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Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang Posted by The Royal Watcher on October 27, 2024, 11:01 am This week, I am in the Sultanate of Pahang to celebrate the Wedding of Prince Muhammad of Pahang, Tengku Arif Bendahara, the son of the Sultan of Pahang and Tengku Ampuan (Queen) Azizah, and have a very exciting discovery to share with you! Queen Azizah of Pahang and I have come upon the conclusion that her Diamond Bandeau Tiara is Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau last worn by Princess Margaret. Her Majesty graciously invited me to the Palace to view the Tiara (and five others) and we both compared it and could find no differences. Queen Azizah bought this Diamond Bandeau Tiara on the advice of Princess Chulabhorn of Thailand in New York. Like Queen Mary’s Amethyst Tiara, the Diamond Lozenge Bandeau must have been discreetly sold off by Princess Margaret by the 1980s. In our excitement, the Tiara did drop and get slightly damaged but will soon be repaired.

Re: Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang Posted by Dave on October 27, 2024, 2:57 pm, in reply to "Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang" Wowwwww, just fascinating' but we do know that replicas of certain tiaras has been made' the major one that was worn by the late Diana PoW and now dawned by her Daughter in law has about 5 other copies. But if this is the same tiara worn by Princess Margaret' then it's possible she was gifted or inherited jewels from her grandmother Queen Mary outright. Maybe the late Queen refused to bail out her sister or her sister was too proud to ask for help. But seeing this tiara, it is substantially grand and not just a bandeau, it's beautiful and not that small as would come over in the black and white picture, I'm surprised this was allowed to leave the main line of the RF. Regards, Dave. Previous Message This week, I am in the Sultanate of Pahang to celebrate the Wedding of Prince Muhammad of Pahang, Tengku Arif Bendahara , the son of the  Sultan of Pahang  and  Tengku Ampuan (Queen) Azizah , and have a very exciting discovery to share with you! Queen Azizah of Pahang and I have come upon the conclusion that her Diamond Bandeau Tiara is Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau last worn by Princess Margaret. Her Majesty graciously invited me to the Palace to view the Tiara (and five others) and we both compared it and could find no differences. Queen Azizah bought this Diamond Bandeau Tiara on the advice of Princess Chulabhorn of Thailand in New York. Like Queen Mary’s Amethyst Tiara , the Diamond Lozenge Bandeau must have been discreetly sold off by Princess Margaret by the 1980s. In our excitement, the Tiara did drop and get slightly damaged but will soon be repaired.

Re: Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang Posted by Stefan on October 27, 2024, 6:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang" Actually the other Lovers Knot tiaras were made earlier then the british one. The bavarian one and the original Cambridge Lovers Knot tiara date from the early 19th century. so it rather that the one now in the british RF is a Copy Previous Message Wowwwww, just fascinating' but we do know that replicas of certain tiaras has been made' the major one that was worn by the late Diana PoW and now dawned by her Daughter in law has about 5 other copies. But if this is the same tiara worn by Princess Margaret' then it's possible she was gifted or inherited jewels from her grandmother Queen Mary outright. Maybe the late Queen refused to bail out her sister or her sister was too proud to ask for help. But seeing this tiara, it is substantially grand and not just a bandeau, it's beautiful and not that small as would come over in the back and white picture, I'm surprised this was allowed to leave the main line of the RF. Regards, Dave. Previous Message This week, I am in the Sultanate of Pahang to celebrate the Wedding of Prince Muhammad of Pahang, Tengku Arif Bendahara , the son of the  Sultan of Pahang  and  Tengku Ampuan (Queen) Azizah , and have a very exciting discovery to share with you! Queen Azizah of Pahang and I have come upon the conclusion that her Diamond Bandeau Tiara is Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau last worn by Princess Margaret. Her Majesty graciously invited me to the Palace to view the Tiara (and five others) and we both compared it and could find no differences. Queen Azizah bought this Diamond Bandeau Tiara on the advice of Princess Chulabhorn of Thailand in New York. Like Queen Mary’s Amethyst Tiara , the Diamond Lozenge Bandeau must have been discreetly sold off by Princess Margaret by the 1980s. In our excitement, the Tiara did drop and get slightly damaged but will soon be repaired.

Re: Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang Posted by Dave on October 29, 2024, 2:49 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang" Yes you are correct Stefan the British Royal family lovers knot tiara is a copy made from the original one and they do exist 5 or so copies. This post again exposes how much little we really know of what exist in those Windsor vaults or what may have passed from them. When the Sussexs got engaged, I can recall the Duchess saying what a special day it was when they both went down to the palace to choose her wedding headgear. Some reports said they were 5/6 tiaras the Queen had picked out for her to choose from. My feeling is that they were more than likely not connected to any other female members. The Duchess of Cambridge as she was previously never discussed the options laid out to her. My feeling is that these showings are made up of different tiaras so as to prevent a clash in wearers, Eugenie proved that. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Actually the other Lovers Knot tiaras were made earlier then the british one. The bavarian one and the original Cambridge Lovers Knot tiara date from the early 19th century. so it rather that the one now in the british RF is a Copy Previous Message Wowwwww, just fascinating' but we do know that replicas of certain tiaras has been made' the major one that was worn by the late Diana PoW and now dawned by her Daughter in law has about 5 other copies. But if this is the same tiara worn by Princess Margaret' then it's possible she was gifted or inherited jewels from her grandmother Queen Mary outright. Maybe the late Queen refused to bail out her sister or her sister was too proud to ask for help. But seeing this tiara, it is substantially grand and not just a bandeau, it's beautiful and not that small as would come over in the back and white picture, I'm surprised this was allowed to leave the main line of the RF. Regards, Dave. Previous Message This week, I am in the Sultanate of Pahang to celebrate the Wedding of Prince Muhammad of Pahang, Tengku Arif Bendahara , the son of the  Sultan of Pahang  and  Tengku Ampuan (Queen) Azizah , and have a very exciting discovery to share with you! Queen Azizah of Pahang and I have come upon the conclusion that her Diamond Bandeau Tiara is Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau last worn by Princess Margaret. Her Majesty graciously invited me to the Palace to view the Tiara (and five others) and we both compared it and could find no differences. Queen Azizah bought this Diamond Bandeau Tiara on the advice of Princess Chulabhorn of Thailand in New York. Like Queen Mary’s Amethyst Tiara , the Diamond Lozenge Bandeau must have been discreetly sold off by Princess Margaret by the 1980s. In our excitement, the Tiara did drop and get slightly damaged but will soon be repaired.

Re: Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang Posted by Txrus on October 28, 2024, 12:33 am, in reply to "Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang" Amazing find & thank you for sharing. Hopefully you will be sharing pictures of the other 5 tiara's, as well? Interesting that they didn't change out the velvet wrap on the base to something darker to better match the bride's hair, though.

Re: Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang Posted by Janet on October 29, 2024, 6:13 am, in reply to "Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang" Thank you for sharing this information, it really is very fascinating. The Malaysian royals, especially the Pahang family really do have a collection of jewels that compete if not surpass that of many European royal houses. Without wishing to pry to much, do you know if the jewels are owned personally by Queen Azizah or within some form of structure to maintain them through the generations? I know Queen Azizah's step mother-in-law has a truly fantastic collection but it isnt clear if those are her personal jewels or if they are treated as dynastic and will pass to future Pahang Queens. It would be a great shame if they are lost to the future.

Queen of Pahang Tiaras Posted by The Royal Watcher on October 30, 2024, 6:08 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Mary's lost Diamond Lozenge Bandeau is with the Queen of Pahang" The jewels are all personally owned by Queen Azizah, and with the exception of the inherited Pahang State Tiara, have been acquired by her. There are around 10 tiaras from different periods, including at least three created this year, and the Queen has said that all of them will be inherited by the Crown Prince, but can be loaned out like she has done to distant cousins and friends. She has given other gifts of jewellery to her daughters and daughters-in-law, but they would only wear Tiaras at their weddings and possibly the Coronation of an immediate relative, so they have no need of their own Tiaras. The Beauchamp Pearl and Diamond Tiara and her Diamond Tiara are the former Sultanah’s personal property, and like her other jewels, will be inherited by her only son.

Re: Queen of Pahang Tiaras Posted by Janet on October 31, 2024, 1:37 pm, in reply to " Queen of Pahang Tiaras" Thank you for the fascinating personal insight. I adore Her Majesty's approach and fully endorse it as I believe these jewels should be maintained for the next generation of sovereigns. . What a physical legacy Her Majesty will leave to her descendants. Its hard to think of any individual in the current timeframe who has contributed more to the majesty of monarchy in jewellery terms than Queen Azizah. She truly is the Malaysian Queen Mary in jewellery terms How fitting she would now own one of her tiaras. HRH Sultanah Kalmsom's collection is truly quite lovely and seems so carefully collated, she too seems a pick of good jewels. Her son is very handsome and I hope he makes a good marriage and his bride and heirs wear those lovely jewels for decades to come, preferably at public events so we can selfishly enjoy. Thank you again. And please never stop sharing. I really have fallen in love with the Malaysian monarchies in the past 5 years and frankly they are the only royal house who offer any surprises anymore, unless Queen Camilla pulls something out of the seemingly never ending Greville box of jewels.

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