Mark PLUS has the untold backstory on this VV disaster. ... mostly likely but I can't see reddit right now... later maybe.
Dave Pizer actually threatend to make me get out of his vehicle one time if I kept talkinga bout Lraouche on the way to Mayer. Can you believe this? I still can't believe it. Dave was never an "academic" even though he took academic "courses" later in life.
I had to simply shut up and stop talking. DAve might have had issues beyond my comprehension.
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