to his 247 page
Aaron Gonzalez says more are coming in Will Smith GIF form
I always think about the Denver Broncos WR, one of my first FF hits
ESL QB Tyler Macon invited to Elite 11 finals. We didn't want him or want to deal with his school*
Sounds like another one*
second columns alarm has been sounded*
It was indeed Lockley.
His QB looked terrible *
Totally disagree with the take he's a potential slot. I would never even line him up there in...
Weíll get some recruiting mojo just in time for the season to be cancelled.*
take that MAC schools!!
That seems...unlikely. *
Which is more unlikely...recruiting mojo or a canceled season?*
The mojo. Fo sho. *
probably this kid
Yes it was *
We are seeing the recruiting upside from the bowl game*
I'm sure, like the remainder of the class, he is highly underrated*
Our staff must be amazing teachers.
And several other coaches with gifts as well. With #tooill as the hashtag*