Cryonics-Lifex-Techno-visionary Doug Platt in Arizona?... likely Alcor related. I got the idea of telepresence from him-- in 1985. It turns out that my own extrapolation of that, an act of my own genius in and of itself, quite independent from DPlatt because I extended to the quantum dimension in a way that Platt did NOT do.... is the VERY BASIS for the obscelence of cryonics and "monism" as opposed to "dualism". Very interesting how that evolved. The evolution of my own ideas that pertain to humanity and the universe that over-ride and are better than most others continues to fascinate me. I DO owe Doug Platt this much however:... the idea of zeroing in on TELEPRESENCE as a thing. My unique addition to that idea is the personal OOBE encounters using that idea... as well the PROJECTION of that idea via "quantum doug" Matzke and Edward W Russell, reinforced by Ettinger in Chapter 4 of MIS... to create what is known today (in my mind) as Quantumonics... the ULTIMATE survival solution.