I think there's more to it than being a shame... it's an entire pathological mental disease / crime... Texas Cryo pointed, for example, to member-churning in one of my forums now archived on tapatalk or blogger. Right there, we have a type of gray area fraud because one thing for sure that a legit op would do is work to retain members in this cryonic bizines. The fact that they're not concerned is a flashing idiot light on the dashboard of the cognitively living mind that reasons and has ethical scope. But no. Nobody cares that members are churned like butter and dumped, disposed of and let alone to die diseased, disowned, disavowed, and dead buried. So what IS the cryonics business then? The reality is in the results: a removal of money from the economy at large, as well as the economy of cryonics, into secret disavowed NDA covered black holes called dead hand trusts or perpetual trusts. Cryonics itself has died and the few remaining ops are but a "facade" that hide the true depth of the financial black hole being covered up, disavowed, and hidden to the point where exposees like mine are totally blackholed on the internets with vicious attacks on the authors of such accounts as I have been subjected to in the past having dropped to zero. At least with attacks, I knew I was over a target but now even that has ceased to exist. Instead, the real cryonics insiders have roped off their internet forums and discussions for themselves into their clubby digital hideaways, burying cryonics itself like a digital corpse with no life above ground. Life extension as well, as a concept, has gone a similar route IMO.