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Princess Victor Napoleon born Princesse Clementine de Belgique jewels
Posted by Maria Olivia on April 12, 2019, 7:21 pm
King Leopold II and Queen marie Henriette had 4 Children. Their only Son who should have been King Leopold III died when he was 1O years old. SO the third King was Count Philippe of Flandres Son Albert I (nephew of Leopold II). His descendence are our Kings nowadays.
Back to King Leopold II and his 3 daughters. To make it short Princess Louise had to sold her jewels,Princesss Stephanie had her jewels stolen.
Back to Princess Clementine. She was in love with Prince Victor Napoléon , Head of the Imperial House. King Leopold II refused this Wedding. She had to wait until her Father passed away (1909) and married the 4/11/2010 Prince Victor , she was 38 years old. They had 2 Children Marie Clothilde and Louis Napoleon. She is the only one daughter of Leopold II who kept her jewels.
Back to prince Louis Napoleon a very handsome man who married Alix de Foresta (still alive). They attended a lot of glittering events and the Princess was seen with a small tiara and a huge necklace.( I suppose from Princess Clementine)
Back to their Children , Charles their eldest Son married princess Beatrice de Bourbon Siciles (sister of the Duke of Castro) in 1978 civily. They divorced in 1989. They had 2 Children Caroline and Jean Christophe.
When Prince Louis Napoléon died by testament he desherited prince Charles and Prince Jean Christophe was the Head of the Imperial House.
Back to Jean Chistophe engaged to Countess Olympia Arco Z. and the soi disant 40 carats Eugenie Ring. To me Countess Olympia engagement Ring of ? carats belonged to Princess Clementine and/or Princess Alix .
That the diamond comes from the Belgian Royal Family is of course a possibility also that should be considered.
Secondly: sorry for "hijacking" your post like this, but as you mentioned Princess Louise I thought I would post a link to a photo which I just discovered today. Maybe it is already known by most, but it was new to me. It is a photo of some of the jewels that Princess Louise inherited from Queen Marie Henriette and which she had to sell
The text says that the tiara was a gift to the Queen from the citizens of Brussels.
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King Leopold II and Queen marie Henriette had 4 Children. Their only Son who should have been King Leopold III died when he was 1O years old. SO the third King was Count Philippe of Flandres Son Albert I (nephew of Leopold II). His descendence are our Kings nowadays.
Back to King Leopold II and his 3 daughters. To make it short Princess Louise had to sold her jewels,Princesss Stephanie had her jewels stolen.
Back to Princess Clementine. She was in love with Prince Victor Napoléon , Head of the Imperial House. King Leopold II refused this Wedding. She had to wait until her Father passed away (1909) and married the 4/11/2010 Prince Victor , she was 38 years old. They had 2 Children Marie Clothilde and Louis Napoleon. She is the only one daughter of Leopold II who kept her jewels.
Back to prince Louis Napoleon a very handsome man who married Alix de Foresta (still alive). They attended a lot of glittering events and the Princess was seen with a small tiara and a huge necklace.( I suppose from Princess Clementine)
Back to their Children , Charles their eldest Son married princess Beatrice de Bourbon Siciles (sister of the Duke of Castro) in 1978 civily. They divorced in 1989. They had 2 Children Caroline and Jean Christophe.
When Prince Louis Napoléon died by testament he desherited prince Charles and Prince Jean Christophe was the Head of the Imperial House.
Back to Jean Chistophe engaged to Countess Olympia Arco Z. and the soi disant 40 carats Eugenie Ring. To me Countess Olympia engagement Ring of ? carats belonged to Princess Clementine and/or Princess Alix .
The necklace of coloured stones looks very similar to the sapphire necklace that George VI bought for the Queen.
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First of all: welcome to the board!
That the diamond comes from the Belgian Royal Family is of course a possibility also that should be considered.
Secondly: sorry for "hijacking" your post like this, but as you mentioned Princess Louise I thought I would post a link to a photo which I just discovered today. Maybe it is already known by most, but it was new to me. It is a photo of some of the jewels that Princess Louise inherited from Queen Marie Henriette and which she had to sell
The text says that the tiara was a gift to the Queen from the citizens of Brussels.
Previous Message
King Leopold II and Queen marie Henriette had 4 Children. Their only Son who should have been King Leopold III died when he was 1O years old. SO the third King was Count Philippe of Flandres Son Albert I (nephew of Leopold II). His descendence are our Kings nowadays.
Back to King Leopold II and his 3 daughters. To make it short Princess Louise had to sold her jewels,Princesss Stephanie had her jewels stolen.
Back to Princess Clementine. She was in love with Prince Victor Napoléon , Head of the Imperial House. King Leopold II refused this Wedding. She had to wait until her Father passed away (1909) and married the 4/11/2010 Prince Victor , she was 38 years old. They had 2 Children Marie Clothilde and Louis Napoleon. She is the only one daughter of Leopold II who kept her jewels.
Back to prince Louis Napoleon a very handsome man who married Alix de Foresta (still alive). They attended a lot of glittering events and the Princess was seen with a small tiara and a huge necklace.( I suppose from Princess Clementine)
Back to their Children , Charles their eldest Son married princess Beatrice de Bourbon Siciles (sister of the Duke of Castro) in 1978 civily. They divorced in 1989. They had 2 Children Caroline and Jean Christophe.
When Prince Louis Napoléon died by testament he desherited prince Charles and Prince Jean Christophe was the Head of the Imperial House.
Back to Jean Chistophe engaged to Countess Olympia Arco Z. and the soi disant 40 carats Eugenie Ring. To me Countess Olympia engagement Ring of ? carats belonged to Princess Clementine and/or Princess Alix .
Re: Princess Victor Napoleon born Princesse Clementine de Belgique jewels
Thanks Kongetro for your welcome. I focused about Princess Clementine jewels as we know what happen with Princess Louise jewels. Olympia engagement Ring may also be a present of prince Victor to Princess Clementine.
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King Leopold II and Queen marie Henriette had 4 Children. Their only Son who should have been King Leopold III died when he was 1O years old. SO the third King was Count Philippe of Flandres Son Albert I (nephew of Leopold II). His descendence are our Kings nowadays.
Back to King Leopold II and his 3 daughters. To make it short Princess Louise had to sold her jewels,Princesss Stephanie had her jewels stolen.
Back to Princess Clementine. She was in love with Prince Victor Napoléon , Head of the Imperial House. King Leopold II refused this Wedding. She had to wait until her Father passed away (1909) and married the 4/11/2010 Prince Victor , she was 38 years old. They had 2 Children Marie Clothilde and Louis Napoleon. She is the only one daughter of Leopold II who kept her jewels.
Back to prince Louis Napoleon a very handsome man who married Alix de Foresta (still alive). They attended a lot of glittering events and the Princess was seen with a small tiara and a huge necklace.( I suppose from Princess Clementine)
Back to their Children , Charles their eldest Son married princess Beatrice de Bourbon Siciles (sister of the Duke of Castro) in 1978 civily. They divorced in 1989. They had 2 Children Caroline and Jean Christophe.
When Prince Louis Napoléon died by testament he desherited prince Charles and Prince Jean Christophe was the Head of the Imperial House.
Back to Jean Chistophe engaged to Countess Olympia Arco Z. and the soi disant 40 carats Eugenie Ring. To me Countess Olympia engagement Ring of ? carats belonged to Princess Clementine and/or Princess Alix .
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Welcome aboard Maria Olivia. Very nice of you to join us and your topics are again research rooted.
Regards,
Dave.
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King Leopold II and Queen marie Henriette had 4 Children. Their only Son who should have been King Leopold III died when he was 1O years old. SO the third King was Count Philippe of Flandres Son Albert I (nephew of Leopold II). His descendence are our Kings nowadays.
Back to King Leopold II and his 3 daughters. To make it short Princess Louise had to sold her jewels,Princesss Stephanie had her jewels stolen.
Back to Princess Clementine. She was in love with Prince Victor Napoléon , Head of the Imperial House. King Leopold II refused this Wedding. She had to wait until her Father passed away (1909) and married the 4/11/2010 Prince Victor , she was 38 years old. They had 2 Children Marie Clothilde and Louis Napoleon. She is the only one daughter of Leopold II who kept her jewels.
Back to prince Louis Napoleon a very handsome man who married Alix de Foresta (still alive). They attended a lot of glittering events and the Princess was seen with a small tiara and a huge necklace.( I suppose from Princess Clementine)
Back to their Children , Charles their eldest Son married princess Beatrice de Bourbon Siciles (sister of the Duke of Castro) in 1978 civily. They divorced in 1989. They had 2 Children Caroline and Jean Christophe.
When Prince Louis Napoléon died by testament he desherited prince Charles and Prince Jean Christophe was the Head of the Imperial House.
Back to Jean Chistophe engaged to Countess Olympia Arco Z. and the soi disant 40 carats Eugenie Ring. To me Countess Olympia engagement Ring of ? carats belonged to Princess Clementine and/or Princess Alix .
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Welcome aboard Maria Olivia. Going back to your post : one should not forget that there were other princesses in the imperial family which could have brought jewels when they married. The Napoleon family, through empress Eugénie, did receive a few pieces of the collection of Queen Hortense, like the pair of gold bracelets the princess is wearing on the picture you posted. There might be other pieces. One should also bear in mind that princess Catherine of Wurtemberg, the wife of the first prince Jerome Napoleon, brother of the emperor, had a large collection of jewels. Her daughter princess Mathilde inherited from her the large 7 strands pearl necklace which was sold after her death. The second prince Jerome, direct ancestor of the current prince Napoléon also inherited a few pieces from his mother’s collection. His wife, princess Clotilde of Savoia also received a lot of jewelry when she married and she left most of these to her children : Leticia, Louis, and Victor. Victor was princess Clementinés husband. Their son, Louis was the late prince Napoléon. The same Prince Louis Napoleon was also the heir of his uncle, also called Louis. Actually it is through Prince Louis , the older, that the imperial family did receive the domain of Prangins in Switzerland which they still own. Last but not least, victor and Louis , the older, were the heirs of their aunt, princess Mathilde. I know that the main part of her jewelry collection was sold after her death in 1904, but she made very important gifts to her nephews and niece when she was stil alive. There are plainty of possibilities for the origin of the diamond on that ring. About the business of the ring, I received a few messages of persons asking me how I knew that the diamond was not 40 carats and had never belonged to empress Eugénie. I simply cannot answer to that question. But I can only say that I thought the whole story was strange when I heard it. The origin of the story on the net and in the written press was, as it is so often the case, anonymous, which is never a good sign of truth. The details I wrote about that ring, I wrote under my own name, knowing perfectly what my responsibility as a journalist, is. I cannot give my source, but anyone who knows me a little, will easily understand that I would not have written. Them If I had not been sure of them.
How kind of you Vincent to share your great knowledge about jewels of the various Royals and here from the Napoleon Family. This is absolutely new to me and I think for others. I am looking forward the details you wrote about the Ring knowing you have private sources due to your work as jewels specialist since years and thank you for your kindness and your respect for the Profession. MO
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Welcome aboard Maria Olivia. Going back to your post : one should not forget that there were other princesses in the imperial family which could have brought jewels when they married. The Napoleon family, through empress Eugénie, did receive a few pieces of the collection of Queen Hortense, like the pair of gold bracelets the princess is wearing on the picture you posted. There might be other pieces. One should also bear in mind that princess Catherine of Wurtemberg, the wife of the first prince Jerome Napoleon, brother of the emperor, had a large collection of jewels. Her daughter princess Mathilde inherited from her the large 7 strands pearl necklace which was sold after her death. The second prince Jerome, direct ancestor of the current prince Napoléon also inherited a few pieces from his mother’s collection. His wife, princess Clotilde of Savoia also received a lot of jewelry when she married and she left most of these to her children : Leticia, Louis, and Victor. Victor was princess Clementinés husband. Their son, Louis was the late prince Napoléon. The same Prince Louis Napoleon was also the heir of his uncle, also called Louis. Actually it is through Prince Louis , the older, that the imperial family did receive the domain of Prangins in Switzerland which they still own. Last but not least, victor and Louis , the older, were the heirs of their aunt, princess Mathilde. I know that the main part of her jewelry collection was sold after her death in 1904, but she made very important gifts to her nephews and niece when she was stil alive. There are plainty of possibilities for the origin of the diamond on that ring. About the business of the ring, I received a few messages of persons asking me how I knew that the diamond was not 40 carats and had never belonged to empress Eugénie. I simply cannot answer to that question. But I can only say that I thought the whole story was strange when I heard it. The origin of the story on the net and in the written press was, as it is so often the case, anonymous, which is never a good sign of truth. The details I wrote about that ring, I wrote under my own name, knowing perfectly what my responsibility as a journalist, is. I cannot give my source, but anyone who knows me a little, will easily understand that I would not have written. Them If I had not been sure of them.
on April 12, 2019, 7:21 pm
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