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Panel about Diamond Collet Necklaces Posted by Franck on December 3, 2021, 11:47 pm Dear all, a first panel made (and to add to your site if you want dear Beth) partage photo en ligne gratuit illimité 1. the Duchess of York's collet necklace . The diamonds are not graduated compared to Queen Alexandra's necklace. . worn once with a diamond pendant. 2.The Duchess of Teck's Collet Necklace . The necklace, though it has varied in length over time, is a longer form and currently includes 46 brilliant diamonds. . It is the longer necklace on Queen Mary and maybe on Queen Elisabeth The Queen Mother . certainly worn above Queen Elisabeth's coronation necklace by Queen Elizabeth - Length reduced) . Maybe worn by QE for her own coronation in 1938 . larger diamonds ; not worn currently ; 3. Queen Elisabeth's Coronation Necklace . It is the longer necklace on Queen Elisabeth the Queen Mother - Very large diamonds and has a bigger length .currently worn by the Duchess of Cornwall 4. A long diamond sautoir worn by Queen Elisabeth as Duchess of York press articles from Beth and Franck and photos from Beth ; Not currently worn 5. Smaller Collet Necklace . worn by QEII in 2012 and as Princess Elisabeth in Scotland in 1951 and in Malta ; alos worn by Princess Margaret - lent by her sister ; maybe from her mother and lent by Queen Elisabeth at her own coronation in 1938 to Lady Mary Elphinstone née Bowes-Lyon; 6. Queen Alexandra's Collet Necklace . The central stone weights more than 13 carats (Press article from Beth). . The diamonds are bigger than n°1. . (large diamonds and worn by QEII) ; 7.The Lady Mount Stephen's diamond necklace with a square central stone . Longer, Graduated Collet Necklace . worn by QEII . Press articles from Beth 8. Shorter, Graduated Collet Necklace . the necklace has been worn once by the Duchess of Cambridge . no information about the origin of the necklace Franck

Re: Panel about Diamond Collet Necklaces Posted by RDavid on December 3, 2021, 11:57 pm, in reply to "Panel about Diamond Collet Necklaces" Great work! Congratulations Previous Message Dear all, a first panel made (and to add to your site if you want dear Beth) partage photo en ligne gratuit illimité 1. the Duchess of York's collet necklace . The diamonds are not graduated compared to Queen Alexandra's necklace. 2.The Duchess of Teck's Collet Necklace . The necklace, though it has varied in length over time, is a longer form and currently includes 46 brilliant diamonds. . It is the longer necklace on Queen Mary and maybe on Queen Elisabeth The Queen Mother . certainly worn above Queen Elisabeth's coronation necklace by Queen Elizabeth - Length reduced) . larger diamonds ; not worn currently ; 3. Queen Elisabeth's Coronation Necklace . It is the longer necklace on Queen Elisabeth the Queen Mother - Very large diamonds and has a bigger length . currently worn by the Duchess of Cornwall 4. A long diamond sautoir worn by Queen Elisabeth as Duchess of York press articles from Beth and Franck and photos from Beth ; Not currently worn 5. Smaller Collet Necklace . worn by QEII in 2012 and as Princess Elisabeth in Scotland in 1951 and in Malta ; alos worn by Princess Margaret - lent by her sister ; maybe from her mother and lent by Queen Elisabeth at her own coronation in 9138 to Lady Mary Elphinstone née Bowes-Lyon; 6. Queen Alexandra's Collet Necklace . The central stone weights more than 13 carats (Press article from Beth). . The diamonds are bigger than n°1. . (large diamonds and worn by QEII) ; 7.The Lady Mount Stephen's diamond necklace with a square central stone . Longer, Graduated Collet Necklace . worn by QEII . Press articles from Beth 8. Shorter, Graduated Collet Necklace . the necklace has been worn once by the Duchess of Cambridge . no information about the origin of the necklace Franck

Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace Posted by PaulP on December 6, 2021, 11:43 pm, in reply to "Panel about Diamond Collet Necklaces" Congratulations on your splendid work Frank. I was searching for more information on the Number 7 - Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace, but couldn't find Beth's press article. Does anyone know the extent of Lady Mount Stephen's bequest to Queen Mary? In link immediately below we are told: "In 1897 Lord Mount Stephen married Gian Tufnell, who had been Lady-in-waiting to Princess Mary Adelaide, Duchess of Teck, the mother of Queen Mary. She was a lifelong friend and confidant of Queen Mary and she and Lord Mount Stephen regularly entertained the Queen at Brocket Hall. She bequeathed her collection of jewels and her diamond tiara to her." https://berryhillsturgeon.com/Archives/Canada/MountStephen/MountStephen.html Another article linked below says of Lady Mount Stephen: "She remained close to the Royal Family and bequeathed many jewels to the Queen and to the Royal Collections on her death." https://www.communitystories.ca/v2/histoire-de-peche_fish-stories/gallery/lady-mount-stephen-with-fishing-guides-douglas-berchervaise-and-lewis-eden/ I wonder how much truth there is in these reports

Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace Posted by Franck on December 7, 2021, 6:16 am, in reply to "Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace" Dear Paulp, Thank you so much for your kind message. Please find below Press articles from Beth concerning Lady Mount Stephen's Bequest to Queen Mary and to the Royal Collection. facebook upload photo without posting Thank you again for your message ! Franck Previous Message Congratulations on your splendid work Frank. I was searching for more information on the Number 7 - Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace, but couldn't find Beth's press article. Does anyone know the extent of Lady Mount Stephen's bequest to Queen Mary? In link immediately below we are told: " In 1897 Lord Mount Stephen married Gian Tufnell, who had been Lady-in-waiting to Princess Mary Adelaide, Duchess of Teck, the mother of Queen Mary. She was a lifelong friend and confidant of Queen Mary and she and Lord Mount Stephen regularly entertained the Queen at Brocket Hall. She bequeathed her collection of jewels and her diamond tiara to her. " https://berryhillsturgeon.com/Archives/Canada/MountStephen/MountStephen.html Another article linked below says of Lady Mount Stephen: " She remained close to the Royal Family and bequeathed many jewels to the Queen and to the Royal Collections on her death. " https://www.communitystories.ca/v2/histoire-de-peche_fish-stories/gallery/lady-mount-stephen-with-fishing-guides-douglas-berchervaise-and-lewis-eden/ I wonder how much truth there is in these reports

Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace Posted by PaulP on December 7, 2021, 1:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace" Thank you very much Frank. I very much appreciate seeing this article with precise details of Lady Mount Stephen's bequests, and am once again impressed with Beth's outstanding research.

Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace Posted by Beth on December 7, 2021, 1:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace" Thanks for posting the media reports Franck! I doubt if the writers of the sites PaulP gave links to have even read the news reports much less looked at the actual will. When I initially posted the news items, I was challenged by the experts for whom knowledge is immutable. As a result, I looked at the will. Queen Mary was definitely left the 2 diamond rivieres. Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone got the diamond brooch. That is all the jewellery given to the royal ladies. Queen Mary was left other items, and it maybe that today some of those items are in the Royal Collection. I have never cross checked. But nothing was left directly to the Royal Collection. Lady Mount Stephen directed that her pearl and diamond tiara was to be sold and the proceeds given to the King Edward Hospital Fund. That is what occurred. Did she have more than one tiara? I don't know. If she did, it would have been inherited by her sister. Apart from named items of jewellery given to named ladies, the residue of the collection went to Lady Mount Stephen's sister. The jewellery collection is not itemised in the will. The other items inherited by Queen Mary included enamel portraits of various earlier Kings and Queens, tortoiseshell boxes, 2 items of French Marqueterie and portraits by Allan Ramsay of George III and Queen Charlotte. These, it was noted, were formerly in Gloucester House. Both of these are in the Royal Collection. Queen Charlotte https://www.rct.uk/collection/402413/queen-charlotte-1744-1818 George III https://www.rct.uk/collection/402412/george-iii

2.The Duchess of Teck's Collet Necklace - mystery maybe solved Posted by Franck on December 7, 2021, 9:22 pm, in reply to "Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace" I think that I have understood the mystery about the length of the Duchess of Teck's collect necklace worn by QE. I have read once again the QD. Hugh Roberts gives us the solution (p.126). Please find below the analysis : 1. In 1938 : QE (at her own coronation) wore the long version of the necklace (46 collets) ; 2. In 1953 : QEQM wore the short version (36 collet - as shown in the QD's book). The short version was worn above her own necklace. dear Beth, Can you add this information to your site. Franck Previous Message Thanks for posting the media reports Franck! I doubt if the writers of the sites PaulP gave links to have even read the news reports much less looked at the actual will. When I initially posted the news items, I was challenged by the experts for whom knowledge is immutable. As a result, I looked at the will. Queen Mary was definitely left the 2 diamond rivieres. Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone got the diamond brooch. That is all the jewellery given to the royal ladies. Queen Mary was left other items, and it maybe that today some of those items are in the Royal Collection. I have never cross checked. But nothing was left directly to the Royal Collection. Lady Mount Stephen directed that her pearl and diamond tiara was to be sold and the proceeds given to the King Edward Hospital Fund. That is what occurred. Did she have more than one tiara? I don't know. If she did, it would have been inherited by her sister. Apart from named items of jewellery given to named ladies, the residue of the collection went to Lady Mount Stephen's sister. The jewellery collection is not itemised in the will. The other items inherited by Queen Mary included enamel portraits of various earlier Kings and Queens, tortoiseshell boxes, 2 items of French Marqueterie and portraits by Allan Ramsay of George III and Queen Charlotte. These, it was noted, were formerly in Gloucester House. Both of these are in the Royal Collection. Queen Charlotte https://www.rct.uk/collection/402413/queen-charlotte-1744-1818 George III https://www.rct.uk/collection/402412/george-iii

Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace Posted by PaulP on December 8, 2021, 4:39 am, in reply to "Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace" Thanks again Beth. Your research has cleared up a subject which had long been a puzzle to me. Further validation of the information in your news article can be seen with its listed "Queen Caroline wife of George II, in a gold frame" portrait bequest displayed on the Royal Collection website. https://www.rct.uk/collection/search#/66/collection/421942/caroline-of-ansbach-1683-1737

Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace Posted by Beth on December 8, 2021, 7:31 am, in reply to "Re: Lady Mount Stephen diamond necklace" As far as I can see the enamel portrait of Queen Caroline, which PaulP gave us the link to, is the only item listed on the Royal Collection site, which may have been part of Lady Mount Stephen's bequest. Here is the list of the miniatures from Lady Mount Stephen's will. 1 Enamel portrait of Queen Anne in a gold locket frame. 2. Enamel portrait of Charles I by C Boit in ivory and black frame. 3. Enamel portrait of Prince George of Denmark by C boit. 4. Enamel portrait of Queen Caroline, wife of George II in a gold frame. 5. Miniature in oil of King Charles II in a silver frame. In 1933 when Lady Mount Stephen's will was referred to in the newspapers, reporters used to attend the court, and reports were usually accurate. A will, as held by the government, needs no validation from any other source. It is a primary source legal document.

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