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Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding Posted by Bryce on March 18, 2022, 12:14 pm Does anyone know what brooch Queen Mary is wearing at her waist at the wedding of her daughter Mary, The Princess Royal. Here is a link to the National Portrait Gallery photo https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw166721/Queen-Mary?search=sp&sText=Queen&displayStyle=thumb&displayNo=40&wPage=38&rNo=1523

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. Edited for a photo of Queen Alexandra Posted by Beth on March 18, 2022, 2:02 pm, in reply to "Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding" Wonderful find Bryce!! How on earth have we all missed that? My immediate thought is -- Is it possible that the outer setting of diamonds on the central portion of the cockade brooch is removable? I have to be out for a couple of hours, but I will keep thinking. Addition: If we look at the central portion of the brooch as worn by Queen Alexandra, I think that, if the spiky outer section could be removed, what is left might look like what Queen Mary wore. Apologies I do not have time to enlarge both photos and do a comparison.

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. Posted by Beth on March 18, 2022, 7:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. Edited for a photo of Queen Alexandra" I am still feeling very excited by Bryce's find. It is amazing! I looked for modern photos of QEII wearing the central portion of the cockade, but they are of little use as too much light is being reflected to see what the inner section looks like. The more I look at the photos of Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra the more convinced I am that Queen Mary was wearing the inner section of the central element of the cockade brooch. For that to be so however the outer section needs to be detachable. I cannot see why it couldn't be. We know that Queen Alexandra had changes made and, if the outer round elements and the spikes were a detachable frame it would make the jewel more versatile. A not very good comparison. Apologies but I had a busy day and have not had time to try to resize images

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. Posted by Bryce on March 19, 2022, 5:14 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. " Another thought.... Could it possibly be the large jewel hanging as a pendant on Queen Alexandra's necklace - the one to which she has attached the Lahore Diamond and the Coronation Earrings?

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. Edited for a photo of Queen Alexandra Posted by bryce on March 19, 2022, 5:09 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. Edited for a photo of Queen Alexandra" Interesting idea Beth. Although we have never seen the central portion on it own before or since??? But QM was always very creative with her jewels. I look at the close-up and at the pattern of her dress....and I wonder if the central portion of the brooch is not a (Tudor) Rose??

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. Edited for a photo of Queen Alexandra Posted by Beth on March 20, 2022, 1:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding. Edited for a photo of Queen Alexandra" You are spot on Bryce. I have dress descriptions which I will post later. I am still trying to find a mention of her jewels. I will do a post on all the aspects when I find enough. Apparently Queen Mary had the fabric for her dress specially woven in Yorkshire for this wedding.

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding Posted by Dave on March 19, 2022, 1:35 am, in reply to "Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding" A wonderful find Bryce, as Beth states idk how we all missed it. The cockade brooch is an intriguing piece, the diamonds seem to be very large and rounded. I believe this brooch originated with King George 3rd. I think Beth's analogy of the peice is right though. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Does anyone know what brooch Queen Mary is wearing at her waist at the wedding of her daughter Mary, The Princess Royal. Here is a link to the National Portrait Gallery photo https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw166721/Queen-Mary?search=sp&sText=Queen&displayStyle=thumb&displayNo=40&wPage=38&rNo=1523

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding - her hat too Posted by Bryce on March 19, 2022, 5:04 am, in reply to "Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding" I think there is something in her hat too ! Maybe the double loop diamond brooch

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding - her hat too Posted by Franck on March 19, 2022, 6:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding - her hat too" Congratulations !!! Franck Previous Message I think there is something in her hat too ! Maybe the double loop diamond brooch

Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding - her hat too Posted by Beth on March 20, 2022, 1:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary - Lascelles Wedding - her hat too" I agree Bryce. It is not as clear in most other photos, hence why I don't think anyone has identified it previously. Another set of congratulations are in order. Congratulations!! Previous Message I think there is something in her hat too ! Maybe the double loop diamond brooch

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